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John.W.Henry.
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Just incase you missed this on your other thread..

Just answer the questions please to confirm your belief of the official narrative

Wiki records as follows :

September 11, 2001


On September 11, 2001, during the terrorist attacks on the United States, Shanksville received worldwide attention after United Airlines Flight 93 crashed into a field in Stonycreek Township, 1.75 miles (2.82 km) north of the town of Shanksville, killing all 40 civilians and four Al Qaeda hijackers on board. * No evidence was found to support this

The hijackers had intended to fly the plane to Washington, D.C. and crash it into either the Capitol or the White House.* How could they ever have established this ?
However, after learning from family members via airphone * I am seriously in tears here  of the earlier attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon,* Sure they did  the passengers on board revolted against the hijackers and fought for control of the plane, causing it to crash. It was the only one of the four aircraft hijacked that day that never reached its intended target. * How can they possibly know this ? Maybe Osama Bin Laden told them Grin

Therefore can you please answer me these questions >

SO LETS HAVE IT IN HARD COPY .....

* WHERE DID THE PLANE DISAPPEAR TO IN SHANKSVILLE ???????

**WHERE DID THE DEAD CREW BODIES GO ?????

***WHERE DID THE DEAD HIJACKERS BODIES GO ?????

****WHERE DID THE DEAD PASSENGERS BODIES GO ??????

*****WHERE DID THE PLANE WRECKAGE GO ?

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO ?

*******WHERE DID ALL THE DEBRIS GO ?
Pause Switch to Standard View Charlie. Detraveller... ETC ......
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Report aaronh April 28, 2019 8:11 PM BST
come on guys, where did everyone and everything go
Report mouse muldoon April 28, 2019 8:19 PM BST
All in Dr Crippen's lock up.
Report scandanavian_haven April 28, 2019 8:25 PM BST
People who believe in conspiracy theories are generally considered to be feeling socially marginalised. Them against the world.
Report John.W.Henry. April 28, 2019 8:30 PM BST
Not looking for a conspiracy here just 4 those that buy into the narrative and are happy with it to help me understand it.

No one is able to
Report John.W.Henry. April 28, 2019 8:31 PM BST
But i havent given up hope
Report John.W.Henry. April 28, 2019 8:43 PM BST
DT... is on with it however his calculator is playing up ???

Maybe it works better at altitude ? I dont know for sure Grin
Report detraveller April 28, 2019 9:04 PM BST
I seriously dont know the answers to your questions John. I didnt even know the name of the place uptill now.

All we want to know is what you believe happened. This is very clearly mentioned in Charlie's opening post. You are conveniently dodging the question by coming up with questions of your own. Thats not how it works.

You claimed you dont believe the MSM narrative. We aksed you what it is you believe. You havent answered that. Instead youve come up with your own questions.
Report detraveller April 28, 2019 9:04 PM BST
SO what do you think happened on 9/11 John?
Report edy April 28, 2019 9:13 PM BST

Apr 28, 2019 -- 8:25PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


People who believe in conspiracy theories are generally considered to be feeling socially marginalised. Them against the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYbbvRG3tc

Report Charlie April 29, 2019 10:07 AM BST
On September 11, 2001, during the terrorist attacks on the United States, Shanksville received worldwide attention after United Airlines Flight 93 crashed into a field in Stonycreek Township, 1.75 miles (2.82 km) north of the town of Shanksville, killing all 40 civilians and four Al Qaeda hijackers on board. * No evidence was found to support this
I suggest you read the rest of the wiki article.

The hijackers had intended to fly the plane to Washington, D.C. and crash it into either the Capitol or the White House.* How could they ever have established this ?
Read the Possible Targets section of the article.

However, after learning from family members via airphone * I am seriously in tears here  of the earlier attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon,* Sure they did
35 calls using plane phones were made and two from cell phones (probably near the end of the flight at an altitude of under 5000 feet). I know you don't believe there were such things as phone planes but that just shows your ignorance.

Your questions capitalised, emboldened and with asterisks for some unknown reason, boil down to what happened to the plane wreckage and what happened to the bodies. The plane fragmented upon impact throwing debris up to eight miles. Lots of small pieces of the plane were recovered and some larger parts. Most of the body parts disintegrated on impact but lots of human fragments were found which enabled DNA identification.

