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Did a runner on a hissy fit. Bless.
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Report northanlite May 27, 2019 2:43 PM BST
I wasn't drawing any such equivalence. It suits you to make people one homogeneous group rather than
the reality of a heterogeneous group. Simple minded thinking for simple minded people.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 2:45 PM BST
34,000 terrorist atrocities since 9/11

Do people on here really support stuff like that?
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 2:47 PM BST
Muslim Defence League , Their actions do appear Defensive to me , They were in Full attack mode Shocked

The Likes of Study and the Team will wake up One day Grin
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 2:47 PM BST
DO NOT
Report lux May 27, 2019 2:49 PM BST
I'll say it again. Islam is an ideology, Muslims are people. As such I recognise they come in a variety of different stripes. Merely highlighting the problem posed by the navigation of Islamic texts.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 3:50 PM BST
No. They don't and they never have.

Glad you're in a position to speak up for them.

Are you familiar with many?
Report lux May 27, 2019 3:53 PM BST
Study

Do you think that demographic change and the attitudes of British Muslims are cause for concern?
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 4:34 PM BST
"basic hate-speak all over this forum"

Not sure we are Talking HATE Study  ,a lot is truth Shocked

Hundreds have Lost their Lives  Across the Country in the name of ISLAM 

Teams of Rapists have been Operating nationwide Unhindered for Years

Its a Shame the Community have not come out demonstrating against the Above as they have against the Teachings of Gay Sex .

I would say what is written above is Truth , and The Only hate involved is among the said Community...
Report mouse muldoon May 27, 2019 4:40 PM BST
13:27 gone, wd Coxy.
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 4:41 PM BST
As pointed out  -  My earlier post deleted.

Crippen. You never give up do you?
Pitiful.

Lux. As full an answer as I can provide, and which I hope will explain my views. You might want to read it fairly quickly, my posts tend to be removed quite often.
Not that they are remotely important.

Demographic change worldwide has always been a concern for the people who consider their land is being "invaded".

When however, it hasn't been invaded (see 1930's Germany) and the "Invasion" scare is propagated by would-be politicians and people online (a new bad medium for such problems), who make "concerns", I fear for society. Not for the issues caused by demographic change - which may not be actual change, but awareness of differences - but for the issues caused by "soldiers" who given the opportunity will do exactly the things that people are worried about the perceived enemy doing.

Causing division - which incidentally positive discrimination does as well, is not a cure for anything.

The divisive nature of this forum is indicative of quite a bit of society as a whole. It always happens when people are suffering or skint, or in some other form of depressed situation. They're looking for blame and some chancers are providing them with it.

Whether the users of this forum or any other daily mail/LBC like it or not, if people had some spare cash and a bit more spare time, they'd be less angry and would care a lot less about politics and we'd have a better state of happiness.

The biggest problem is 40 years of bad government, huge disparity of rich and poor and depleted infrastructure.

The blame doesn't lie with muslims, or benefit scroungers, or whatever the next thing the media and government try to blame it on.
Politicians are having a subsidised drink and a cigarette in the house of commons (the law doesn't apply there) bars and raking it in while watching the population arguing about immigrants, Brexit, Trump or anything else journalists are living off, while we all argue, fight and keep them in power.

To summarise, the demographic change is not as great as you would be made to believe. No-one likes change. The loss of 60% of hospital beds, the loss of libraries, parks, parking spaces, small business, manufacturing. The increase of housing costs but lack of housing, hardly any police left and all other associated problems, are of a far greater concern then any "invasion". We are ALL affected, ALL the time by these issues.
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 4:42 PM BST
The national Spend on the War against terror  must be an Unreal Figure ..
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 4:43 PM BST
How much is that costing the TAX PAYER ??  Money that could be used on many other things
Report saddo May 27, 2019 4:50 PM BST
All those words and study didn't directly answer lux's question.
Report saddo May 27, 2019 5:02 PM BST
I never wanted you to say anything. He never mentioned invasion, you invented that bit. He simply asked 'Do you think that demographic change and the attitudes of British Muslims are cause for concern?'
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:12 PM BST
Lux's question to STUDYFORM:

Do you think that demographic change and the attitudes of British Muslims are cause for concern?

He did answer it with this:

Demographic change worldwide has always been a concern for the people who consider their land is being "invaded".

When however, it hasn't been invaded (see 1930's Germany) and the "Invasion" scare is propagated by would-be politicians and people online


and then this:

There isn't a fecking "Invasion", Is that clear enough?

