Egypt TV host jailed for interviewing gay man

Prostitution and engaging with prostitutes should be illegal as most are trafficed sex slaves

Or under control of pimps.

So much sh1t talked on this forum...

Can't wait for the Mr O Jones take on the above story, and the underlying reason why this country is acting this way.

Mr O Jones would , no doubt , advocate Turkeys voting for Christmas , should we ever have a referendum on our national festivities

Hopefully a group representing the LGBT community headed by Jones will travel to Egypt to protest.

crossed of my list of countries to visit

They've never recovered from discovering the p0rnograph hieroglyphics depicting the activities of Ramhisarse the second.

Thought you'd just misspelt that.

It's the sort of area thought isn't it where you KNOW if a republican sayd something that could be interpreted as homophobic inspired by christainity, the din from the likes of Jones would be heard on the moon, this sort of thing, ... "quick let's talk about something else".

My spelling is notoriusly bad aka ;)

Hey aka, Salmond runs a chat show doesn't he on RT, any chance he could take a trip to Egypt to do some "progressive" interviews?

sayd. Bloody hell SAYD. What am I on. Couldn't decide between says and said and THAT my fellows is the result.

Some countries still have a way to go in accepting gays

We must remember it was only made legal in this country just over 50 years ago 1967.

You can't force anyone to accept anything they find abhorrent.
That's a basic human right.

akabula • January 21, 2019 11:14 PM GMT
You can't force anyone to accept anything they find abhorrent.
That's a basic human right.

You can't force anyone to do anything they find abhorrent . They are not required to accept it . Homosexuals have human rights , that is the only fact that's relevant .

Live and let live.

Not really Reynard.
And I agree with live and let live.
My point is against the abnormal time that is devoted to the subject and the word accept.
Gay pride for instance. If you organised a Hetero Pride march you would be charged with being homophobic.

akabula • January 21, 2019 11:29 PM GMT

My point is against the abnormal time that is devoted to the subject and the word accept.
Gay pride for instance. If you organised a Hetero Pride march you would be charged with being homophobic.

Sorry , misunderstood your point . I agree with both the above points

Which is not to say that I don't also agree with 'live and let live' , although live and let live should be a reciprocal thing .
All too often those one wishes to 'let live' do not wish to afford one the same luxury

i'd like to see Erdogan send a reporter into one of countrys Turkish baths

There seems to be a hierarchy in 'lefty' thinking.

1. Muslims

2. People of colour

3. LGBTQETC.

4. Feminists

5. Other Leftys

6. Other women and young people.

8. Everyone else (White middle aged men)

The higher you are in the pecking order, the more you are thought of, hence you cannot criticise those people of higher rank, but those of higher rank can criticise / offend / abuse those below, as the lefty will justify /ignore /deflect from their behaviour in some way.

I understand you akabula…

I think sometimes we over do the gay victim thing over here

and I was not entirely happy with gay marriage.


I think the first task is to get the whole world to accept that some people do live gays lives.

As long as they don't bother other people with it...it is part of human sexuality.


I remember seeing the film 'Victim' years ago, when homosexuality was illegal gay men would often get

blackmailed because of it...the Victim of the title, well played by Dirk Bogarde (who I think was one himself?)

Alan Turing was treated appallingly. He was gay but when he reported a young man had stolen from his flat.

The police charged Turing with being in a homosexual relation.

He was found guilty and ordered to be given female hormones? which made him grow breasts, he then took his

own life.

Not much of a reward for a man who had helped us so much with the breaking of the enigma code in WW11.

Although I think our security services were terrified the Russian's would blackmail Turing over his

homosexuality. Perhaps he was brought down on their orders as he knew too much?

Well posted Get me a drink...I am in 8 like most on here.

We have to apologise for being alive now

I'm lowest of the low also

I missed out 7. I think I would put criminals at no.7 (except 'hate' criminals, obviously. [:spit:])

The Leopard • January 21, 2019 9:50 PM GMT
Prostitution and engaging with prostitutes should be illegal as most are trafficed sex slaves

Or under control of pimps.