Now you probably wont believe that but read this from Tracey Bryan on Quora:
What do debris of aircraft accidents typically look like?
https://www.quora.com/What-do-debris-of-aircraft-accidents-typically-look-like

As a junior officer who was lucky enough to be the base duty officer just after a military crash about 20 years ago, I also wore the hat of "search and rescue officer" for 24 hours, including handling images of the wreckage that were relayed back to base. I saw the photos of the crash wreckage, which unfortunately killed two guys I knew.

Nobody who didn't know better would believe that that hole in the ground contained a whole aircraft and two people. But it did.

One of the really freaky parts was seeing the fabric flying suits virtually intact, with no body in them. I was told that the body virtually "sieves through" the fabric at such high impact; and it seems the only explanation for what I saw. The investigators were even able to determine, for some of the duplicated instrument fragments, which were left-hand and which were right-hand instruments by the DNA coating, and in some instances embedded in, the fragments.

The largest part they found of either body was a section of jaw bone containing two teeth. There were some "pink smears" in places, but that was the only solid part.

From this black hole in the ground that appeared to contain nothing other than a trashcan full of parts, they eventually recreated virtually the whole aircraft in a hangar, as part of the accident investigation. A lot of the debris wasn't visible to me in those early photos; there were thousands of small parts of metal buried in the soil due to the force of the impact, which were only found after the whole soil was stripped and sieved.


Later in the same article:

People expect to see at least this much debris, but with a high angle of impact,  and/or high speed, you simply don't see anything that looks like an aircraft; you see charred bits of metal - broken up into tiny pieces - and possibly some larger parts from the engine and landing gear. You probably wouldn't even be grossed out by human remains unless you went picking through carefully, because there wouldn't be anything resembling a body, either.

It does seem difficult to believe, but having witnessed it "almost first hand", and having sat in on numerous accident investigation seminars, I assure you that an aircraft accident simply doesn't look like what most people expect.


Plus: How much plane wreckage is usually left when a plane crashes into something solid at several hundred miles per hour? https://www.quora.com/How-much-plane-wreckage-is-usually-left-when-a-plane-crashes-into-something-solid-at-several-hundred-miles-per-hour

At 767.269 miles per hour, that is the speed of sound in air, the wreckage left will be very small. Not small as in mass of debris left, but small as in the size of individual debris. Only one case of an aircraft I know of crashed into the ground at supersonic speeds - Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 - that left debris so tiny, it looked like an outdoor concert area filled with confetti. Why I said not small as in mass of debris left is because the deceleration experienced by the objects and human beings on-board for such a crash will be disintegrated almost instantly, but they will still be at the crash site.
Report Richie_Burnett April 29, 2019 9:32 PM BST
**WHERE DID THE DEAD CREW BODIES GO ?????

***WHERE DID THE DEAD HIJACKERS BODIES GO ?????

****WHERE DID THE DEAD PASSENGERS BODIES GO ??????


What happens when you cremate a human being?

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO ?

What happens when you use a lighter for a few days?
Report John.W.Henry. April 30, 2019 8:40 AM BST
As i totally expected .. No answers whatsoever from anyone who has looked at the evidence.

I think you all need to have a long look in the mirror and see if DENIAL is tattooed across your foreheads..

Charlie .. ffs man just face it .. You cannot understand it at all can you ??  Just have a look at the evidence of the footage from said crash site. Read the first hand reports of the first responders to the site and also consider what the coroner stated on his visit to the crater. Look at the evidence of the actual footage taken from the news channels on there initial visit to the site. Its all out there but you have to look deeper than the WIKI pages for the truth.

If you really want to find the truth, and it so is important to understand this day as it shapes everything we see and do now, then spend some time researching what plane UNITED AIRLINES state landed at Cleveland Airport at approx 10-45am.. ??

You see, you get involved in a topic which is by the far the most important you will ever have the opportunity to understand yet you cannot even do that properly can you ???

i didnt expect you to but i hoped you might try.

DT... As i stated a very long time ago I cannot explain what happened.. All i can do is state what didnt.. and for me that makes it a LIE.