He's turned a blind eye to the demographic change as if it isn't there.
Report Injera May 27, 2019 5:19 PM BST
'Invasion' from the interweb..

an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

synonyms:    influx, inundation, inrush, rush, flood, torrent, deluge, stream, avalanche
"every year the valley suffers an invasion of cars"
an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.


Mass immigration is clearly a type of invasion. To suggest otherwise is to deny reality.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:20 PM BST
You see how he resorts to personal attacks the moment he  gets himself in a corner.

He'll come back with something unreadable next, which is his usual get out.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:22 PM BST
Now anyone who challenges STUDYFORN's tripe is a troll.
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 5:23 PM BST
I believe, saddo used the term "takeover" earlier.
If it makes you feel better about yourselves, substitute invasion for takeover.
(If unsure injera) look it up.

No crippen. you're the only troll.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:25 PM BST
Name calling as usual along with refusing to see the blindingly obvious, even when it's put right under his nose.
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 5:25 PM BST
Also crippen, making stuff up again. I didn't make personal attacks against anyone, did I?
Well apart from calling you a troll, but that isn't an attack, it's a statement of fact.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:26 PM BST
How can you hold a conversation with someone like that?
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 5:26 PM BST
Did you get my earlier post removed crippen?
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:28 PM BST
I didn't make personal attacks against anyone, did I?

Yes you did here:

I'm quite sure you get my meaning and the gist of what I'm saying, saddo.
[i]Leave the trolling to crippen
.[/i]

Lol.
Report Injera May 27, 2019 5:29 PM BST
Study - I like definitions Happy

Many words are used without consideration of what they actually mean.
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 5:33 PM BST
I wouldn't think saddo was insulted by that, crippen, much as you want to garner support.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:36 PM BST
I'm sure saddo wasn't upset by it.

But why do you have to constantly call people names?
Report STUDYFORM May 27, 2019 5:42 PM BST
Give it up crippen - you're just being extra pitiful. Making more things up.
I didn't post what you quoted did I?


I'll try to be more concise, saddo.
I don't like the immigration, political correctness, changes to society's perceived norms (eg, muslim areas and other "no-go" areas) any more than anyone else.

What I do think though, is that the bigger problem is our government, not any "takeover".

I absolutely DO NOT think the answer to any of our problems lies with "far-right" groups (or however you want to define them). The answer to our problems DOES NOT rest with people like Yaxley or Nick Griffin. There are enough problems without creating extra division.

There aren't too many more ways of saying it.
Report Injera May 27, 2019 5:45 PM BST
Invasion is a word asscociated with a military campaign. Men in uniforms with rifles, tanks and air support.

What has failed to take these islands with force is being achieved by stealth:

'Freedom of Movement' - the right to settle in another country and have equal citizenship.
'Migrants' - encompasses both legal and illegal entrants. Come on in. Our country is yours...
'Pluralism' - imposition of all cultures, often at the expense of the existing one.
'Cosmopolitan' - a fancy word meaning globalist i.e no definitive culture nor identity.
'feminism' - under the guise of promoting women it emasculates men, the gender that historically defends a country from INVASION.

As they say..simples.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:51 PM BST
I didn't post what you quoted did I?

It's there at 17.19 for all to see.
Report alun2005 May 27, 2019 5:52 PM BST
As things stand, there will one day be a Muslim majority here, and they will take over the running of this country when that happens.


I'd imagine that it won't even require a 'Muslim majority population' to achieve political takeover. Their chosen party just needs to win more seats than the next highest placed party. Labour is already pretty much that party of Compulsory Islam For All. Labour even used to stage Segregated Meetings to suck up to that voting block.

But yes, if and when the numbers are in position, I'd guess The Islam Party would be pretty short odds to take over.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 5:53 PM BST
Why deny the obvious?
Report Richie_Burnett May 27, 2019 5:57 PM BST
After having their ideology rejected at the ballot box, the chit-chat right wing fanatics are now reduced to scaremongering on the betfair forum. A truly sickening spectacle.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 6:00 PM BST
Who's that girl in the picture Richie?
Report Richie_Burnett May 27, 2019 6:01 PM BST
Mignon du Preez.
Report Dr Crippen May 27, 2019 6:04 PM BST
Thank you kindly.
Report casemoney May 27, 2019 8:23 PM BST
£2 billion Plus on counter-terrorism each year.