This is typical of proxy reasoning to get the result you really want. With that kind of reasoning I could say most drivers exceed the speed limit so ban all cars off the road.

If what you say is true then trafficing sex slaves and pimping should be illeagle, not prostitution.

Don't think prostitution has the same benefits that driving has there for you to draw a straight line between the two.

You would have to ask the prostitutes themselves

Those women save lives

I think voluntary prostitution is ok

They should be licensed and periodically checked.

Nobody wants these sex slave gangs.

It is an acknowledgement of men's natural instincts, so it is an outlet

We do not want men raping women are doing other bad things in pursuit of sex

just my own opinion

What a SURPRISE. Odious hypocritical twerp Owen Jones, the self proclaimed voice of LGTBI issues, is steadfastly ignoring this one on his twitter feed, and we know why, as to go there would reach conclusions he is not prepared to accept.
Trump and Saudi there though. And slagging off the tories.
And a rewteet of "How many black or mixed race journalists work in the lobby at Westminster?". And some virtue signalling crap about "trans" issues.

Gawd almighty he's such a .. mockery of himself.

How about these facts Mr Jones:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Opinion_polls
"A 2007 survey of British Muslims showed that 61% believe homosexuality should be illegal, with up to 71% of young British Muslims holding this belief.[185] A later Gallup poll in 2009 showed that none of the 500 British Muslims polled believed homosexuality to be "morally acceptable"."
"In a 2016 ICM poll of 1,081 British Muslims, 52% of those polled disagreed with the statement 'Homosexuality should be legal in Britain' while 18% agreed."

Egypt is merely a state has the power to enact what such people believe.

Bubububububububububut - Why is it that it's always white/tories Jones (and his SJW like) target, and can never see fault with people who hold the views expressed above as he gets on his marxist soapbox?

The comments about turkey's voting for christmas are so apt.

The reason the LGBTXYZ lot downplay this story is that they hate Christian Europe more than Islam.

Therefore 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'....

On a side note, see how the media change 'prostitution' to 'sex worker'. To validate said prostitution. Madness.

Prostitution: the unworthy or corrupt use of one's talents for personal or financial gain.

Can't use the P word in case the ****s/rent boys get offended.

hores

Injera
22 Jan 19 16:11
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The reason the LGBTXYZ lot downplay this story is that they hate Christian Europe more than Islam.

That seems strange, we treat LGBTXYZ a lot better than Islam would???????

In fact we treat them too well in my opibion

Which is why Islam would not even countenance legalization which I believe in.

Most of liberalism is strange UG. And suicidal. You're right, the gays will suffer first if Islam takes a bigger hold here.

The Left were the first to suffer in Iran post 1979. They had fawned over radical Islam and paid the price when they took power.

There seems to be a hierarchy in 'lefty' thinking.

1. Muslims

2. People of colour

3. LGBTQETC.

4. Feminists

5. Other Leftys

6. Other women and young people.

8. Everyone else (White middle aged men)

The higher you are in the pecking order, the more you are thought of, hence you cannot criticise those people of higher rank, but those of higher rank can criticise / offend / abuse those below, as the lefty will justify /ignore /deflect from their behaviour in some way.


Hierarchy of Victimhood Handicap:

Gay-Black-Female-Muslim (+70)
Gay-Black-Muslim (+60)
Black-Female-Muslim (+55)
Gay-Female-Muslim (+50)
Gay-Black-Female (+45)
Black-Muslim (+45)
Gay-Muslim (+40)
Female-Muslim(+35)
Gay-Black (+35)
Black-Female(+30)
Gay-Female (+25)
Muslim (+25)
Black (+20)
Gay (+15)
Female (+10)
Christian (-10)
Straight (-15)
White (-20)
Male (-25)
Straight-Christian (-25)
White-Christian (-30)
Male-Christian (-35)
Straight-White (-35)
Straight-Male (-40)
White-Male (-45)
Straight-White-Christian (-45)
Christian-White-Male (-50)
Straight-Christian-Male (-55)
Straight-White-Male (-60)
Straight-White-Christian-Male (-70)

injera  - you are dead right there - I have a personal interest and don't want to worry about where I park my car

nudge nudge

ps  when you are part of the LGBTQI  lot  you are virtually untouchable.  It is brilliant.

