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Andy Murray - Greatest British Sportsman of all Time

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By:
trilby22
When: 14 Jan 19 14:25
Btw, my first choice would have been Daley Thompson.
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 14 Jan 19 14:38
Mentioning Murray in the same breath as McEnroe is laughable.
Mac spent 170 weeks as World Number 1 and went a long way to finishing the career of one of the genuine GOAT contenders, Borg.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 14:44
I didn’t say anything different did i?
And I did say that , for me , McEnroe was the greatest of all
By:
darren_discombobulates_sports
When: 14 Jan 19 14:49
I don't think McEnroe would have ever of beaten today's top 3, he was of his time though, Sampras beat him comfrotable the 3 times they played when he was a teenager.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 14:51
Sampras was a different era to McEnroe
You have to look at McEnroe at his peak , when he lost that epic Wimbledon final match to Borg
And then the following year when he beat Borg in the final
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 14:56
You see the type of player McEnroe was is slightly more difficult to be than a Borg or a sympras
It’s like comparing a player such as Higgins to Davis , it’s slightly more difficult to be huggins
Or a mcilroy  to a Faldo , it’s a little more difficult to be mcilroy
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 14:58
That’s what I meant in likening Murrys game to McEnroe , there are similarities
It’s more difficult to be a murry than a Bjorivich..
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:05
spellings gone to pot sorry
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 15:11
He certainly won't be ranked in the top 5 by tennis experts.

He's LFC pick as the greatest of all time simply because he competed in his era,just like nearly everyone
named by LFC in this thread---Alex Higgins,John Curry,Torvill and Dean,Coe,Ovett,Cram,Mike Hailwood,Davis,Stewart,etc.


There is absolute no logical reason to regard McEnroe as the greatest of all time--probably wasn't the best of his era(he had a poor record against Lendl)
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 15:13
That's McEnroe  (He certainly won't be ranked in the top 5 by tennis experts.)


BTW--he's one of my favourite sportsman but I'm realistic when it comes to his place in History
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:15
JML  I have just said that I think McIlroy is a greater golfer than Faldo
You see I also think Claude Monet was a genius and a better artist than anyone alive today
I wasn’t alive in 1874
By:
moisok
When: 14 Jan 19 15:16
who are all these people and what do they have to do with Brexit?
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:17
Will McIlroy win more than Faldo , I don’t know
But he has won , yes it’s important to win , but he’s won enough
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:19
That’s s little history lesson for you there jml
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 15:21
History Lesson???? I could have guessed you weren't alive in 1874.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:24
Well done, then what are you on about , McIlroy is playing now Faldo isn’t , Monet is history
Ah so what
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 15:30
You didn't actually say that Mcillroy was a better golfer than Faldo.


What you said was You see the type of player McEnroe was is slightly more difficult to be than a Borg or a sympras
It’s like comparing a player such as Higgins to Davis , it’s slightly more difficult to be huggins
Or a mcilroy  to a Faldo , it’s a little more difficult to be mcilroy.



Harder to be A than B ??? Just more of your mindless ramblings
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 14 Jan 19 15:31
I don't know JML, he will certainly be ranked top 10 by most and a few will have him top 5.
He won 7 majors from 1979-84, at a time that (in keeping with a few of the top boys) he didn't play the Australian Open.
Him, Borg and Connors farmed the biggies at that time in the same way that Fed, Nadal and Djok have recently - the differences in training methods contributing to the current crops longevity and so better numbers, imo.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:37
Yes I was explaining why I think MeEnroe was the greatest tennis player
Now try and follow this  , obviously other tennis players have won more

In snooker Davis has won more than Higgins , i was trying to explain why I think Higgins is greater

Faldo has won more than McIlroy ...

So what , it is more difficult to play golf like McIlroy than to play like Faldo
And in some ways it is more difficult to win tournaments playing like McIlroy

But playing that way , and playing the way McEnroe played tennis is also more beautiful

Understand ?
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 15:44
I'll understand when you provide a single thread of evidence to back up what you say.


At the moment we only have your usual nonsense
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:47
well I will ask you this , do you think Muhummad Ali was a better boxer than Valarie Klixko  ?
By:
Platini
When: 14 Jan 19 15:54
glad to see another Johnny Mac fan on here, LFC. He is my all-time fav tennis player, and one of my sporting heroes. Cool

I don't care what anyone says, and I know his slam haul doesn't put him up with the GOATS, but I have never seen a player with so much natural ability (ok apart from Fed).
He played shots that we'd never seen before, impossible looking shots given the inferior equipment of the day - heavy rackets with much smaller heads, and heavier balls, etc

I do think there are similarities between Murray and McEnroe (flawed genius and temperament issues esp), but of course, Andy is not in his league. Nobody would ever argue that.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:55
Wladimir
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 15:56
Quite right platini, you understand : )
By:
Platini
When: 14 Jan 19 16:08
and lets not forget, Mac is the commentator and pundit GOAT Cool
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 16:12
It’s interesting who a sportsman has to face is also important
That McInroe had to face Borg was perfect , perfect

Ali had Frazier just at the right time

Coe and Ovett , perfect ...
By:
Injera
When: 14 Jan 19 16:13
Faldo, Westwood, Rose, Donald and Rory have all been World Number 1.

A long with Faldo, Rose and Rory, GMac has also won a major.

Murray benefits from BBC tv coverage AND the decades' long wait for UK tennis success.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 16:16
Don’t forget Woosnam
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 16:18
Sandy Lyle won two , in fact won the masters before Faldo and made faldo think he could do it as well

( sandy was actually a more talented golfer than Faldo )
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 16:23
Pretty sure Lyle won the open before Faldo also , it was lyles success than meant other British golfers thought that they might be able to win majors also , he kick started it
By:
Just Checking
When: 14 Jan 19 17:03
Can he just stop crying for once already? Watch Bambi and get it out of his system?
I've been ok with it before but every freakin time he speaks he's now getting the sniffles.
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 17:50
Why was Lyle more talented than Faldo?

Most people would assume that the person with the more successful career would have more talented.



In snooker Davis has won more than Higgins , i was trying to explain why I think Higgins is greater


Davies won the head to head 23--4 including some big thrashings. Higgins being better than Davis is going to take some explaining.
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 17:51
**would have been more talented.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 18:29
I think John Higgins has won more than Alex Higgins
have you answered my question about Muhummud Ali ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 18:30
Now I could explain why Lyle was more talented than Faldo
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 18:32
Lyle was able to hit shots naturally , from about the age of 14 , younger ?
That Faldo would never be able to hit at any time right through his career and now
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 18:38
I’m being a bit unfair on Faldo and Davis , they were both tremendous talents
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 18:48
Lyle was able to hit shots at 14 years of age that Faldo was unable to hit at any time.



Is there any limit to your stupidity.
By:
lfc1971
When: 14 Jan 19 18:55
It’s true jml I am not particularly intelligent , but this is a subject I understand
By:
JML
When: 14 Jan 19 19:00
I that case you shouldn't have any difficulty in describing a couple of these shots in great details.
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