Sadly as that incident is clearly a LIE then the holes in the historic records for the  rest of the day become more like oceans of deceit and if you do not have the capability or comprehension to grasp the relation to what happened and why it happened then DENIAL will stay with you forever.

I cannot tell you what happened because as i have said b4 there were technologies in play that day which we cannot comprehend so better just to try and understand what didnt.

As the late great Bill Cooper famously stated many moons ago... Read about everything, Listen to everybody but do not believe it unless you can prove it with your own research !!!

I suppose the lingering thought i have is why they bothered to stage the crash here at all ?

It baffles me completely as i just cannot understand it. It is the flimsiest part of the event and is easy to see through the LIES. Not as complex as the other 3 events at all ??

Just to sum up... As i said many moons ago.. If you cannot be bothered to research this topic properly then how can i trust anything else that you put on these pages ?

It shows a complete lack of realism and comprehension to accept what is officially recorded as it may as well have a place on your bookshelf alongside the works of the BROTHERS GRIMM !!!

Oh Richie B ... Great work . Thanks for the input !! Cry
Report John.W.Henry. April 30, 2019 9:15 AM BST
Charlie ... omg man ..History now has the two most ridiculously unbelievably extraordinary plane crashes ever recorded, as happening on the same day within hours of each other ??? Now you do the math on that ??
Report Richie_Burnett April 30, 2019 10:44 AM BST
Watching rubbish on youtube isn't "evidence"Laugh
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 1:44 PM BST
DT... As i stated a very long time ago I cannot explain what happened.. All i can do is state what didnt.. and for me that makes it a LIE.
Thanks. Took you a long time to admit you dont know what happened.

Did you 'research' on whether making phone calls from a plane was possible in 2001?
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 1:46 PM BST
Since making phone calls from a plane wasnt possible in 2001, do you have any idea when the first phone call form an airplane was made?
Report Just Checking April 30, 2019 1:52 PM BST
"Since making phone calls from a plane wasnt possible in 2001, do you have any idea when the first phone call form an airplane was made?"
Except for the phones they had on planes for passengers to make phone calls of course...
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 1:55 PM BST
But John says no plane in 2001 had inflight calling facility.
Report Charlie April 30, 2019 3:00 PM BST

Apr 30, 2019 -- 9:15AM, John.W.Henry. wrote:


Charlie ... omg man ..History now has the two most ridiculously unbelievably extraordinary plane crashes ever recorded, as happening on the same day within hours of each other ??? Now you do the math on that ??


How did work this out? I never said that.

Report Charlie April 30, 2019 3:05 PM BST
JWH
Read the first hand reports of the first responders to the site and also consider what the coroner stated on his visit to the crater

What the coroner stated is entirely consistent with what I posted above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IyTS4EOOk

What do you think they should have found at the site?
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 3:09 PM BST

Apr 30, 2019 -- 1:46PM, detraveller wrote:


Since making phone calls from a plane wasnt possible in 2001, do you have any idea when the first phone call form an airplane was made?


John, any idea when the first phone call from an airplane was made?

Report mouse muldoon April 30, 2019 3:14 PM BST
They had a phone on Air Force 1 when JFK was assassinated.
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 3:24 PM BST
Well that was Air Force 1. I am sure John was referring to ordinary passenger planes when he said you couldnt make a call from an airplane in 2001
Report Dr Crippen April 30, 2019 4:10 PM BST
I'd be surprised if the hijackers would allow the passengers to relay a running comentary to the officials on the ground in any situation.
That's the first thing the terrorists would sort out.
Report Just Checking April 30, 2019 6:04 PM BST
"But John says no plane in 2001 had inflight calling facility."
Anyone reading John's posts should the accuracy of them at the value they are worth...
Report Charlie April 30, 2019 6:23 PM BST
But on JWH's new thread he said "I went from book to book, from website to website, from video to video, from official report to official report. It was a minefield. I couldn't make head nor tale of it"

So surely after all that there couldn't possible be on-board phones could there? Of course he never reads wiki so this must be wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfone
Report Just Checking April 30, 2019 7:13 PM BST
The "they were listening to reports from ground on phones and calling on phones" is such a big part of the story of many of the hijackings, fabricating something so important if it was known not to exist at the time would appear to be a ridiculous thing to do, surely even to conspiracy nuts..
Report Charlie April 30, 2019 7:35 PM BST
On the G5 thread:
John.W.Henry. • April 22, 2019 8:29 AM BST
DT...I never run away from answering a question and why would I lie ?


