Who would want to be a Police Officer these days

they have changed the wording of there oath, used to say "serve and protect" now reads "harass and intimidate.

There will always be enough to join the force. At worst, the guys running those gangs in London will happily sign up.

I've never had a good opinion about cops but I now consider them the scum of the earth because of an incident that happened to me about two months back. Walked out of my home with a friend who had come to visit me from Austria. A police car showed up. They got out, one pulled out his gun. Didn't even talk to us but started walking around us in circles. Then a van with 6 more cops showed up. Never told us what the issue was. But for some reason they looked so scared that they told us not to move and wouldn't even come near us to check us. I asked them if I could help them and they wouldn't tell me what the issue was. They made both of us keep our hands up for 10 min, then against the van for 10 min. Then they went through our phones, our call logs. Why my friend had about 400 Euros of cash in his pocket etc etc. Then they took us to a nearby street where apparently someone had been robbed and the robber was wearing a black trouser, just like me. ffs. Anyhow the robbed guy told the cops we weren't the ones and they dropped us back at my home. This was very embarrassing as I was meeting my friend after about 5 years.

Next day I complained at the police station. I was told two things. I will never win if I sued them. And that the police can use force and go through my phone if they think I am carrying a weapon. I didn't have legal insurance so I didn't pursue it further, but I do now after this incident.

What got me was how scared those cops were. It was simply a case of checking our pockets and ensuring we weren't carrying any weapons. But it needed to be 8 of them for them to even start getting near us. This is obviously protocol, but I could see from their faces the two cops were scared shet, until 6 more arrived. Then they started acting like they'd achieved some great feat.

The two cops wouldn't stand a chance against those refugees, and those news items that never made sense now do to me. The guy in the video is right in calling the cop a pusy. Everyone can be brave with the power of state behind him and a weapon in his hand.

waste of time complaing about the police to the police, ipcc are just @rse lickers. report a break in or assault and no one is available, commit a minor traffic offence and six of the scumbags will be there in under 5 minutes.

I'd like to add that one of the two cops that first arrived had the audacity to later tell the other 6 cops that I looked nervous! Not sure what he was expecting me to act like with 8 cops around me, four of them holding weapons in their hands. This, when he was the one acting like a pusy walking around us in circles waiting for 6 more cops to arrive before he could approach us.

detraveller, check - https://crimebodge.com/

Thanks cooper, but I live in Germany.

I did some research later and I could clearly get back to them for going through my phone without my permission. But I didn't have any legal insurance and i've sued my employer once without any lawyer and its just not worth it(sued them for 1.2k, got only 500 euros, later realized I could have sued them for thousands for what they'd done). I've learnt my lesson and taken appropriate measures now to protect myself as things are generally only going to get worse in the future.

So this happened in Germany? IF the robbery happened with a gun they perhaps thought you had a gun, which is going to make anyone a bit nervous.

If this is Germany of course you can be summarily executed by the Bundeslaufenpolizei for Jay walking. Fact.

I meant because of how people behave today. Also everything is filmed on a had camera. The job is a mare. In the OP link there is no Police brutality.

I agree with JC. The assailant may have been armed and they were not taking any chances. Can you blame them?

Back in the 70s if you stepped out of line, they took you away in a van and gave you a good thumping, well so I heard

Now they can`t even use force to get an eejit into a car.

what the police hate most of all is someone who knows their rights and is willing to stand up for them. say "no" to one and they are straight away calling for backup, you then get the gruppenfuhrer and his ss mates attending.

Who wouldn't want to be a Policeman?!

The customer is always wrong just like for teachers but unlike teachers they are allowed to beat the customer!

Maximum pension for fewer years!

Plenty of over time at higher rate often sitting around doing nothing!

Yeah I'd be a Policeman! I'd start off on the forum dispensing Justice, Judge Dredd stylee!

Fine Upstanding Citizens going about their Daily Business ,  given grief  by the Police

Think they had a few Gallons of Emulsion at the station Just needed the Blokes beard .

Its great to see or Diverse Friends fully co operating with the police ..

A VAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED AND CHAPPIE FOOKED STRAIGHT INTO THE BACK OF IT, THE GEEZER WITH THE PHONE AS WELL>

I have said before Give it 25 years This country will over run Parts of it are No Go enclaves as it is ...

