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how to get rid of inequality??
how to get rid of inequality??
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Alun is having his cake and eating it.
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 mouseOne thing that did disappoint me. The Banks brought us crashing down in 2008/9. and yet they have never had to pay it back. The rest of us have had to pay, through austerity. I accept we must have capitalism, but things like this give it a very bad name |
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I think this is the kind of area where we can do something.
The bank crash was a great example. They threaten us with cuts or moving abroad and the government caves in and allows them to carry on as if nothing had happened. The likes of Amazon and Google are another filthy blot on the landscape. Touting round to cities and governments, asking what they get in return for opening an office there. It's ridiculous. It's where you need a concerted large scale agreement from countries to say "no thanks; you pay your taxes, you pay for your buildings and infrastructure and then we'll allow you to come here". Again though, everyone is just in thrall to capitalism. |
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The equation is simple, everyone wants the greatest return for the least input.
After all which fool wants to work too hard for little reward? Nobody. So the stage was made by those who went before who created an environment where unmerited take out can be excused, even lauded under the premis that markets are god. Somebody still has to toil to ‘balance the books’ of all the unmerited profiteering and it’s the stupid who do. You have little or no choice as capitalism is everywhere and there is never an option to defer, everyone (unless born with silver spoons) has a shackle locked around their throats and actually are forced to buy back their own existence. Most never achieve it and live miserable lives as each time somebody acts ‘oportunistically’ In pursuit of the wealth required to gain freedom many others get dragged further down as pooling capital in fewer places within finite economies limits what is left for all the rest, making the algorithm of ideology even tougher on certain people. Whether you subscribe to creationism or evolutionary empiricism the fact remains neither invented money, that was man’s invention that originally stored wealth from crops to trade but ultimately became the vehicle to rob others of their lives and freedom in plain sight. But fear not because nobody can say they can’t save themselves, the answer has always been known but most chose to be distracted and simply complain when they suffer as a result.’ Reading books is the road to riches (of all varieties) and the journey to erudition at first is baron and hard, but the road is long and ultimately fruitful. People will get angry when I say it, but you don’t find too many erudite individuals on council estates. |
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We don’t want to get rid of inequality we have the best of all systems in Britain stop moaning no one is poor in Britain ,
Not a single person , be thankful Money is the greatest of all inventions it protects you from the overwhelming will of other people , people like dustybin |
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Lfc you don’t need money.
You could wallow in your ignorance all day long. Then tell the world all about it. |
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That’s wrong, I do need money
That’s the point I was trying to make |
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That’s what is so important about money , you don’t have to worry too much
and in a system such as Britain’s you don’t need to have too much not to have to worry too much , That’s beautiful , be thankful |
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Ofc you do, it was irony. The reason you need it is due to the collective pressure of other people’s desires.
It seems to me the whole structure was built wrong. Instead of ‘for profit’ organisations stripping value from resources we should have built the opposite. A mentality where you take as little as required as possible. After all innovation isn’t spurred on by for profit companies, if it were the motorcar would essentially be exactly the same as it was 100 years ago (give or take a few bells and whistles) What profiteering actually does is parasite on the back or discovery and discovery more often than not is a collective public enterprise that pushes the boundaries....not claim ownership of assets and leverage them against those without. |
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*the motorcar wouldn’t be the same
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That’s good , I like cars and motorbikes
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I don’t know who invented or designed or built them , i didn’t I know that
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That’s smashing
As much as I’d love to be intrigued by your enlightenment I have things I want to get done this morning After all, time is money. |
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Of course , be thankful
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And if you manage to use your time well , and come up with something as beautiful as a Triumph or Yamaha or motorbike
Then you will have didn’t your time well and we will all be thankful and you might become rich Let’s see .... |
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No incentive equals no effort.
This is a sound reason to limit benefits for the unproductive. The idea of some working, while others live off their backs is the worst case of inequality. |
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What’s wrong with that ?
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* sorry that wasn’t a reply to your dr crippen
I agree with that |
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Only very selfish people would want to do away with inequality
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And we have seen the results in the countries that have tried it , or pretended to
No I’m sorry I prefer money |
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It’s a balance , we have the balance pretty well as good as possible in Britain
look around at other countries It’s a difficult thing to accomplish ,it’s not guaranteed , try not to destroy it : ( |
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Life, lfc1971 has it by the balls.
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Inequality of opportunity is what needs to be reduced !
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EG. : Public school pupils being given easier exams than state educated pupils.
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Or 97 year old hereditary monarchs driving about like an idiot and getting away with it
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Look at it this way, no one ever crashes into comrade Putin
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He has a chauffeur.....who is not 97.
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Anyway, the Royal Family are purely decorative and inconsequential !
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I'm off out !
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That’s neither here nor there , no one ever crashes into comrade Putin
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I like to walk anyway
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Why can poor people not have chauffeurs ?
I don’t know , maybe it’s to punish them for being poor |
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try reading oxfam report 2018 on inequality , go the guardian online you can see it there
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I don’t need to read it , no one in Britain is poor
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The 26 richest billionaires own more than 50 per cent of the worlds poor
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there is poverty of course , in other countries
Now unless those other countries take our good advice , and they don’t Then nothing will improve , I doubt the guardian mentions that |
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There is a growing economic theory that giving away a set amount of money would be advantageous to all.
This in essence is very similar to what I have always thought to be the answer that combines the tory view of the 'feckless' and a socialist's version of equality. If a person gives up at the first sign of difficulty, like many do at school, then few could argue that they perhaps get what they deserve in life. But that doesnt obviously mean all those without havnt tried all they can, like right wing ideology has us believe. Its been a long held belief of mine that the raison d'etre of the human isnt simply to be minions or to actively partake in commerce. Nobody gets the option to 'drop out', but they should. If somebody doesnt want to be part of the assumed norm then they should be allowed to do nothing and survive on a low benefit And before people start scoffing that they shouldnt be given anything, just think about the amount of money willfuly stolen from the 'top', it doesnt compare. |
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If you had a 1per cent wealth tax it would raise 325 bilion enough to provide health care and prevent 3 million death s , and provide education for every child not in school
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If that was true anxious no one would say it wasn’t a good thing
I doubt it is |
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As far as I know Bill Gates is giving away most of his wealth and doing those sorts of things
Very good |