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Baphornet When: 30 Dec 18 21:23

this country; alongside our allies? the French, lied and betrayed the Arab nations just over 100 years ago. This betrayal is still felt every day in the middle east, because of borders then imposed. It has ingrained hatred of the West in many Arab societies. You don't deal with such hatred by opening your borders

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UBLE/REGY When: 30 Dec 18 21:26

The problem is some people see this as the only alternative to the all consuming greed of the West.

This generally tends to be the poorer countries of the World.

The poor did have an alternative once, Communism, but that has now fallen.

Had a few disastrous failures communism it was not all bad, in my opinion

It is noticeable since the fall of Communism, basically the Soviet Union in the 80's, people

how people have turned to Islam as their only hope to combat the West.

I think the West has to bribe people away from Islam, they no certainty to lose in my opinion.

In their own countries, of course, not here.

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UBLE/REGY When: 30 Dec 18 21:27

this = Islam

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UBLE/REGY When: 30 Dec 18 21:30

true Baphornet

We must admit we have been wrong.

and try to help where we can.

There remains one further problem, I am not bringing that up on this thread, enough is enough

Also very difficult sadly.

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UBLE/REGY When: 30 Dec 18 21:38

One thing the Muslims need is pot in my opinion.( wish it was legal here tbh)

They need to chill out big time the Muslims.

While all the men are relaxing on pot, they let their women do a few things for a change.

Gives them them a bit more to do and get out more, its a winner all round.

I wonder if this post will be shown

Don't take it too seriously moderators please

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Reynard When: 30 Dec 18 21:39

User Baphornet • December 30, 2018 8:55 PM GMT
6% population in the UK & rising yearly; and that's the ones we actually know about.

6% population in the UK & rising daily; and that's the ones we actually know about.

Immigration office cancelling Xmas leave and sending workers to South East to man the beaches with abacuses

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Baphornet When: 30 Dec 18 21:48

i was trying to be objective, Reynard

you have the Home Secrerary of this country, today a shoty while ago saying this

"There are "no easy answers" to the English Channel migration crisis because many of the factors behind it are "outside our control", Sajid Javid claims.

In his first major intervention since breaking off his holiday to take control of the situation, the Home Secretary says he will not "stand by" and allow "reckless" criminals to exploit vulnerable migrants and put them in "grave danger".

Writing in The Telegraph after talks with his French counterpart, Mr Javid suggests there will be increased surveillance, patrols and action to disrupt criminal gangs to try to tackle the issue."

please take that statement in fully. This is the Home Secretary of this country speaking

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moisok When: 30 Dec 18 21:49

oh hold me up!! don't you realise they are allowed to lie to you - it is in the instruction book

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moisok When: 30 Dec 18 21:52

errr look!!! I know something about this - do you know how long the english channel is

do you know how vast amount of water there is

even in moderate conditions a small boat remains hidden behind waves

go to sea in one to get the picture

a boat with 2 ft freeboard is hidden behind behind most of the undulating channel sea state
and westerlies are even more helpful in hiding small stuff - of course depends on local conditions

but that would confuse most of you

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detraveller When: 31 Dec 18 01:37

Dec 30, 2018 -- 11:16AM, Injera wrote:

detraveller - you raise an important point. Low birth rates are used by Merkel etc for saying we need immigrants. It's a pretty poor argument or should I say a lie.Hungary came up with their “Family Housing Allowance Program,” to encourage local people into marriage and to have more kids.'In 2015, the government of Hungary announced a major new policy: families would be given generous subsidies to buy or build new homes, and the subsidies would scale up based on their marital status and the number of children they had.' https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-hungary-experiencing-a-policy-induced-baby-boomThe idea you have to bring people in to your nation instead of encouraging your own people to have more children is garbage and Merkel et al know it.Feminism in the West doesn not help either. Women more and more defined by theor job not by their vital role as Mothers. Also too abortion.

Thanks for pointing out the alternative. I have heard of giving incentives to families for having kids, but I do not see how that can work. As I pointed out, even in the 90s, immigrants were breeding like crazy both in Germany and UK, as well as Sweden(crazier). When you give them incentives on top of that, there is only one group that is going to breed more, the immigrants.