23 Million pound Mosque recently Built They have Bundles , and Plenty of Bellies producing ,the Birth rate among them is Rocketing , I seen figures of 15 million by 2040

By 2050 1/2 the UK will be Islamic

I hope a few of our Luvvie friends are still about They will see the true Meaning of Diversity

I seen figures of 15 million by 2040

Tonight

I don`t mind as long as the LGBT & trans communities are over represented.

There are plenty on here who are good at maths, yet choose to ridicule such a figure.

I'm not sure what the stats are on German gun crime but anecdotally I thought that area of the world was worse as it's got open borders with guns from the eastern block countries? One reason I suppose the German police (and even security guards in some coutries in Europe) are armed?

Interesting stats here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

So German has > 4x the gun related death rate of the UK. Though .. delving deeper, there are lies and statistics, and very interstingly the homicide rates are similar it's their gun SUICIDE rate that makes up the big difference. Austria's total per capita is almost 3x Germany! I remember looking at the display of glocks in a shop window on a normal austrian high street, and thinking "you don't see that here!". Honduras wins. Not going there on my hols this year.

"themightymac • May 18, 2019 1:23 PM BST
I agree with JC. "
Printed out and mailed to my mum, she's going to put it on the fridge .

I must be ill.

"themightymac • May 18, 2019 1:23 PM BST
I agree with JC.

He's had a treble up on the horses and Kelly Brooks finally said yes.

Apart from when I go to Brixton market I have not seen a rozzer on the beat where I live for about 4 years if not longer. I totally despise the police, thick, two bob nobodies the lot of them. They tried to give me a hard time when I had done nothing wrong and I just squashed them like the rancid liars they were.

Brixton market. You got a stall Slippy?
Jellied Eels and Mash stall is my bet.

I think the police do a good job under the circumstances. They're underfunded, understaffed and work in an increasingly violent atmosphere. I respect them.

No not a stall akabula, I just like going there as I was born in Brixton and it's only a 10 minute drive from me and I usually do my food shopping there.

A few years ago the 'Brixton Pound' used to be a thing, is that still going? It was money/currency that could only be spent/given in Brixton in local shops to help independant stores rather than multinationals, thought it was a good idea at the time.

Gotta say, I'm thirty-eight this month, and not once in my entire life have I ever been hassled by a cop.

I often think there's more to these tales of woe by these innocent angels that are randomly bullied by the police.

Any reason why you would be?

Was footage on Politics Live this week giving a guy a fine for walking down the street but covering his face when the UK-Wannnabe-Stasi were trialing face recognition in the street. Do they want us to not respect them?
Described here.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/16/moment-man-fined-90-hiding-face-police-facial-recognition-cameras-9571463/

I saw that JC but what do you want the police to do?

Not fine people who are not doing anything wrong.

It was a facial recognition system which is not anything to get worried about. I believe they caught three wanted criminals.

Should be more of them. Let's get criminals off the streets.

If it been a Burqa would they have got fined?
I'm for it if it helps bang up the villains but surely nobody can be exempt.

of course they wouldn't aka, how dare they apply the law to everybody.

May 18, 2019 -- 12:43PM, Just Checking wrote:

So this happened in Germany? IF the robbery happened with a gun they perhaps thought you had a gun, which is going to make anyone a bit nervous.If this is Germany of course you can be summarily executed by the Bundeslaufenpolizei for Jay walking. Fact.

Yes I later read in the news that there was an armed robbery. That made the episode even more ridiculous as there were 8 policemen engaged with me and 2 with the guy who was robbed. A standard 'Polizeieinsatz' for robbery in Germany is exactly that. SO basically they wasted over an hour on us giving the real robber enough time to get to safety. Doesn't sound like great police work to me.

As I said earlier, I offered them help and wanted to cooperate but the shifty cop didn't want to talk. All he did was radio backup then hold his gun and walk around us in circles(maybe so we don't run away?). It took them 45 minutes to decide that they could solve the issue by taking us to the robbed guy who was standing about 150m away.

So they treated us as guilty until proven innocent. The whole squad wasted their time on us. Not sure if this is how they usually work but if this is their standard procedure it should be pretty easy for criminals to get away.

May 18, 2019 -- 1:40PM, invicta wrote:

what the police hate most of all is someone who knows their rights and is willing to stand up for them. say "no" to one and they are straight away calling for backup, you then get the gruppenfuhrer and his ss mates attending.

