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he speaks sense sometimes, mouse. He is on the the plank (as in walking the) list
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when you think of decent people who voted to leave like many on the left and good socialists who have no love for the EU ,but look at the likes of the ERG and have o truck with their tea party bullsh1te
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a question for you anxious; where would the Tory party be without the ERG?
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hornet the spivs are divided by europe , chairman may may i think is a one nation tory not like the lunatics on the far right
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i must add that labour is divided on Europe too
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there is no far right; don't believe the hype. I don't believe there is a far left in the Labour Party, do you?
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The Left are very suspicious of the EU and rightly so
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No i agree the media like to play the game , i mean Jeremy is not very left wing i dont think
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we all should be. There has been trouble for 40 years from both sides of the divide with the EU, anxious. One should never forget that. There is work afoot trying to split everyone, divide & conquer? Time to get together imo, when the nutcase is sitting in a deckchair that is
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you know the game hornet divide and conquer , this this is the ruling class and their motives
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so if your on the left or the right you are fooked
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The Internationale unites the human race
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tbh i haven't got a clue where i sit at the mo, anxious
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been renamed LOREG
LACK OF RESEARCH EUROPEAN GROUP |
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LORGEG, 1st TP, just add & guts
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European
Guessers Group |
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The chair wizard to be henceforth addressed as egghead.
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I see he didnt answer the question.
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at it again regards polls
those who voted leave outside of London,scotland,wales,ireland narrow majority favour no deal which the ERG loons are allowed to go on tv unchallenged to say majority of uk favours leaving on no deal,when actualy its about 25% at best ![]() |
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i would dispute that 1st TP; we can't jump from one extreme to another. Which is why i said "close" The fact is, & it is fact is that the MSM never acknowledge any majority in favour, no matter what poll. That, is not unbiased reporting & i have already complained to IPSO & Ofcom
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and of course theres a world of difference between what the ERG and their lemmings think no deal entails and what no deal might actually mean
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it's not just the ERG who say it, 1st TP it doesn't matter who says it, it gets squashed & ridiculed by whoever is doing an interview - report - copy etc
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Kate Hoey said it a couple of weeks ago & Boulton barely let her say one syllable after "leave" before dismissing her comment as "ludicrous"
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many of the ERG have huge overseas investments, they aint the patriots they claim to be.
crashing the economy works for them |
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ah another "crashing" devotee. Maybe that word should be the new name for a 3rd Party? I'm sure it's coverage would be immense!
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cash from chaos
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i've heard similar reasons given for 'remain' MPs who want to stay in the EU. Bizarre
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but that doesn't make sense as there was no chaos
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monetary reasons
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who does volatility in the economy work for? Not for the average punter that's for sure.
stop doing the ground work for them |
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since when are MPs with business interests abroad "average punters"
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that was kinda my point
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yes from one side; & my point was the 'other' side has been accused of that as well, having 'interests' to protect
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Whatever you think of the ERG - you have to admire what they have achieved.
That you can be worth $100m+ (Walter the Softy) mostly through inheritance & marriage, advocate massive tax avoidance, be educated at Eton/Oxford before working as a spiv in the city. I cannot think of a more privileged representation of "the establishment" - so to then convince many ordinary working class people that you are a man of the people and the anti-establishment solution to their anger with the establishment - that takes some proper cunning. However odious you find them, you have to admire their ability to manipulate the facts and to manipulate (very disillusioned and discontented) people. Persuading 50.3% of turkeys to vote for Christmas is some achievement - then again it's a lot easier to manipulate that many middle class and working class people if you have first spent the best part of 30 years inflicting your ideologies upon them to fuel their anger and discontent. |
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Priti rather tied up with the problems with our railway round here lately
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IMO crashing out and not knowing what will happen over the next few years
is better than staying in and not knowing what will happen over the next few years As the EU have not shown any plan of action for the next 5 years (or if they have it not been easily visable) and we could stay in and have a vote but we most probably lose these when everybody else gangs up. |
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George Galloway also supports a clean Brexit. Funny that, I'm trying to work out what he has in common with the ERG. A respect for democracy perhaps?
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Ah Gorgeous George - one of the most eloquent and impressive orators in his prime - total fruit loop in recent years but still a very impressive orator. The Leave campaign clearly made the better argument. They had all the best orators, were better coordinated, organised, funded etc and the oxymoronic slogan "Take Back Control" was undoubtedly decisive coupled with their relentless fixation on immigration.
As I said, I admire their "achievements" against the backdrop of logic - but history shows it's actually quite easy to whip a crowd into a frenzy if the crowd is already feeling angry, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised. It's the standard formula to use a smokescreen or scapegoat to divert attention away from the fact that you are responsible for having angered, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised them in the first place. Either way - if you honestly think the spivs in the ERG have any respect for democracy or would even give the steam off their p!ss to anyone outside their little club - I am embarrassed for you. |
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so would it be wise to make a crowd feel even more "angry, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised." Add to that the MSM agenda & you have one helluva problem in the upcoming
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Indeed - luckily we have BoJo's water-cannons and a couple of dozen police still employed on the streets. It'll be ok won't it?
Do they even sell yellow vest at Savile Row? |