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The Vote is at 7:00
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Well you know, you have to put the time in, and yeah sometimes you are gonna get took out by the insiders, but still the best game in town.
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Did you land a big coup off the laddies?
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40 bags
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As I say I've had a wee bit on the Alton lass, I'm not a big political bettor but made a few £ trading the trump wave, also made a tenner putting 1k on Pootin at 1.01
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Do tell about the 40 bag coup
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As salaam alaikum.
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between you and I, no one will jump on you here like they do on the proven bullsheeters on hr, I do take you to be a man of your word.
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mouse; i know how the game works, pitfalls & such but it got to the stage when everything i did went wrong. I'm not going to bemoan it all on here now, suffice to say if there was a sheep in Ireland who fancied doing a step dance; it would be my horse he would choos to do it in front of. Or some jockey fancied jumping off one turning it at Hexham
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OK, I'm turning in soon, maybe pm me about the 40 bag coup later, sounds interesting, I won't divulge any details anywhere, I am an honourable fellow.
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it was regarding Trump; nominations & White House
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g'nite mouse, i'm still running on the baseball
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Current position is
Yvette Cooper18.64£35.09£619.12 £35.09 But while we reckon it's still massive value we can't chase it down further because the liquidity is so thin. |
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gnite nearly bedtime here too
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well definitely as the clock has just run an hour fo'ward
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peace Mr Giggilo
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i've been slow stepping a couple of exchanges mouse
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all these loons,charlatans have been threatening to quit cabinet FOR 2 YEARS,
threatening to quit cabinet in one breath and saying general election over my dead body in another breath are incompatible statements but lapped up by the only group of people more incompetent than mp,s lazy ,cluless journo,s to interested in chasing unicorn scoops rather than sitting down thinking about the shoite mp,s spout and questioning them deeply on their comments, most of the cabinet are invisible and only come to public light when they foook something up,who,d miss mourdant Bradley leadsome fox gaulk grayling rudd hancock could all happily walk into a central London pub and be totally oblivious to the public |
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i'd be mortified if any of the current Cabinet got the top job
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DDay tomorrow; Peston - who as usual says a lot:
Some allies of the prime minister are desperate for a majority of MPs to back Ken Clarke’s motion to keep the UK in the customs union, at the close of round two of the Letwin process of the Commons bossing the government, Monday night. Yes you heard me right. They want MPs to vote for a plan that would drive a coach and whole herd of horses through the Tory election manifesto and would cleave the Conservative Party in two. To be clear, these are not ministers and officials who themselves are keen for the UK to agree a deal with the EU that would remove the requirement for customs checks to be reintroduced after Brexit. Au contraire. But they hope if it becomes the revealed will of the Commons to negotiate that kind of so-called soft Brexit - one which would keep the UK under the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and would prohibit the negotiation of trade deals with non-EU countries - that would be the perfect platform for the prime minister to put her own Brexit deal back to the Commons for a record-breaking fourth time - on Tuesday. The PM and her advisers (or at least some of them) assume, not unreasonably, that perhaps another 15 Tory Brexiter MPs could be scared into voting for the EU Withdrawal Agreement if they could see that the conspicuous alternative would be a customs-union-based Brexit-in-name-only. If only 15 Labour MPs could be converted into supporters too, her deal would scrape though at this spectacularly late juncture - and that might happen if the PM were to write into the body of her latest meaningful-vote motion the essence of the amendment laid last week by the Labour MPs Gareth Snell and Lisa Nandy. I am reliably told the PM will incorporate the Snell/Nandy plan, which would empower MPs to shape negotiations on the future relationship with the EU, partly because she needs Labour votes and also because the Speaker will only sanction a motion from May that is substantially different from previous ones. Obviously it would be almost a slam dunk for Theresa May if the DUP’s 10 MPs could cease their opposition to the Withdrawal Agreement - maybe there is still a way for the DUP to aid the PM’s dunking. But to be clear, unlike Tory Brexiters, DUP MPs won’t be terrified by the prospect of the UK staying in the customs union, because that would in practice turn the backstop they hate from putative trap into the bridge the EU always hoped it would be. For the DUP staying in the customs union could be associated with finding a way to meet their demand that there should be no new regulatory