brilliant Hanx


altho I'd put Muslim at (+35) cos muzzies are ahead of any non-muzzie category in the victimhood/special treatment league table.

I am intrigued by every sentence  I see given  for two particular groups at trial.

Injera, you're right to mention "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" lefty logic.

https://ibb.co/5LdN8XH

https://pics.me.me/when-your-mum-says-youre-her-favourite-but-you-know-75647...

Plat - sums up their 'logic'! Should we or ?

Yet another example of why you should only travel abroad if you are fully aware of the laws and customs of the country you are going to. I know this only involved Egyptians but too many Brits assume that they can travel abroad and behave in the same way they do in UK. Other countries are entitled to their views.

more logic

https://ibb.co/yNRhCg9

It is going to be a very long job to get Muslim countries to accept homosexuality.

I assume it is condemned in the Koran?(I have never read it)

It is also condemned in the Bible...but we sensibly ignore this now.

It is a long time since both those books written.


Although the Ancient Greeks were all for homosexuality were they not


Patience is going to be needed here.

Both pro and anti gay factions need to use common sense and tolerance


ps That case in N.Ireland last year, over the Bert and Ernie cake did not endear me to gays. Tolerance and

reason is needed on both sides here....and perhaps we will get there in the end

pps
Knowing Human Nature things can swing both ways

while we wait for their 'ENLIGHTENMENT'  (should only be  4/500 years)  way before that  the demographic will have it and it will become illegal

300 constituencies 20,000 per constituency - bingo

happy to help

I see you are not optimistic over this Moisock

and of course we all know that there would have been ZERO complaints, ZERO court cases if the Cake Shop owners were muslims.

Jan 21, 2019 -- 11:29PM, akabula wrote:

Not really Reynard.And I agree with live and let live.My point is against the abnormal time that is devoted to the subject and the word accept.Gay pride for instance. If you organised a Hetero Pride march you would be charged with being homophobic.

Mostly because you'd organize said hetero pride as a total knee-jerk march in response to gay pride.

If I didn't hate loafing around so much I'd go on a Mother's pride march.

And what would be wrong with it Edy?
Why shouldn't people be proud to be hetero?
JC

gay good
hetero horrible

and so it goes on

get with the programme aka    edy clearly LOVES it - the darling

ps what is so delicious is you are virtually untouchable  - like playing the race card

if you are losing the argument you can demand a safe place, shriek TRANS OR HOMOPHOBE

heave yer handbag at the knuckledraggers and flounce out in tears

a win every time  making you 'look' like a KHANTian. 

See how it works.   You lot cannot win - give up and join ho ho ho

I was brought up to tolerate gay and lesbian people.

I think it is right we made it legal.


But now we have moved on to gay marriage and gay families

I am far from convinced over this, after all marriage and children is rather a heterosexual

institution. Well it has been for most of our history.


Well if the young are all right with this then fine.

Being older I have doubts I admit

In places like Egypt , and Saudi , etc, , they just have so many insane ideas ,
about sex . It would be quite funny if it wasn't so sad , but that's what those views are , sad and very wrong . What another person does with their body , is their business .
If you're gay , You're gay . You're not defined by your sexuality alone , it is just
an important part of you . If you're gay , accept yourself , don't live a lie . I love
gay people , know why ? Because they are people , I don't love their gayness , I don't
care about that , it's nothing to do with me . Love and Peace , is what
we need more of in this world , not insane ideas about gay people .
Amour et Paix .

talking of gay families, did you hear that Google lost their sh1t recently when someone had the audacity to use the phrase "family friendly" about one of their products.
Apparently thats a loaded (heteronormative) term now

I thought we had 'gay' families now...so how can this offend?