That is because western parents think like this: Ok let's have a little Johnny, but would our current apartment be big enough for him? Would we both have to work to be able to afford Johnny? Would our financial situation do justice to the upbringing that little johnny deserves? etc etc etc. More kids = more mouths to feed.

This is how most immigrants think: Dafuq the govt is giving us more money to have more kids? Lets do this. The future of little Johnny is little Johnny's own problem. More kids = more hands to earn later. In fact if you go to some of the poorest regions, you'll see that the poor ones have more kids because they think they'll be able to earn more as a family later when the kids grow up.

I understand that these incentives are way better than importing completely new people to the country. But then the potential of islamic terrorism and using it to control a whole continent was probably too attractive for the politicians. As I always say, some years down the road, we will be happy to form an army to deal with these people, happily giving up our own freedoms thinking the govt is doing it to protect us. I was made fun of for saying this during the refugee crisis but I don't see how this is not our future.

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detraveller When: 31 Dec 18 02:09

Dec 30, 2018 -- 9:48PM, Baphornet wrote:

i was trying to be objective, Reynardyou have the Home Secrerary of this country, today a shoty while ago saying this"There are "no easy answers" to the English Channel migration crisis because many of the factors behind it are "outside our control", Sajid Javid claims. In his first major intervention since breaking off his holiday to take control of the situation, the Home Secretary says he will not "stand by" and allow "reckless" criminals to exploit vulnerable migrants and put them in "grave danger".Writing in The Telegraph after talks with his French counterpart, Mr Javid suggests there will be increased surveillance, patrols and action to disrupt criminal gangs to try to tackle the issue."please take that statement in fully. This is the Home Secretary of this country speaking

(Baphornet, this isn't a reply to you, i'm just quoting to use the content of your msg :) )

This is a great example of people reacting only to what they are shown or told, irrespective of the reality. When I tell people its not islam that is out to get you, but your own politicians, I am labelled a muslim apologist. But Sajid javid's comments are a great example of how far away from reality the general public is.

Sajid is laughing his arse off right now by announcing more patrols in the sea. Because he's just convinced the people that migrants come on dinghies when that is not at all the case. You can cross the channel by paying a sufficient amount to any transporter traveling across. And this practice has never been mentioned by any politician or anyone from the public. Because like Sajid just did, he's convinced the public the problem lies somewhere else. And that's how every politician as well as media channel functions.

When people think of illegal migrants, they imagine cramped up people coming in on inflated dinghies. Many have never realized that coming to UK on a student visa after paying a few thousand pounds in fees, and then crossing the channel, losing your passport, and claiming asylum has been the 'VIP route' to European citizenship for at least the last two decades. Even today a person registered with the UKIB(which all students are) can travel to France, lose his passport and the French won't know jackshit where he came from!(even though a fingerprint check with the neighbor will give you all the details). Sajid is indeed laughing at how easy he can divert people's attention, which is what politics is all about. The public is so far away from the reality, it is laughable.

Now you get back to talking about how it says in the book that infidels can be slaughtered and what not...

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Platini When: 01 Jan 19 19:10

Some on this thread questioned what I meant by special protection given to the religion of peace.

Where do I start ?

How about last night's stabbings in Manchester? (just one of a spate of stabbings in the last 36 hours)

Despite witness evidence and video evidence of what was shouted during ad after the attack, the authorities are saying "motive is unclear"
or "keeping an open mind about the motive"

Meanwhile the BBC and the rest of the MSM are doing everything they can to avoid pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Its 2019 - and the special protection is growing ever stronger.

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Reynard When: 01 Jan 19 19:24

Dunno who they're trying to fool by hiding facts such as cultural/religious motive and quoting of scripture .
More worrying is that they clearly believe that they are actually being believed by the majority .

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DenzilPenberthy When: 01 Jan 19 19:27

The country is full of fcukwits the majority probably haven't made the connection

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DenzilPenberthy When: 01 Jan 19 19:28

How many still believe in GOD or at least use the religion card for their own benefit waboc

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Baphornet When: 01 Jan 19 19:30

All the best, Denzil

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DenzilPenberthy When: 01 Jan 19 19:31

And to you Baph