Looks like the Government must read this Forum , They certainly appear to think there is a Live and Real threat

Scaremongering ?? I don't think so the fact is there is a small  percentage of the Population who Detest and Despise the

Rest of us Sad
Report Richie_Burnett May 28, 2019 2:32 AM BST
People from poor, foreign countries have more access to poor foreign women.

Who knew?
Report mouse muldoon May 28, 2019 9:48 AM BST
Brown people aren't funny, the great comedians are all white.
Report lux May 28, 2019 9:52 AM BST
Three words mouse: Eddie Murphy Delirious
Report mouse muldoon May 28, 2019 9:56 AM BST
Bernard John Manning
Report Richie_Burnett May 28, 2019 12:24 PM BST
Lies, damned lies and statistics imo lux.
Report lux May 28, 2019 5:46 PM BST
I think you mean hate facts Richie.

More holes than a swiss cheese this thread.
Report lux May 28, 2019 5:48 PM BST


Hate facts against unattractive women imo
Report Injera May 28, 2019 6:03 PM BST
Royal Mail refused to deliver his leaflets. Gotta love living in a free country....Sad
Report edy May 29, 2019 9:00 AM BST
Injera • May 27, 2019 5:45 PM BST
Invasion is a word asscociated with a military campaign. Men in uniforms with rifles, tanks and air support.

What has failed to take these islands with force is being achieved by stealth:

'Freedom of Movement' - the right to settle in another country and have equal citizenship.
'Migrants' - encompasses both legal and illegal entrants. Come on in. Our country is yours...
'Pluralism' - imposition of all cultures, often at the expense of the existing one.
'Cosmopolitan' - a fancy word meaning globalist i.e no definitive culture nor identity.
'feminism' - under the guise of promoting women it emasculates men, the gender that historically defends a country from INVASION.

As they say..simples.


True, we can see that in full display with supposedly full grown men whinging to no end and heavily escalating supposed "dangers". The occident is going to end if we allow gay marriage. Women with equal rights, APOCALPYSE!
Report edy May 29, 2019 9:03 AM BST
and don't get me started on the alt-right. 4Chan internet crybabies the lot of them.
Report Dr Crippen May 29, 2019 9:23 AM BST
I think someone has got under edy's skin.
Report edy May 29, 2019 9:33 AM BST
I think someone needs to learn the difference between a purely peefed off comment that would show someone has gotten under someone's skin and a sensationally humourous take on someone else's parody post.
Report edy May 29, 2019 9:37 AM BST
Ah, I realize why you didn't get it. You need LaughLaughCrazyCrazyExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited to properly understand posts Happy

I'll try to always add them for clarity from now on for you. Happy
Report Dr Crippen May 29, 2019 10:04 AM BST
And it shows.
Report Reynard May 29, 2019 11:20 AM BST
Irony emoji required Plain
Report donny osmond May 29, 2019 11:39 AM BST
Mischief
Report Reynard May 29, 2019 11:58 AM BST
How ironic Mischief
Report mouse muldoon May 29, 2019 1:04 PM BST
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Report Dr Crippen May 30, 2019 9:32 AM BST
You need LaughLaughCrazyCrazyExcitedExcitedExcitedExcited to properly understand posts

Okay edy baby, let's take a look.

and don't get me started on the alt-right. 4Chan internet crybabies the lot of them.


So the right haven't been getting to you?

Fair enough. So what was that sarcarm?
Report Dr Crippen May 30, 2019 9:33 AM BST
sarcasm even.
Report edy May 31, 2019 7:03 AM BST
If you put on your reading glasses and look very, very closely you will be bound to notice that I wrote alt-right and not just right. Happy

The right I fully respect. I've voted right many a times in my life, included in recent time. The alt-right however are just lame and for me they drag the right and conservatism down. They're doing the right and conservatism a massive disservice. They're a bunch of giant supposedly grown up crybabies, conspiracy loons, always eager to display themselves and white people as poor lil victims of everyone, confuse being a conservative with being a turd sandwich. At the same time they're bigger trolls than you and me combined.

It's pathetic really.
Report edy May 31, 2019 7:05 AM BST
That's why I always make sure to differentiate and call them "conspiracy nutjob wannabe conservatives" instead of...conservatives.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 9:38 AM BST
and don't get me started on the alt-right. 4Chan internet crybabies the lot of them.

Given your recent barrage of attacks directed at your right-wing antagonists elsewhere that you refer to as neo-Nazis, and even more abuse directed towards them in your last post, who else could that line above in bold be about?

I stick by my original comment.

