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24 Mar 19
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"MP"s were issued an instruction by the British people.Given the Byzantine complexity of the Brexit process,it would be foolish to pretend it was a simple one. but it was clear.They were to withdraw the UK from the European Union."
"They refused.Granted 1,000 days to reach consensus on an exit strategy,they had neither the competence nor the courage nor the foresight nor the sense of national duty to construct one"
"Brexit is dead" the Minister told me."Some rebels might start to come round,but its too late. On monday the House of Commons will take control of the process and then its over"
"Brexit was supposed to be a moment of national catharis,instead,it is about to go down as the greatest fraud ever prepetrated upon the British people.Everything they were promised before,during and after was a lie,one vote and that vote would be honoured"
"They refused.Granted 1,000 days to reach consensus on an exit strategy,they had neither the competence nor the courage nor the foresight nor the sense of national duty to construct one"
"Brexit is dead" the Minister told me."Some rebels might start to come round,but its too late. On monday the House of Commons will take control of the process and then its over"
"Brexit was supposed to be a moment of national catharis,instead,it is about to go down as the greatest fraud ever prepetrated upon the British people.Everything they were promised before,during and after was a lie,one vote and that vote would be honoured"
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Whoever May picks as next Prime Minister,one thing is for sure and that's she didn't decide she was told
I don't like the woman personally. But she did everything she possibly could to get a deal done by the 29th March.... one of the reasons why I don't like her! She pissed me off when she triggered Article 50 before the election.
500 Mps voted to trigger Article 50. Now they want to cancel Brexit. They really are uselless twunts.
The bottom line is, you have to take polls with a pinch of salt, and when it comes to betting, use them are your own peril imo.
if they seriously pick Gove time to emigrate, made a complete mess of the education job nearly causing a complete teachers revolt,then destroyed the prison service if he is chosen this country will sink like the Titanic.
Never going to be easy to agree to do something stupid.
The bonus with Gove - is the steadying influence and intellect that his wife would bring to the table, plus she and Melania would make a lovely photo on any state visit.
Thinks he knows everything when he doesn't. Very dangerous
Unlike Corbyn. Corbyn is thick and doesn't listen to anyone but Seamus Milne. Which is even more dangerous
the thing is May cant see it f...s up everything he is put in charge of then when it becomes embarrassing is moved to another post.
is Corbyn thick? he's a weak leader, but he's managed to get millions who voted remain to vote for someone who is Pro Brexit, that's himself lol.
"is Corbyn thick? he's a weak leader, but he's managed to get millions who voted remain to vote for someone who is Pro Brexit, that's himself lol."
Says more about the intelligence of people who vote for Corbyn than the POS himself!
Says more about the intelligence of people who vote for Corbyn than the POS himself!
Yeah, I now wish I'd made myself look clever by voting for a strong and decisive leader such as May instead.
When you only have two options and they are both very unattractive - somebody still has to win.
You could frame a 2 horse race over 7f for 9yo maidens - there would still be a winner.
Difference is - you don't have to bet on the horse race and if you don't bet it has no impact on your life.
You could frame a 2 horse race over 7f for 9yo maidens - there would still be a winner.
Difference is - you don't have to bet on the horse race and if you don't bet it has no impact on your life.
Jezza got two E grades at A-level and only lasted a year at London Metropolitan University, which is the lowest ranked University in the UK. Intellectually he's totally out of his depth.
That said I imagine his relationship with Seamus Milne is similar to Orville The Duck's relationship to Keith Harris.
That said I imagine his relationship with Seamus Milne is similar to Orville The Duck's relationship to Keith Harris.
The bloke who succeeded Thatcher had three O-levels. Jezza is an intellectual heavyweight compared to him. A pity we can't bump the threads that were singing his praises at the time!
It's the very highly educated idiots you have to watch out for. Heir to the throne a classic, had the very best education that money can buy but clueless on anything that matters in real life.
I'm not a republican btw - just couldn't think of a better example in the public eye. Worked with plenty of them.
It is the lowest ranked Uni in the UK - today, I don't think Corbyn left in 2019, it was some 40 years ago. Anyone that get's 2 E's clearly wasn't trying, I've read he didn't like the authoritarianism and bullying at the school he went to and was going through the motions til he left. Blair is all A-level'd up, or O'leveled, his name is toxic today.
Considering his education Prince Charles' academic results are very average.