Heteronormative???? well that is what most of us are, heteronormative

We don't have apologise to for it.

I think this world is a better place when gays stay in the background....I really do


I would not stop them doing what they do(they would do it anyway) but the less I hear of them the better

I heard that Egyptian gays have been in denial.

One of your best Crisp

Why do people quote BBC as if they are some sort of authority on international matters when you won't trust them reporting on what happens outside your door. I hear people whining about the media everyday but have no problem believing the same media on matters that don't happen before their own eyes.

Maybe it is hard to believe but the media has always been lying to you. The only difference today is that it has started lying to you about things happening in your own country.

This particular instance could well be a case of political victimization. It is Egypt after all. But even if it is the truth, isn't it exactly what one would expect to happen in a muslim country? I thought after the imports, people would realize what kind of people reside in that region.

You know s0d all - yet another broadcast from the know it all in germany

the people you denigrate are peace loving

if they don't like it up the 'arris wots wrong with them objecting to it??

As far as I can see Homosexuality is not specifically illegal in Egypt

But if you practice it they can and will get you any other number of charges...offending public morality, etc

So in effect it is!

I am afraid this bloke was asking for it interviewing a gay men.

Liked that Crisp

ANYONE thats thinks homosexuality is okay is a reprobate - end of.

DickTurpin 

"ANYONE thats thinks homosexuality is okay is a reprobate - end of. "



Says the man using a nom-de-plume of a highway robber.

What a prime example of a knob head.


DickTurpin  You should be able to claim a full disability allowance with such a poorly functioning brain like yours

Dick turpin,

I apologise, I should not have insulted you for your lack of ability to think things through, I acted rashly, I'm sorry.

Dick Turpin , I would say that just about everyone in my family , sadly , has the same view as yourself . My family are catholic's . I think i understand were you're coming form , but in my my view , it's not based on truth / reality . The reality is , we are , who we are . Gay people are not havin a laugh , they don't choose to be gay , they are honestly , attracted to their own sex . I embrace that honesty . I not only think that , it's ok to be gay , i think , it's wonderful , WHY ? Because , being gay is not a sin , it is A Truth , i don't care what the church says. GOD BLESS US ALL .

It's so wonderful that the NHS says all gay men should have a check up every 6 months. The ONLY other people they tell that to is people with recurring health complaints.

It's so wonderful your 50x more likely to be HIV positive if you're gay. STD clinics are full of gays.

Sing if you're glad, Injera.

Homophobics have rights to.

akabula

Well I am glad you are happy to be gay Culvin(but please don't go on Egyptian TV)


Well pretty well everybody likes sex, whatever their personal choices. We are supposed to.

As long as we do not harm others with it is ok...it must be voluntary


I am not over keen on the idea of Gay marriage and Gay Families myself because I was brought up with

the belief it was a heterosexual institution. But then I am older so I leave it the young to make the choice.

I think children could also do with 2 parents of opposite sex.


I have always believed it should be legal since the Wolfenden Report recommended it and watching the film

Victim.


Religions came before the Media we have today. They were rules which governed societies. Both the Bible and

Koran said it was a sin. One of the reasons for this may have been the need to keep populations up, so all

needed to be heterosexual.

But strangely the Greeks seemed to tolerate homosexuality and they did not become extinct.


The Christian Church cannot change the Bible but most modern clerics certainly in the CE see it as a very

small sin.

The Muslims still to be lagging in a bit, I am afraid patience is needed here. But hopefully they will get

there one day

But also Gays themselves have to respect peoples Religious beliefs, no more Bert and Ernie cases please.

I use the word reprobate because i'm a CALVINIST, however, only GOD truly knows the reprobate............nevertheless you need to repent and believe whether you are a homosexual or not, makes no difference.......