I think someone has got under edy's skin.
Report edy May 31, 2019 9:51 AM BST
Your conclusion making is rather misguided. Not that we didn't know this already with you loving yourself the most bizarre of conspiracy theories and theories about former/alternative usernames.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 10:36 AM BST
All the nonsense you wrote about me not understanding the post, was an attempt to hide the fact that people writing about you elsewhere, have upset you.
And your post was just another swipe at them.

So when I teased with - ''I think someone has got under edy's skin.''  You knew exactly whom I was referring to.

But your vanity wouldn't allow you to leave it at that.
So now your fury at the attacks from your tormenters, are clear to everybody on the forum who reads this.

Which I find most amusing.





So as my amusement grows at observing your efforts to conceal the fact that they've got to you.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 10:40 AM BST
I didn't meant to post that last line.
Report edy May 31, 2019 10:49 AM BST
My first post was obviously a slight dig at Injera. The post that followed up was obviously about the people that sadly managed to manipulate a formerly good, proper and sensible conservative like Injera into believing the things he does these days. As I said, your conclusion-making does need some tweaking.

Hence, when you said "I think someone has got under edy's skin." my natural conclusion, and that of most people I would assume, was that you were talking about Injera. I'm sorry for getting that wrong.

Either way, if you revel in and take delight from the thought you and your neo-nazi boyfriend are the puppeteers behind me constantly making fun of you fellas, absolutely be my guest and continue manipulating me into making fun of you. It makes me tragically sad.
Report Reynard May 31, 2019 11:06 AM BST
edy • May 31, 2019 10:49 AM BST
....... you and your neo-nazi boyfriend .......

It's labels and phrases such as this that keep me amused on here Laugh
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 11:10 AM BST
I'm sorry for getting that wrong.

Well you did get it wrong, and in spectacular fashion.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 11:11 AM BST
But I gracefully accept your apology and forgive you.

There is that better now.
Report edy May 31, 2019 11:28 AM BST

May 31, 2019 -- 11:10AM, Dr Crippen wrote:


I'm sorry for getting that wrong.Well you did get it wrong, and in spectacular fashion.


Yes, as I said, I'm sorry for assuming that you had any sense and knew I wasn't talking about Coxy there...in a post that was a direct response to Injera. I should've really known better and can only apologize.

Report edy May 31, 2019 11:34 AM BST

May 31, 2019 -- 11:06AM, Reynard wrote:


edy • May 31, 2019 10:49 AM BST....... you and your neo-nazi boyfriend .......It's labels and phrases such as this that keep me amused on here


Don't worry, Reynard, I don't apply the label loosely. Or have you seen me do it? I strictly reserve it for people that proudly present themselves with SS insignia (outside of halloween) and threaten me with the gas chamber, among some other neo-nazi things Happy

Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 11:59 AM BST
Again.

I think someone has got under edy's skin.
Report edy May 31, 2019 12:09 PM BST
Again, if you take comfort from the "good knowledge" that you and Cowardly Coxy are pulling the strings behind me taking the urine with you, absolutely be my guest and continue. I can only welcome that.
Report edy May 31, 2019 12:10 PM BST
Not gonna talk anyone out of his masochist tendencies.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 12:22 PM BST
Just saying edy.

You're the one calling names and making accusations.

I don't do stuff like that. I leave it to the likes of you.
Report edy May 31, 2019 12:36 PM BST
Really, Crippen, I think I've told you about a dozen times before, but you're the last person on this forum that can use the eternal innocent victim act that you oh so like to put on.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 2:13 PM BST
Looks like edy has accused himself in his last but one post.

He even spells out what he's been up to

And is his outburst here not simply another blatant attempt along the same lines?
Report edy May 31, 2019 2:19 PM BST
I have not accused myself of anything. I merely listed your baseless accusations towards me that are entirely the creation of your imagination. The same imagination that has given us gems regarding the moon landing clearly being faked because some guy wouldn't besmirch the bible  on behalf of some conspiracy loon, or that the BBC has purposefully put Question Time into a majorily jewish area, and invited a majorily jewish crowd, to get to one of the guests that night.

You don't have to worry about me at all, Crippen. In addition to never reporting anyone anyway, I enjoy you in particularly far too much to want you banned. A big part of me would die if you were to be banned again. That's why I offered to be your personal Jiminy Cricket and protect you from yourself while you mature.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 2:35 PM BST
All the nastiness and bile are coming from you edy. (''your new boyfriend neo-nazi that you admire so much''
)

I merely pointed out that your slanging match with someone elsewhere was getting to you.
Which showed from you numerous references to it here.

