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casemoney
25 May 19 14:28
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After the EU results , I cannot see how another Vote will ever be held .If there is any chance that Leave would win again ,they will not even consider another Vote , Just a load of Seething Luvvie Hot Air ..

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By:
mouse muldoon
When: 25 May 19 14:31
Ferret left.
By:
casemoney
When: 25 May 19 14:33
Be plenty of of Milkshaking Action from the Seethers
By:
alun2005
When: 25 May 19 14:47
I can't wait to see the UK Voter Turnout statistics. In particular the number of votes cast for politicians OTHER than UKIP and the Brexit Party representatives. 

EVERY Remainer would surely have voted against UKIP/Brexit Party, given their much-stated and oft-repeated (Pretendy) LOVE of the European Union. Right?
By:
Angoose
When: 25 May 19 15:06
I'm sure that many will attempt to argue that case once the figures are available, we'll also see other spurious interpretations of the result.
By:
alun2005
When: 25 May 19 15:17
Yes indeed, I'm sure we'll see all sorts of ludicrous 'explanations' of why 'Remain' supporters failed to cast their votes for politicians who oppose Brexit.
By:
edy
When: 25 May 19 15:22
Still puzzles me that the UK always holds elections on a weekday because they deem the population too drunk when people don't have to show up for work.
By:
Angoose
When: 25 May 19 15:27
First statistic of note will be on turnout: 1999 24%, 2004 39%, 2009 35%, 2014 36%.

Last five General elections : 2001 59%, 2005 61%, 2010 65%, 2015 66%, 2017 69%
The 2016 EU referendum had a turnout of 72%
By:
aaronh
When: 25 May 19 15:30
sounds like it might not crack 40 from projections
By:
Angoose
When: 25 May 19 15:33
Suspect it will be closer to thirty than forty.
By:
aaronh
When: 25 May 19 15:35

May 25, 2019 -- 3:22PM, edy wrote:


Still puzzles me that the UK always holds elections on a weekday because they deem the population too drunk when people don't have to show up for work.


does that seem all that outrageous by all the Brits you know?

By:
Angoose
When: 25 May 19 15:39
Table: European Parliament election turnout % by country 1979—2014

1979 1984 1989 1994 1999 2004 2009 2014

United Kingdom 
32.35% 32.57% 36.37% 36.43% 24% 38.52% 34.7% 35.60%

Average EU Turnout
61.99% 58.98% 58.41% 56.67% 49.51% 45.47% 42.97% 42.61%


"The reason why British General Elections are held on Thursdays is because this day of the week was, in most cases, the traditional market day. As a result of this, most people would be in town and, therefore, be able to vote in addition to purchasing their wares."
By:
edy
When: 25 May 19 15:39
I've not gotten to know the British as being drunk to the level that would render them unable to participate in elections held on a Sunday.
By:
edy
When: 25 May 19 15:43
Wikipedia tells me

It has been suggested that this tradition arose as the best of several circumstances: Friday pay-packets would lead to more drunken voters on Fridays and weekends; having the election as far after a Sunday as possible would reduce the influence of Sunday sermons; many towns held markets on Thursdays, thus the local population would be travelling to town that day anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Day_(United_Kingdom)

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By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 May 19 15:44
Well if the current deadlock continues then are alternatives are

a) We leave without a deal
b) 2nd Referendum(we will vote to remain would be my prediction)
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 25 May 19 16:52
If leave looks like winning by a bigger margin they'll never have a 2nd vote and they'll make out its leave who don't want it, and then proceed to keep kicking the can down the road for ever and ever
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 May 19 17:04
Sad
By:
themightymac
When: 25 May 19 23:15
aaronh, I think 40% or under was fav at 10/11 or thereabouts.

I don`t know anybody from the pub who even voted and it`s a big pub Crazy
By:
n88uk
When: 26 May 19 00:11
The results for the European elections aren't even in, I highly doubt they will show a heavy leave vote but we will see.
By:
casemoney
When: 26 May 19 02:37
I highly doubt they will show a heavy leave vote but we will see.Laugh
By:
onlooker
When: 26 May 19 02:58
n88uk    26 May 19 00:11 

The results for the European elections aren't even in, I highly doubt they will show a heavy leave vote
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Where the F*** have you been?

Have you not heard of this bloke called FARAGE?
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PS ..... You are posting on a Forum on a Betting Site...