There's quite a few questions asked of him on here that he hasn't answered. Why is that?
Report detraveller April 30, 2019 7:56 PM BST
Also he lied about no phones in planes. Hasn't responded to that despite being told the first phones in planes were intalled in 1984.
Report Mexico April 30, 2019 8:06 PM BST
JHW

Charlie ... omg man ..History now has the two most ridiculously unbelievably extraordinary plane crashes ever recorded, as happening on the same day within hours of each other ??? Now you do the math on that ??


What are you on about John.
Who is claiming these 4 plane crashes are independent events?

John what knowledge/experience/education in Mathematics & probability do you have?



How is your loon tube research going John. Found any evidence that it was possible to make phone calls from planes in 2001. Let me help you John.
It was possible- many planes had onboard phones attached to the seats. I have personally been on flights with these "magic phones "
Obvious really for anyone with common sense who has "researched " the subject.

You still haven't bothered to answer the most simple question.
What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11.
Report Dr Crippen April 30, 2019 8:20 PM BST
We were all taken for a ride that's what happened on 9/11.
Report Charlie May 1, 2019 7:03 PM BST
Looks like JWH is not a man of his word and wont answer any questions. Reminds me of somebody else.
Report detraveller May 5, 2019 11:11 AM BST

Apr 30, 2019 -- 7:56PM, detraveller wrote:


Also he lied about no phones in planes. Hasn't responded to that despite being told the first phones in planes were intalled in 1984.


Still no response.

Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 11:21 AM BST
I will give you a reponse dog breathe, back in 2001 a mobile phone wouldn't have been able to have worked at 30,000 ft or whtever height they fly at so how the hell could that work? Answers on a postcard. My question to you trolls is....how could WTC7 come down exactly like the other two without a lot of assistance? And how did the BBC reporter know is was coming down half an hour before it did.?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 11:29 AM BST
Crisis actors acting as flight crew made the calls from a hanger, so what happened to the poor devils passengers on the phone? They have to got rid of of course so did they really die? Gassed maybe?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 11:30 AM BST
* for phone read plane.
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 11:50 AM BST
Terry

In 2001 passenger planes had phones on board.
These could be used by passengers to make phone calls. The unreliable service of mobile network at 8km high is not relevant if passengers used the phones on the planes rather than mobile phones.

The calls were made to wives/ children etc. It seems unlikely that actors would be able to mimic the voice of a doomed passenger to fool his wife .

And of course zero evidence to back up this theory Terry
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:04 PM BST
Its boll0cks
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:05 PM BST
HOW COULD WTC7 COME DOWN? Answer the question.
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 12:11 PM BST
Asking yet more questions while refusing to answer the most basic of questions addressed to you.

WT7 is an irrelevant sideshow- it really does not matter.
But to answer your question

I don't really care my money would be on gravity being the force applied to a damaged structure.


The story is that 4 planes were crashed on 9/11. The loons want to talk about anything else.

What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11?
We're holograms used to crash into twin towers?

Why are you accusing innocent people of murder -
Report Charlie May 5, 2019 12:11 PM BST

May 5, 2019 -- 12:04PM, terry mccann wrote:


Its boll0cks


Why is it bollocks?

Report Mexico May 5, 2019 12:12 PM BST
Terry

Are you saying that planes did not have phones on board in 2001?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:15 PM BST
How did WTC 7 come down? Answer the qustion dummy, if you wont maybe ,just maybe people might think you the expert might have something to hide.
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:16 PM BST
Who are these "innocent people" you are talking about?
Report Charlie May 5, 2019 12:17 PM BST
I take it you now realise that calls could be made from plane phones? If not why not? One thing at a time.
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 12:21 PM BST
Terry

I have answered your irrelevant question
WTC7 is an irrelevant sideshow

I believe it collapsed when the force of gravity was applied to a damaged structure.