If you were bright you'd do better than that not trying. Who knows whether he was trying or not. Plenty of people couldn't get two E's even if they wer trying their hardest.
So his excuse at school was it was too authoritarian and his excuse at University was ....?
yep - highly educated - idiot.
Lots of them in middle management where they can't do too much damage but occasionally one slips through the net and that deadly combination - a sense of entitlement, totally misplaced self-confidence and total ignorance of real life, will cause total destruction.
Lots of them in middle management where they can't do too much damage but occasionally one slips through the net and that deadly combination - a sense of entitlement, totally misplaced self-confidence and total ignorance of real life, will cause total destruction.
Corbyns not and never has been pro Brexit , he’s determined if possible to keep us in
I guess at 70 Corbyn could've proved his intellectual competence in a range of ministerial positions.... Oh hang on, he hasn't had any.
Corbyn is pro BREXIT, or is it Seamus Milne that is pro BREXIT and Corbyn just goes along with whatever Seamus says? Could be that Corbyn is not pro BREXIT and Seamus Milne is and Milne has played him like a fiddle. His behaviour if he is pro BREXIT, were that of a man who is totally incompetent.
No Corbyn is leader and has never done anything in his life that he didn’t want to do
That’s his character and personality for the last 60 years
He us a remainer and will try and overturn the referendum result
That’s his character and personality for the last 60 years
He us a remainer and will try and overturn the referendum result
His behaviour if he is pro BREXIT, were that of a man who is totally incompetent.
Of course I meant pro remain and not prpo BREXIT in that sentence
Of course I meant pro remain and not prpo BREXIT in that sentence
Jeremy has been anti EU most of his life i believe , think though for a moment he is on a difficult position a lot of Labour mps are Remain but a lot of Labour voters especially in the midlands and north of England voted to leave
You sound a bit like a snob clydebank,with all due respect, plenty of intelligent people with no qualifications, many of them millionaires, some people have been to the university of life, Corbyn's always been in touch with grass roots politics and how real people live, couldn't really do that for years being cabinet or shadow cabinet member, to busy being whipped and doing as you're told.
"Executive Director of Strategy and Communications" - i suppose politics is a business of sorts. In my experience people in this role have ruined many a good business. Usually start of strong and popular, seen as a saviour then disappear with hefty pension and knighthood when their strategy fails.
Brexit is not a left /right issue its more complex than that , although some of the tory fanboys cannot fathom that out for some reason
It doesn’t matter how intelligent. or not he might be
His character is seriously flawed , we can see that clearly now over Brexit
His character is seriously flawed , we can see that clearly now over Brexit
Corbyn is privately educated I believe scandi, unlike me, who went to a pretty bad school and got a first class degree. There are some bright people with few qualifications, but not many
lfc wind your neck in waffling on about Jeremy , get a fookin grip man ffs
BREXIT is not a left/right issue, although the EU and EU law helps fight against the global trend towards the widening of the wealth gap and protects workers' rights which is obviously more in line with Labour philosophy.
Unfortunately as the result in Ebbw Vale shows many people who voted are completely ignorant to that.
Unfortunately as the result in Ebbw Vale shows many people who voted are completely ignorant to that.
How can anybody say they admire Chairman may , called an election lost majority , said i will deliver brexit blah blah ?
She has delivered Brexit , vote for her deal and we are out of the EU , the sm. , cu , and stopped freedom of movement
I admire her for respecting the referendum , and I despise Corbyn for not
I admire her for respecting the referendum , and I despise Corbyn for not
Ifc,i know ive said it 43 times but "you can check out anytime you like,back you can never leave" sums it up perfectly
Well we can put the blame where it lies , with Corbyn and labour and the liberals and the snp
delivered brexit i dont think so , the swivel eyed loons like bulinngdon , rees - fogg , backstabber gove cannot accept compromise
I don't like Theresa May. But it was the smart call (a no brainer really) for her to call an election to get BREXIT through when she made it. It didn't work out that way, just like it didn't work out for Man City against Wigan in the Cup Final. Sometimes the percentage call goes against you.
Labour are fudging hoping for an election, and no deal supporters are hoping that by blocking all attempts to get a deal through they might end up with no deal, and the LDs and SNP position is clear. So she had no chance.
Labour are fudging hoping for an election, and no deal supporters are hoping that by blocking all attempts to get a deal through they might end up with no deal, and the LDs and SNP position is clear. So she had no chance.