- For YOUR OWN SAKE - Please Do NOT ever place a BET again.
By:
edy
When: 26 May 19 09:10
Bit harsh to tell him to never place a bet ever again. He could know his stuff about e.g tennis.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 26 May 19 09:27
Farage doesn't bet, therefore I'd assume that he lacks many of the numeracy, risk assessment, bankroll management etc. skills that us punters acquire along the way.
By:
n88uk
When: 26 May 19 10:13
Go on then, what is the evidence of this heavy leave vote...
By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 19 10:28

May 26, 2019 -- 9:10AM, edy wrote:


Bit harsh to tell him to never place a bet ever again. He could know his stuff about e.g tennis.


doubtful

By:
onlooker
When: 26 May 19 10:51
n88uk    26 May 19 10:13 

Go on then, what is the evidence of this heavy leave vote...
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You WILL find out at 10:00pm tonight.
By:
edy
When: 26 May 19 10:55
Maybe you guys have different views on what constitutes a heavy leave vote Happy
By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 19 10:59
BXP are gonna win with 30-40 but it shouldn't be considered as heavy by any means
By:
n88uk
When: 26 May 19 11:01
You could even call it a minority.
By:
The Management
When: 26 May 19 12:06
Surely if UKIP and the Brexit party get a combined result of less than 51% - it demonstrates that the appetite for leaving has declined?
By:
HGS
When: 26 May 19 12:23
Labour may also be included. We all know Jeremy is a brexiteer at heart.
By:
wit-ham
When: 26 May 19 12:56
We will have a GE before any 2nd ref and that is when Lab/Lib will get together
on a (WE NEED ANOTHER VOTE STAND, SORRY FOR SHOUTING) and will no field a full
team in certain areas to make sure they win the marginal seats to get the 2nd ref majority in parliarment

then we have a second ref and that's when the civil war starts as the army will not protect the likes of Corbin
and his cronies or any politician as they have now seen the way they are thrown to the wolves for political capital.

My book The Very Wild Assumption Of A Ticket Office Clerk (Man of the People) goes into print in 2525 published by Zager & Evans
By:
HGS
When: 26 May 19 13:12
In the year 2525....
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 26 May 19 13:31
#RevokeA50
By:
edy
When: 27 May 19 07:05
Heavy Brexit vote delivered in England. In your face, n88!

With the treasonous Welsh and Scottish people delivering a remain vote it is becoming increasingly obvious that English nationalism must rise and get rid of the quislings, the leeches, the enemies of the real people that surround the nation.

English money for English priorities!
English democracy for English people without Welsh and Scottish sabotage!
By:
Crisp77
When: 27 May 19 07:23
The racist remainers will still want us to stay in the 99% white European Parliament with its strong National Front presence.

A huge shame on you to the racist Liberal Democrats. They must be stopped.
By:
Hanx
When: 27 May 19 08:49
Well if the current deadlock continues then are alternatives are

a) We leave without a deal
b) 2nd Referendum(we will vote to remain would be my prediction)


There will be all sorts of spin put on the statistics but if you amalgamate the Brexit and UKIP vote and do a bit of educated maths as to the percentage of Conservative and Labour vote that want Brexit. Put that down as ‘The Leave Vote’ and all else as ‘The Remain Vote’.

Haircut the Remain Vote (again, admitting this is educated guesswork) to account for the EU nationals that voted in the EU elections, presumably overwhelmingly for Remain - who cannot vote in a second referendum - and you get a roughly even split, just like we did in 2016 and just like we will if we go for another referendum.

NO ONE HAS, EFFECTIVELY CHANGED THEIR MINDS!

So for all the column inches, the social media postings, the ‘education of the elctorate’, the interviews, the speeches, the negotiations and the blather, we are still where we were.

Another referendum is another coin toss that will satisfy nobody.

Either revoke Article 50 or prepare for then initiate WTO and face the political consequences of either course of action, ideally by articulating a vision of the country you want under either.

The time for a mythical, non-existent compromise is over. We need conviction politicians with energy and vision and a civil service to back them
By:
Angoose
When: 27 May 19 09:07
There will be more interpretations of the EU election results than the number of votes that were cast, confirming that people can only see what they want to see when it comes to Brexit.

What needs to be understood is that the EU has changed overnight, all EU MP's were up for re-election.

Additionally, both Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker's terms of office will come to a close, the positions of President of the European Council and President of the European Commission are now subject to an election process.

It only takes one EU member to veto a UK request for a further extension to the article 50 process.
France was very close to applying that veto prior to the granting of the October extension, Tusk and Juncker using their influence to make it happen.

As such, the only way that the UK can take back control of this crazy process is to revoke Article 50.

Crashing out with no deal is not taking control, requesting a further extension under current circumstances is equally not something where we can guarantee that we get what we want.
By:
Hanx
When: 27 May 19 09:51
As such, the only way that the UK can take back control of this crazy process is to revoke Article 50.

Fine - then what?
By:
Angoose
When: 27 May 19 09:58
Pause and reflect.

If you want to have a subsequent referendum, then you can.
If you want to have a general election, then you can.

But first, take away the ticking clock that has paralysed the function of government and get back to doing some governing.
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