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Poor loser?
The poor losers are the lads in Swindon losing their jobs. |
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Had the government made serious efforts to ready the country we'd have eased away much more smoothly, this debacle is costly and deliberate imo.
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utter deluded nonsense |
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Brexit is destroying British manufacturing before our very eyes.
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as predicted
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broken by the sky bloke clyne, mp confirmed it he and the government new about it.but was supposed to be announced tomorrow, been there myelf and its absolutely disgusting that the workforce arnt the 1st to no, no company is big enough not to treat their workers properly and with dignity, foooking shocking
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FFS they were going to tell people properly tommorow but someone leaks it to the media, but to you it's the companies fault and they are mistreating the employees?
Listen to yourself and try and join the dots..... |
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Anyone that thinks that the travails of the car industry is solely the result of brexit is guilty of very lazy thinking
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brexit has made this country the weakest link in multi-national production and we are seeing the consequences.
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There is no weak link for the Japanese , now unless you learn that little lesson then we will continue to become poorer and less secure
Which is what has been happening for the working and middle classes in Britain and Europe over the last few decades , increasingly so So stop the crocodile tears , that’s what has been happening and that’s why Brexit happened |
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This is a Japanese company , they will decide what is best for them and their workers
Guess what ? That means Japanese workers not British workers , that’s how it is |
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They don’t give two hoots about Britain or British workers , remember that
And learn from it |
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Been a car fan all my life mostley a British car fan so you know how painfull that has been over the last 40 plus years.
I have said this before not just on this forum but on many others in all my life of watching the global car industry I cannot think of a worse time to be in the car industry the problems they face in my opionion arw insermountable, every thing from everomental pressure to customer apathy, change in tech and traction to greater automation and AI. I have said this before but few if any of the current car companies will be in the car business in 10 years time, they are geared up to sell cars by the million but if future predictions are even a frationly correct then the world wide market for cars will contract. Any contraction will spell doom for at least one or two car companies. I loved what Honda has done engineering wise but their good days are now behind them sadly I think they will be one of the first to fail, they will continue in some form or other but they are not the company they were. |
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Fair Points Mac ,as for the Other Regular Seething types , I should like to point out we are still in Europe BREXIT HAS NOT HAPPENED ,or have I missed something ?
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We are turning a corner and change is upon us things that word today wont work tomorrow. Up until now trading between each other was the only way to succeed but not with AI and the level of automated tech that is here even now, this way belongs to yesterday.
We need and are capable of becoming selfficent. A difficult concept to grasp right now but the only one with a sustainable future imo |
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"We are turning a corner and change is upon us things that word today wont work tomorrow".
Spot on mac, the trouble is too many (most) are looking in their rear view mirrors and not where they are going.  |
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I thought she was very good in Dr Strange.
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No doubt that all the politicos bemoaning closure of car plants are the same ones encouraging greater use of rail and other forms of transport.
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JC seems more upset about journalists being good at their job and getting a scoop than yet another business turning it's back on Britain.
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Factory in Turkey also to close
Honda must be very haprehensive a out the future, they know global sales are going to tumble harsh times ahead for the whole of the industry the bigger you are the worse things will be |
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The usual morons will be along shortly with their ‘this is nothing to do with Brexit’ nonsense.
I guess this would include Honda's most senior executive in Europe? He has confirmed this is NOT a Brexit related issue. . https://order-order.com/2019/02/19/honda-not-brexit-related-issue/ |
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PorcupineorPineapple • February 19, 2019 8:09 AM GMT
JC seems more upset about journalists being good at their job and getting a scoop than yet another business turning it's back on Britain. --- No I'm not and I'm very obviously (to any reasonable person) not. Are ANY of the lefties here capable of basic English comprehension or not producing a series of stupid strawmen? |
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Otoh in Japan, it is seen as a Brexit-related issue even while quoting Honda's denial.