wedge between Northern Ireland and GB. So please don’t laugh but just maybe we are two days away from the PM’s Brexit deal being ratified - which would mean (probably) the UK leaving the EU on May 22 (ministers are confident May 22 would be reinstated by the EU as Brexit day in those circumstances). And if it doesn’t pass at this fourth attempt, well then we are into mega crisis territory because at that juncture the PM would be mandated by MPs to negotiate with the EU a customs-union-based Brexit. If she were to agree to what would be heresy for most of her colleagues, Cabinet and the Tory Party would divide and crumble - if she refused, she could well face and lose a no-confidence vote. Which is why the Mrs May will have very mixed feelings about the Clarke customs-union motion being voted on in just a few hours because it is simultaneously the route to her salvation and her damnation, depending on what happens next. |
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said on another thread think pestons got this one wrong, why would the 5 labour mp,s,plus frank field and a few independents carrying on backing mrs mays deal if theres a customs union offer to be negotiated with the eu,never mind 15 new labour mp,s voting for her deal,
all may is going to add to her political deal is a half baked promise of mp,s involvement in the future and possible talks on a customs union which a new erg pm and erg dominated cabinet will set in flames before taking their seat at the cabinet table think pestons under the impression mrs may will tag a customs union on to the political declaration which she,s never going to do ,just offer it as a possible discussion point in the future which it already is for some |
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Peston says a lot, 1st TP but most of the time he's just guessing. I give him his due for sticking his head above the parapet more than most though
the nutcase has already said weeks ago she won't accept the customs union. I know she's economic with the truth but if she did accept it; then there goes the Cabinet. She's 1.01 to go for a 12 month extension - 100/1 for a GE - 1000/1 for ref2. All immaterial as it may be taken (hopefully) out of her hands |
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They've tried to pull a fast one with this one today haven't they
This is far worse than the May version because this is what Mays deal would end up as after the negotiations Expect this happens right off the bat, they are hoping people are that sick of it by now they can just sneak this c*** through the back door We keep on taking people in and yet lose the human rights act, labour want putting into the wilderness for eternity for even daring to vote this s*** through |
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Mays version is bad enough because it will end up being totally dog vomit after their "negotiations" down the line
But this is absolutely shameful this version, its a case "you're sick of it aren't you, so lets finish it today" |
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UNLOCK
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Division!!!
Kens bill might get through - just. Won't make any difference though. There are plans for a very important meeting tomorrow when blood will be spilt. Whatever happens then, will decide this outcome for me. She might well try & get her baby through on Thursday (if Bercow lets her) depending on that meeting tomorrow |
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naked woman in Central Lobby; can it be Liz?
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Javid defying the nutcase
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a massive push going on behind the scenes for a no-deal
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bluff and double bluff
who cracks first |
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If they vote through any deal involving a customs union it will be a disgrace
It will make a difference in some ways, the media can spin it as "deadlock broken", which will cause apathy or anger |
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Can we start a Bercow bingo or drinking game?
A few: ORDERRRR UNLOCK sedentary position |
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nah, they all know it means nowt. The BBC can spin it all they want, but what's going on in the corridors and lobbys is not spin
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Remain PM working for a remain goverment voting on remain subjects chosen by a remain speaker....agains 17 million people.
DISGUSTING. But we knew brexit would never be allowed... |
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talk of bringing the baby back & adding a N/C vote to it. Sounds almost suicidal & can't see it happening
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not a chance on earth they'll let her anywhere near a general election again
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you have to laugh; not one got through
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makeking; it's getting rather tiresome of reminding 'experts' of that fact. They still up until the last hour, mention her name besides an election
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A pathetic shower of Shyte the Lot of them .
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Corbyn wants to debate Clark's motion for a third time just because it was close, it doesn't even matter if it had a majority it wouldn't be binding and the government wouldn't go with it so it'd be just a waste of time. Should be settled with a second referendum now with the 3 options, remain, may deal, no deal.
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So its back to mays 4000th attempt to try and get hers through
Penalty shoot out sudden death, 1st one to get a aye vote wins it all |