Hate to say it but anxious does have a point at 9:19.
How many times has she screwed up?
How many times has she screwed up?
Quite right, CLYDE.
we should judge the decision and not the outcome.
we should judge the decision and not the outcome.
Unlike the clown Cameron gambling on a referendum. That was a dumb call.
Calling the referendum could have been a bad call with a good outcome ... we still don’t know yet.
Racing good evening , what a shambles we have before us now
i think this week we will now have several different votes and amendments , none of which may get a majority 
Guys think Ireland and then Denmark,both voted out but it never happened,dont you think its a bit odd the same is going to happed to the UK?
if that happens, anxious then the nutcase will say she was spot on about the MPs in her 5 minutes of venom last week
Hornet she is now like a prisoner in a cell , she does not have many moves left
because she has been so stubborn and refusing to compromise she has dug her own grave
i Voted to leave but i was not fanatical about it , not everything is black and white
Personally, I think we will leave. If you can persuade the no deal supporters in he Tory ranks to be pragmatic, perhaps by May leaving, there will just about be enough support to squeeze a deal through.
I worry about anyone that was/is fanatical either way. It offered many very good things and many very bad. If you weren't conflicted you probably didn't fully understand it. Your chances of fully understanding it were always then going to be minimal once the campaigning started.
Not trying to patronise, it's exactly as you say it - not black and white.
Not trying to patronise, it's exactly as you say it - not black and white.
we will leave alright. No-one, even the nutcase will revoke article 50.
i'd be quite happy with Ref 2 or a GE. Ref 2 & a bigger hammering awaits for the remain crew. GE & the nutcase can't contest
i'd be quite happy with Ref 2 or a GE. Ref 2 & a bigger hammering awaits for the remain crew. GE & the nutcase can't contest
Anyone fancy a "soft" Brexit, leave but still got to answer to the bastards, I have a horrible feeling that's the way it will end up--totally bloody pointless and that stitch up.
"PARLIAMENT has been accused of passing a "dangerous" amendment that will "upend the balance between our democratic institutions"by the Government".
The statement was released after MP"s voted to seize control of the House of Commons agenda and force a series of "indicative" votes on Brexit options.The Brexit outcomes to be considered will include revoking Article 50,holding a second EU membership referendum and a softer exit that would see the UK remain within the Customs Union".
The statement was released after MP"s voted to seize control of the House of Commons agenda and force a series of "indicative" votes on Brexit options.The Brexit outcomes to be considered will include revoking Article 50,holding a second EU membership referendum and a softer exit that would see the UK remain within the Customs Union".
Still think this is going to get through despite everything that's happened
May just wont go will she, and now there's support from the ERG
"stitch up" indeed, May wont be seen again after this, she'll resign quicker than anything.
May just wont go will she, and now there's support from the ERG
"stitch up" indeed, May wont be seen again after this, she'll resign quicker than anything.
"indicative votes could help get May's deal through"
So now they are trying a different tact to get it through. Soon it will be a house whipping, you have to vote in favour of it ffs
Absolutely pathetic what they are trying to do, its not even hiding it ffs
So now they are trying a different tact to get it through. Soon it will be a house whipping, you have to vote in favour of it ffs
Absolutely pathetic what they are trying to do, its not even hiding it ffs
"why there must be, and cannot be an election"
What are they trying to do? is it international dumb day or something?
What are they trying to do? is it international dumb day or something?
alright wasn't the smartest thing to say but don't see where she was wrong when she said parliament has basically taken against the people
a large number of MPs have been actively trying to sabotage/block brexit since day 1 and plenty of others would do so too if they thought they could away with it without much political damage to themselves or their party
a large number of MPs have been actively trying to sabotage/block brexit since day 1 and plenty of others would do so too if they thought they could away with it without much political damage to themselves or their party
May sabotaged it with the pathetic way she handled it
A remainer comes in, calls an election, does nothing during the election campaign and then loses the majority, weakens her hand in "negotiations" in the process
She's scum
A remainer comes in, calls an election, does nothing during the election campaign and then loses the majority, weakens her hand in "negotiations" in the process
She's scum
Red 2 is a free go for the remainers
If they win Brexit cancelled and like the honest
goodwilled people we are we accept it.