The plan had been to start producing new Civic models at the U.K. factory from the early 2020s. But as the prospects of a no-deal Brexit grew, Britain's viability as an export base became less certain. By closing the factory, Honda aims to improve earnings in its European operations. A no-deal divorce from the market would instantly impose a 10% tariff on cars traded between the U.K. and the Continent, and customs clearance processes would once again become necessary, throwing intricate supply chains into disarray. For ultimate production efficiency, auto plants in the U.K. now store enough parts for just hours of production. More than a thousand trucks a day cross the Dover Strait. Honda will maintain its European headquarters, Honda Motor Europe, in the U.K. after Brexit. While denying that Brexit is a factor in the latest decision, Hachigo acknowledged that it is creating uncertainty for the company's U.K. production. "The biggest risk is a disruption in parts supply," he said. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Honda-to-shut-UK-plant-by-2022-in-another-Brexit-retreat |
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More from that link:
Worries have driven Nissan Motor to scrap plans for producing a mainstay sport utility vehicle's next model at a British facility, while Toyota Motor is considering a temporary halt to factory work in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Toyota ships roughly 90% of vehicles produced in the U.K. to Europe, while the figure is roughly 60% for Nissan, according to LMC Automotive. BMW is considering shifting a portion of output at an Oxford plant to the Netherlands, and media reports say Ford Motor is weighing ending engine production in the U.K. Other international companies, including Japanese electronics makers Panasonic and Sony, plan to relocate certain British operations to the European mainland. |
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I thought all the usual loons in business and commons were saying the uk would be world leaders in green,electric cars,honda says non
wherever these electric cars are built where,s the expanding population who are prepared to pay 25 grand plus for an electric car and do the uk government still give you 5 grand towards an electric car I think the real reasons for the decline in the car market is people financed to the hilt on never,never,leased bought cars during the last 5 years,which doesn't suggest people are ready to pile into 25 grand electric cars |
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You don’t seem to understand , there is no need for Japan to have a car plant in Britain , they have just signed a free trade agreement with the EU
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so were not going to be the centre,capital of the worlds electric car market
just asking as that's what we were told |
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Now of course that is not a good thing for the European car manufacturers in Germany and France and Spain ...
silly fools |
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If honda want to produce more green cars, can't they just go down to halfords and stock up on tins of the appropriate paint?
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Japan can now enjoy near frictionless trade with one of its biggest markets without having to locate there
It makes sense to bring production back to Japan Now this free trade decision was taken by EU , it was taken whether Britain. was in or not in the EU That’s the reality |
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still don't get it
government ,big business were chasing zero tariffs trade deals in or out of japan, at the same time as saying we,re geared up to be the worlds leading manufacture of green transport and electric cars, knowing the trade deals they and the EU are seeking hurts the 2nd aim |
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FFS free trade deal with Japan.
British plumbers are finally managing to stop getting undercut by eastern european plumbers, now they'll have the Mario Brothers coming over and taking their jobs. |
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Most people don't know the big picture. The demand for new cars in US and western countries has been kept going for many years by extending loan periods low interest rates and car sales firms borrowing to keep afloat on tiny margins. There is massive over production. Nearly all car production in the UK will cease in the next couple of years imo.
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Brussels is jeopardising car manufacturing all over Europe with this deal,it seems to be getting lost in the maelstrom of claim and counter claim that politicians and media wallow in Brexit. I wonder which official is benefiting from this deal,reminds me of Mandelsson relaxing aluminium tariffs for the benefit of Russian oligarchs when he was EU commissioner.What job does he do now ?
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Another plant to close this time in Brazil Ford trucks, Ford to stop selling trucks in South America.
Seems to me that at a very high level the auto industry and world governments are planning for a very different style of transportation for the future. The piston engine is dead no attempt seems to being made to use alternative cleener fuels. Another thing to consider is how will the taxation on today's fuel be collected in the future? Expect a big increase else where |
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Now that it’s been generally agreed that the motor industry’s problems have little relation to brexit will eboue be man enough to come on & apologise for his moron comment.
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barrow - Honda have 4 plants in Europe. Swindon, Turkey and 2 in Belgium. 2 are closing and 2 are remaining open.
For 5 points, can you tell what is the difference in location between those closing and not? |
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2 actual plants in Belgium?
I thought the location in Ghent just run European logistics and the other one in Aalst just made parts. How long will the plants one last if their if no actual production left in Europe? |
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* parts.
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