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By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 00:10
he speaks sense sometimes, mouse. He is on the the plank (as in walking the) list
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:15
when you think of decent people who voted to leave like many on the left and good socialists who have no love for the EU ,but look at the likes of the ERG and have o truck with their tea party bullsh1te
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 00:24
a question for you anxious; where would the Tory party be without the ERG?
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:30
hornet the spivs are divided by europe , chairman may may i think is a one nation tory not like the lunatics on the far right
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:32
i must add that labour is divided on Europe too
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 00:32
there is no far right; don't believe the hype. I don't believe there is a far left in the Labour Party, do you?
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:33
The Left are very suspicious of the EU and rightly so
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:34
No i agree the media like to play the game , i mean Jeremy is not very left wing i dont think
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 00:36
we all should be. There has been trouble for 40 years from both sides of the divide with the EU, anxious. One should never forget that. There is work afoot trying to split everyone, divide & conquer? Time to get together imo, when the nutcase is sitting in a deckchair that is
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:42
you know the game hornet divide and conquer , this this is the ruling class and their motives
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:42
so if your on the left or the right you are fooked
By:
anxious
When: 06 Apr 19 00:44
The Internationale unites the human race
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 00:47
tbh i haven't got a clue where i sit at the mo, anxious
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Apr 19 10:51
been renamed  LOREG

LACK OF RESEARCH EUROPEAN GROUP
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 12:01
LORGEG, 1st TP, just add & guts
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Apr 19 12:07
European
Guessers
Group
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Apr 19 12:08
The chair wizard to be henceforth addressed as egghead.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Apr 19 12:36
I see he didnt answer the question.
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Apr 19 12:49
at it again regards polls
those who voted leave
outside of London,scotland,wales,ireland
narrow majority favour no deal

which the ERG loons are allowed to go on tv unchallenged to say majority of uk favours leaving on no deal,when actualy its about 25% at best Laugh
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 12:57
i would dispute that 1st TP; we can't jump from one extreme to another. Which is why i said "close" The fact is, & it is fact is that the MSM never acknowledge any majority in favour, no matter what poll. That, is not unbiased reporting & i have already complained to IPSO & Ofcom
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Apr 19 13:08
and of course theres a world of difference between what the ERG and their lemmings think no deal entails and what no deal might actually mean
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 13:13
it's not just the ERG who say it, 1st TP it doesn't matter who says it, it gets squashed & ridiculed by whoever is doing an interview - report - copy etc
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 13:18
Kate Hoey said it a couple of weeks ago & Boulton barely let her say one syllable after "leave" before dismissing her comment as "ludicrous"
By:
northanlite
When: 06 Apr 19 13:20
many of the ERG have huge overseas investments, they aint the patriots they claim to be.
crashing the economy works for them
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 13:25
ah another "crashing" devotee. Maybe that word should be the new name for a 3rd Party? I'm sure it's coverage would be immense!
By:
northanlite
When: 06 Apr 19 13:29
cash from chaos
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 13:37
i've heard similar reasons given for 'remain' MPs who want to stay in the EU. Bizarre
By:
northanlite
When: 06 Apr 19 13:48
but that doesn't make sense as there was no chaos
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 13:54
monetary reasons
By:
northanlite
When: 06 Apr 19 13:58
who does volatility in the economy work for? Not for the average punter that's for sure.
stop doing the ground work for them
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 14:02
since when are MPs with business interests abroad "average punters"
By:
northanlite
When: 06 Apr 19 14:09
that was kinda my point
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 14:35
yes from one side; & my point was the 'other' side has been accused of that as well, having 'interests' to protect
By:
The Management
When: 06 Apr 19 14:52
Whatever you think of the ERG - you have to admire what they have achieved.

That you can be worth $100m+ (Walter the Softy) mostly through inheritance & marriage, advocate massive tax avoidance, be educated at Eton/Oxford before working as a spiv in the city. I cannot think of a more privileged representation of "the establishment" - so to then convince many ordinary working class people that you are a man of the people and the anti-establishment solution to their anger with the establishment - that takes some proper cunning.

However odious you find them, you have to admire their ability to manipulate the facts and to manipulate (very disillusioned and discontented) people. Persuading 50.3% of turkeys to vote for Christmas is some achievement - then again it's a lot easier to manipulate that many middle class and working class people if you have first spent the best part of 30 years inflicting your ideologies upon them to fuel their anger and discontent.
By:
wit-ham
When: 06 Apr 19 15:07
Priti rather tied up with the problems with our railway round here lately
By:
wit-ham
When: 06 Apr 19 15:13
IMO crashing out and not knowing what will happen over the next few years
is better than staying in and not knowing what will happen over the next few years

As the EU have not shown any plan of action for the next 5 years (or if they have it not been easily visable)
and we could stay in and have a vote but we most probably lose these
when everybody else gangs up.
By:
Foinavon
When: 06 Apr 19 15:26
George Galloway also supports a clean Brexit. Funny that, I'm trying to work out what he has in common with the ERG. A respect for democracy perhaps?
By:
The Management
When: 06 Apr 19 16:01
Ah Gorgeous George - one of the most eloquent and impressive orators in his prime - total fruit loop in recent years but still a very impressive orator. The Leave campaign clearly made the better argument. They had all the best orators, were better coordinated, organised, funded etc and the oxymoronic slogan "Take Back Control" was undoubtedly decisive coupled with their relentless fixation on immigration.

As I said, I admire their "achievements" against the backdrop of logic - but history shows it's actually quite easy to whip a crowd into a frenzy if the crowd is already feeling angry, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised. It's the standard formula to use a smokescreen or scapegoat to divert attention away from the fact that you are responsible for having angered, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised them in the first place. 

Either way - if you honestly think the spivs in the ERG have any respect for democracy or would even give the steam off their p!ss to anyone outside their little club - I am embarrassed for you.
By:
Baphornet
When: 06 Apr 19 16:06
so would it be wise to make a crowd feel even more "angry, robbed, cheated, ignored and marginalised." Add to that the MSM agenda & you have one helluva problem in the upcoming
By:
The Management
When: 06 Apr 19 16:11
Indeed - luckily we have BoJo's water-cannons and a couple of dozen police still employed on the streets. It'll be ok won't it?

Do they even sell yellow vest at Savile Row?
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