Then in revenge you launched an unjustified attack on me.

And I see another swipe at me in your last sentence above, which proves my point.
Report edy May 31, 2019 2:36 PM BST

May 31, 2019 -- 12:36PM, edy wrote:


Really, Crippen, I think I've told you about a dozen times before, but you're the last person on this forum that can use the eternal innocent victim act that you oh so like to put on.


.

Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 2:41 PM BST
^^See what I mean?
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 3:01 PM BST
Although it was decent of you to point out that Betfair were unfair to ban me for writing something that others write without any action being taken against them.

I appreiciate that.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 3:02 PM BST
appreciate
Report Injera May 31, 2019 5:07 PM BST
Whos is the neo nazi? Hope it's not me - I don't approve of national socialism.
Report Injera May 31, 2019 5:53 PM BST
Oh I see. Phew.
Report Dr Crippen May 31, 2019 6:54 PM BST
He's really getting to edy.
Report Facts June 1, 2019 3:47 PM BST
Injera    27 May 19 13:57 
Tommy got 40k votes.

He was banned from Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, Snapchat and Instagram. He couldn't raise money in any conventional way like other candidates. He was given little or no air time by the MSM.

The appalling scenes in Oldham where Greater Manchester Plod ESCORTED 2-300 Muslim Defence League men miles to where Tommy held a rally were not given coverage.. They threw bricks and bottles and children and women had to flee.

They smashed up a panda car and at one point 5 of them attacked one man.

If this had been any other candidate it would have been headline news for days if not weeks.

I'd say 40k was a great effort.




Er....he got 2171 votes.
Trust this helps
Report lux June 1, 2019 5:14 PM BST
Er....he got 2171 votes.
Trust this helps



38,908
Report edy June 1, 2019 5:19 PM BST
2171 in Manchester
38,908 in the North West region

Happy
Report mouse muldoon June 1, 2019 5:23 PM BST
Why didn't he stand in Lutonshire?
Report aaronh June 1, 2019 6:09 PM BST
easier to rabble rouse in the North where he thinks there are more dumb racists
Report mouse muldoon June 1, 2019 6:12 PM BST
Poor research on his part.
Report Reynard June 1, 2019 8:00 PM BST
Interesting 'fact' from Facts . Not a 'fact' at all but I guess there are lies , damn lies and factistics Silly
Report mouse muldoon June 1, 2019 11:00 PM BST
If Tommy was a pawn of Reyno, how would you of campaigned him better?
Report Dr Crippen June 1, 2019 11:06 PM BST
38,908 for an independent is an awful lot of votes.
Report Reynard June 1, 2019 11:18 PM BST
If Tommy was a pawn of Reyno, how would you of campaigned him better?

I'd have employed a professional speech writer and sent him for lessons in diction .

38,908 for an independent is an awful lot of votes.

Some on here would argue that 38,908 for Mr Robinson is a lot of awful votes Mischief
Report mouse muldoon June 1, 2019 11:22 PM BST
Agree with the diction thing, also make his hands a bit more quiet.
Report aaronh June 2, 2019 12:48 AM BST

Jun 1, 2019 -- 11:06PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


38,908 for an independent is an awful lot of votes.


it's no Martin Bell, 2004 East of England candidate or Jan Jananayagam, 2009 London candidate imo

of course, the more embarrassing thing was that he even lost to Change UK SadSadSadSadSad

Report aaronh June 2, 2019 12:51 AM BST
Katie Hopkins only got just under 9k back in 2009, so it's a good haul in comparison
Report thegiggilo June 2, 2019 2:16 AM BST
Lol nick griffin  held the seat from 2009-2014 perhaps they aren't sure what kind of race hate they prefer muslims or jews as nick griffin was antesemetic as well..incredibly dumb people!
Report lux June 7, 2019 7:54 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktyYXbGI3Ms

Obscured view unfortunately, but doesn't look a bad dig if truth be told. Nice and tight, short, sharp and explosive. Better than those girly punches he was throwing at Ascot a few years back. Perhaps he's been taking lessons?
Report aaronh June 11, 2019 7:43 AM BST
https://www.dangerous.com/50638/say-farewell-to-the-klepto-queens-of-the-british-far-right/

.

Nice story about the trail of scamming from Tommy's cameramen and the story of how they continued to scam and defraud several alt right idiots
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