If leave wins again nothing gets done as you still
have the same MP's in parliarment
A woman freind of mine who is security at HOC
says the remainer mp's but especially the Lords are making it
as slow as poss by just doing same speeches over and over again.
If they win Brexit cancelled and like the honest
goodwilled people we are we accept it.
If leave wins again nothing gets done as you still
have the same MP's in parliarment
A woman freind of mine who is security at HOC
says the remainer mp's but especially the Lords are making it
as slow as poss by just doing same speeches over and over again.
She lost 13 seats when she held an election. The irony is when she saw an opportunity to increase her lead and push her BREXIT deal through, she actually ended up losing it
She should've held the election during student exam weeks. Easy to get complacent when the opposition is so weak.
I don't see why the LDs and SNP should support it when they think it's a daft idea tbh. And I think the public who thought it would be simple to leave, which appears plenty going by polling, have had a reality check
I might be wrong here, but I think the odds on BREXIT happening are shorter now than after the referendum. That would imply TM has done a good job, despite a decreased majority, of getting BREXIT through. Certainly that's my thinking as a remainer. The horrible woman has done everything in her powers to get a deal through. It's Labour that's blocked it
Its going to be "Customs Union time,so we leave in name only,so the elite get want they want,our money and total control over us,wot a f ucking joke!
The Remainers will soon realise even they have no say, no voice but live under a dictatorship. We really do need to put on our yellow vests.
General Election now inevitable.
Prole pretender Corbyn will be next PM in a coalition.Labour will campaign on manifesto which will guarantee a 2nd Referendum,as will Lib Dems, SNP and others,this is how it ends.The UK will never leave.
Prole pretender Corbyn will be next PM in a coalition.Labour will campaign on manifesto which will guarantee a 2nd Referendum,as will Lib Dems, SNP and others,this is how it ends.The UK will never leave.
terry mccann
All it takes is civil disobedience, downing tools over there, stopping planes taking off over that way etc etc
But people haven't the brains for that, the best most efficient way of getting heard is to hit them in the pockets, stop public transport, bring the motorways to a complete standstill, stop the tankers filling up the petrol stations, start closing down banks, stuff like that
And when it starts effecting the shelf's in the supermarkets people will be quick to demand resignations trust me
But like I said no one has the brains for that, instead they'll burn a few buildings down, throw a few rocks and that'll be that
All it takes is civil disobedience, downing tools over there, stopping planes taking off over that way etc etc
But people haven't the brains for that, the best most efficient way of getting heard is to hit them in the pockets, stop public transport, bring the motorways to a complete standstill, stop the tankers filling up the petrol stations, start closing down banks, stuff like that
And when it starts effecting the shelf's in the supermarkets people will be quick to demand resignations trust me
But like I said no one has the brains for that, instead they'll burn a few buildings down, throw a few rocks and that'll be that
By stopping fuel tankers getting into the country you immediately cut off an arm to the police, no petrol = no cop cars/vans etc, 
The army will be running low on fuel, no tanks/water cannons etc
Fight smart
The army will be running low on fuel, no tanks/water cannons etc
Fight smart
But like I said, we'll get a few nights of only fools and horses style rioting and that'll be that
Cops/Army will quickly disperse all the rioters through nothing more than sheer brute force and tiredness
Because they will stand there waiting to be trampled on
Cops/Army will quickly disperse all the rioters through nothing more than sheer brute force and tiredness
Because they will stand there waiting to be trampled on
Or like the good folk of Sunderland(a few anyway)refuse to pay council tax
Angela in dublin,hope she's not planning for 30,000 german troops standing on the european border on the 13th april,it use to be called the irish border but now in the last few days they are calling it the EU border.
The EU have cherry picked Ireland im told,lend them money,cant buy it back so take everything worth having,what a delightful bunch-not!
Sold down the river by all parties. When I see old footage of Corbyn slagging off the EU and all that it stand for, my blood boils. Bejaysus,I thought he was the worlds most principled man ffs. You're right Terry. A right fekking stitch up.
Don't even think they will have a 2nd ref now as they cant chance the UK would vote out again.
10,000 old bill on stand by when the big day finally arrives and whatever you do don't shout out "traitor" when protesting as you will be banged up im told
10,000 old bill on stand by when the big day finally arrives and whatever you do don't shout out "traitor" when protesting as you will be banged up im told
Well they are?
10,000 old bill all in one place? what about the other places around the country?
10,000 old bill all in one place? what about the other places around the country?
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