This is true. But the alternative isn't all that great either. They can basically do what they want to do so at the end of the day you cooperating or not isn't what decides their behavior. I read some articles on the net related to such incidents and the clear advice is to know your rights, and use them.

I don't know if my behavior is justified or not but a policeman is never again getting an ounce of respect from me. In fact i'll be deliberately wasting their time the next time I have the chance. To have 4 people pointing guns at you for half an hour is a terrifying experience, especially when they refuse to tell you what its about. I was shaken and the cop acting brave was on about how I was nervous. On top of all that, I had a guest whom I had known for 20 years and who visited me on the request of my parents. I had to apologize to him too as he went through the exact same experience as me.

Some events can change your life and this one has changed my perception of police forever. Hopefully I don't have to deal with them scum again in my life.

I worked alongside the police for over a year during the refugee crisis. So I had a lot of respect for them before this event. But I can't stand the sight of a policeman now.

Seems like the perfect occupation if one likes coke but can't be bothered to buy it for oneself

Detraveller having SOME guys acting a bit incompetent doesn't mean they are all bad? It's not institutionalised. Your story reminds me of the incident a year or two ago, where a drunk guy, totally being nice, in the US, (who was totally innocent) was over an extended period by an idiot cop given lots of stupid commmands and then shot dead for not complying properly. It was on video and talked about on here. (As I recall forum troll Crippen was all behind the cop I think..). Anyway the obvious thing to do was to just have one cop cover the decent non violent compliant person and lie him down or put him over something, hand outstretched and visible, and another pat him down and search him, can be done in 60 seconds..

8 armed men on 2 with 45 minutes of whatever of aiming at you is insane, it damages you and it damages them. Either very poor training or trained in a very poor procedure.

You know this is an interesting thread as it reminds me just how ****ed up the US cops are, and how they can shoot inocent people and get away with it. There is NO question there. :(

I fully agree that a few bad cops doesn't mean the whole police is bad. But I can't assume that a cop is good the next time I see one. And I know now they won't assume I am innocent either(something we all take for granted - i've done nothing wrong so why should I be worried? etc.). Its just that I won't be able to respect a cop again in my life. Maybe it will change in the future.

No place to run,no place to hide! your privacy is going fast!

detraveller, I certainly would not assume that a police officer I met was a "good one". most of them are corrupt. we used to have a quite useful police force, they are now the para-military wing of government. the oath of "protect and serve" no longer applies. they are the most dangerous and protected group of people in our country. they don't investigate crime any more. they just pick on easy targets to exert their power on. police will tell you anything to get what information they want even if what they say is illegal under common law, other officers will stand by and know this but do or say nothing. 142 deaths in police custody in the last four years, in custody means under the care and protection of the police, not a single police officer successfully prosecuted. they are above the law.knowing your rights and standing up for them might not avoid the outcome the police want but you will be doing the right thing. you could always ask if you can visit the "crying room" being set up in police stations.

invicta
How on earth do you come to the conclusions: most of them are corrupt, they are now the para-military wing of government, the oath of "protect and serve" no longer applies, they are the most dangerous and protected group of people in our country, they don't investigate crime any more, etc?

knowledge and experience Charlie.

What knowledge and experience? Do you have any inside knowledge and reliable stats to back your claims up?

now you sound like the police Charlie, asking questions I have no obligation to answer. when it comes to the police honesty is not the best policy, silence is.

invicta is correct !

It's pointless posting if you can't substantiate what you say. If it's your opinion then so be it but don't try to pass the things you say off as true.

What, like you calling lfc 'probably the most racist poster ever'?

that's your opinion Charlie, you have the right to express it, long may it be so.

ta Reynard,  Reynard the fox, one of my favourite poems.

Easy being Plod. Arrest people for mean tweets. Or just escort the Muslim Defence League so they can have a pop at Tommy's lads. https://youtu.be/QVDtmAb68KM

Jessica   Brave lady.

GMP made a Benny Hill sketch look real.

Serpico. Read the book and I doubt that you would say that the Police wasn`t institutionalised.

or read Orwells 1984 but this time not as a work of fiction but as an instruction manual.

Yes.

That pun probably went over your head Invicta.

Rick Wakeman 1984

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6VYEuZz1zQ

yes, missed that mightymac and I have one of their albums hidden away somewhere. thanks for the link.