Whe keep asking irrelevant questions but refuse to answer the most basic questions

What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11? Holograms? Magic aliens? Men in black memory removals?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:22 PM BST
"Passengers" on the plane somehow phoned "loved ones" on their mobile phones when flying on the fated plane only back in 01 that was impossible to do at that height,so they must have been made whilst on the ground by "crisis actors" that what im saying.
Back to WTC7, how did it come down?
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 12:22 PM BST
Terry

You constantly post lies.

Phones existed on planes in 2001.
Do some basic research.
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:23 PM BST
Its very important " a "sideshow"Laugh. Yeah I bet it is
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 12:24 PM BST
Terry

Once again there is no link to your lies about phone calls.

There were phones on the planes. Forget about mobile phones- the planes had phones on board
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:25 PM BST
Its a fact,MOBILE PHONES BACK IN 2001 WOULD NOT WORKED AT THAT HEIGHT.
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:27 PM BST
"Passengers" phoned on MOBILE PHONES. NOT POSSIBLE mex.
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:29 PM BST
How did WTC7 come down,how did the BBC reporter know half an hour before it did mex?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 12:39 PM BST
See if someone in the "office" can give you some advice as to how to handle the question "HOW DID WTC7 COME DOWN" mex, its actually a very important thing not a mere "sideshow". You would love to sweep it under the carpet mex I know.
Report Charlie May 5, 2019 12:47 PM BST
tm
Are you saying that there were no plane phones - otherwise known as Airphones or Airfones - in 2001?
Report Just Checking May 5, 2019 1:36 PM BST
lol :)
Report edy May 5, 2019 1:43 PM BST

May 5, 2019 -- 12:25PM, terry mccann wrote:


Its a fact,MOBILE PHONES BACK IN 2001 WOULD NOT WORKED AT THAT HEIGHT.


Terry, Mexico is talking about phones that were part of the plane's equipment, not private mobile phones of passengers.

Report edy May 5, 2019 1:45 PM BST
i.e this stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfone
Report edy May 5, 2019 1:50 PM BST

May 5, 2019 -- 12:39PM, terry mccann wrote:


See if someone in the "office" can give you some advice as to how to handle the question "HOW DID WTC7 COME DOWN" mex, its actually a very important thing not a mere "sideshow". You would love to sweep it under the carpet mex I know.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48BWDeBLno

Report Just Checking May 5, 2019 1:51 PM BST
LOl. Facts. 9/11. Terry Tinfoil.

Are there instructions or should I just "stand well back"?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 2:04 PM BST
How did WTC7 come down all on this lonesome not checking? You don't know and you don't care,horrid little smelly creature.
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 3:41 PM BST
Terry

I have answered your irrelevant WTC7 question twice.

You have failed to answer any questions.

Are you even aware that the planes had phones on board which passengers could use?
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 5:05 PM BST
mex, tell the people what the Firemen heard going off before the Twin Towers came down, BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! Theres a good chap.
Report terry mccann May 5, 2019 5:06 PM BST
O they are lying too then!
Report Mexico May 5, 2019 6:32 PM BST
Terry

You fail to answer any simple questions yet keep asking irrelevant questions which are then answered.

Are you aware there were phones on planes in 2001?


What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11???????????
Report Charlie May 5, 2019 8:07 PM BST
It's pointless talking to tm, JWH and Crappin (who are probably the same person) as they can't answer questions. They just troll for the sake of it.

I think I'll start a thread with tm's insults. Could be a long one.
Report detraveller May 5, 2019 10:36 PM BST
Pretty much useless yes.

In the early days it was fun to talk to terry and listen to his theories. Then John came along and he 'researched' everything before making his opinion. But always sided with terry at the end.

But now it is not even funny anymore.
Report Charlie May 22, 2019 6:36 PM BST
Why has JWH done a runner from this thread? Now posting same repetitive rubbish on G5 thread.
Report terry mccann May 22, 2019 6:44 PM BST
One of him makes 100 of you though,but then everybody does shaz
Report terry mccann May 22, 2019 6:45 PM BST
The only ones who talk rubbish on 5G is the **** above you and AI reject mex and you
Report Charlie May 23, 2019 4:12 PM BST
You mean the one's who point out why you're talking nonsense.
Report Dr Crippen May 23, 2019 4:31 PM BST
Those buildings certainly came down in a uniform manner, and finished up in a neat pile.

I don't recall even the great late Fred Dibnah doing a job as tidy as that.
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