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Dr Crippen
24 Nov 18 13:09
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Chances of getting caught must be lower than ever with police presence dwindling all the time.
I can't remember the last time I saw a police car.

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By:
moisok
When: 24 Nov 18 13:26
you see loads of them (polis cars) when there is a crash

but then they are unlikely to get much agro there   oh whoops - I shouldn't be so sarcastic

apologies
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 13:34
I was thinking how when I was younger I was out drinking and driving every night year after year.
I only ever got stopped once, and then got away with it.
The chances of getting pulled up now must be virtually nil especially if you try to avoid the main roads coming back.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 13:37
Nil is going a bit far with half a million breath test carried out, but most of them must be for accidents.
Drive extra carefully and keep clear of accidents.
By:
layemall
When: 24 Nov 18 13:42
You can run the gauntlet time and time again.....but eventually, you WILL get caught....as I know to my cost......so my Christmas message is.....just don't do it :)
By:
terry mccann
When: 24 Nov 18 13:52
I think the good Doc is on a wind upWink
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 24 Nov 18 14:19
Ministers do not know the impact that funding cuts have had on police forces, the UK's public spending watchdog says.

According to the National Audit Office, the Home Office does not know whether the police system in England and Wales is "financially sustainable".

It calls the approach to police funding "ineffective" and "detached" from the changing demands faced by officers.

A Home Office spokesman said the department had conducted a substantial review of police pressures last year.

However, the Home Office had not even forecast the effect of losing 44,000 police officers and staff since 2010, the NAO said.

Since September 2009 - the last set of Home Office figures before the Conservatives came into government - there has been a cut of 22,424 police officers.

There were 126,252 police officers in England and Wales in September 2017, according to the latest figures.

Historically there have been fewer officers - with 123,474 in 2001; 125,453 in 1991; and 116,544 in 1981, for example.

Officer numbers grew during the Labour government from 2002 onwards, peaking in 2009.

The report found:

- It took 18 days to charge an offence for the year ending March 2018 - four days longer than for the year ending March 2016
- The arrest rate fell to 14 arrests per 1,000 population in 2016-17, down from 17 per 1,000 population in 2014-15
- There have been fewer breathalyser tests, motoring fixed penalty notices and convictions for drugs trafficking and possession since 2010
- 33% of victims were not happy with police response in the year ending March 2018, up from 29% in the year ending March 2016


Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick told the annual conference of the Police Superintendents' Association that the force had faced "unprecedented challenges", noting that some officers are working "longer and harder".

"This is not a service that needs reform, this is a service that needs support and needs resources... the NAO report shows this," she said.

Durham's chief constable Mike Barton said the decisions of Home Office ministers in regards to police funding were "sometimes in the hands of the Treasury".

"I actually think the cuts in 2010 were the wake up call that policing needed to say: 'Come on spend your money wisely'," Mr Barton told BBC Breakfast.

But he said there had been a "constant strain" since then with "austerity dragging out".

Mark Burns-Williamson, police and crime commissioner for West Yorkshire, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the report highlighted what other PCCs had been saying "for some time".

Firstly, that the overall amount of funding for policing "isn't enough" - and secondly that the funding formula was "not really fit for purpose", leading to "unfairness and differences" between different areas.

Home Affairs Select Committee chair Yvette Cooper said MPs had repeatedly heard about police forces being overstretched, calling the report "very accurate" and "damning".

The Labour MP told the BBC it showed an "irresponsible approach from the Home Office" in making "substantial cuts" in the police budget "without appearing to have any clear idea about what the impact of those cuts are".

The NAO report comes as Home Secretary Sajid Javid prepares for a speech to police superintendents in which he will say the police must be equipped for a changing landscape.

On Monday, the leader of the superintendents' association warned the service was on the verge of a crisis.

Police forces in England and Wales are funded through a £12.3bn combination of a central grant to each police and crime commissioner, as well as additional cash raised locally through the council tax and one-off grants for special projects.

The NAO says the amount coming from the government is down 30% in real terms since 2010-11.

The NAO's Tom McDonald said the Home Office "does not really understand the nature of the demand" facing police forces.

He said the funding formula used to allocate money was "out of date", three years after the Home Office told Parliament that the formula was ineffective.

"It's unlikely that the money is going to the right places," he said. "We have real concerns about it."
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 14:22
It's extremely bad luck if you're asked to provide a specimen on a spot check these days.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 24 Nov 18 15:10
Always bluddy spill it when i do... Blush
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 15:47
Nick Ferrari said on his show, that of every 100 police personnel only four are on the streets at any given time.
By:
moisok
When: 24 Nov 18 15:53
900 of little khan's men are watching you from behind their computer desk
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Nov 18 16:18
Drinking and driving is not funny as it's not just your own personal safety you are putting at risk, others might die or have life changing injuries because of your own selfishness.
HTH..
By:
cardenden
When: 24 Nov 18 16:58
ritchies the guy you need to ask
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 17:03
Doesn't help JC.
I've never had an accident while under the influence.
You see after a responsibly minded person has had a drink, they bear it in mind and drive with particular care.
And far safer than the average sober driver who's prepared to take a chance or two.
By:
Slicer
When: 24 Nov 18 18:33
If you get caught, just state you are a follower of the Religion of Pieces who is about to change gender. Not only will you get away with it, they will put you at the top of the waiting list for the op and give you a luxury home in which to recover!
By:
Slicer
When: 24 Nov 18 18:35
They daren't do anything else otherwise they would be branded racist and transgenderphobes.
By:
ufcdan
When: 24 Nov 18 18:35
Drinking and driving at Christmas ? Why not, there's no old bill about anymore Mischief
By:
TheBaron
When: 24 Nov 18 18:47
Yeah what possible other reason would you not?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 18:50
Of course if a sober driver crashes into you while you're over the limit, you will get blamed for the accident even if it isn't your fault.
That's why you have to drive with extra care if you've had a couple or more.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 18:52
It seems a pity now there's no law to protect us that we can't get something out of the situation.
By:
TheBaron
When: 24 Nov 18 18:53
Oh so driving drunk is actually a good thing.  Blimey they've got it wrong all this time.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 19:07
Sensible drivers have always known they're safer drivers after they've had a few.
The fear of getting caught makes them twice as careful.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Nov 18 20:25
Sensible drivers don’t drink and drive.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Nov 18 20:30
So the logical conclusion is:

If we can identify which drivers are sensible, if we keep them a bit pissed all the time the roads will be safer?

(assuming you aren't driving past a book depositry or grassy knoll)
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 20:43
That's very silly JC.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 20:52
The reason sensible drivers are even safer after having a drink, is simply because of the threat of losing their licences if they get caught.
Remove the threat and they'd drive the same as if they were sober.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 24 Nov 18 20:53
Because drinking and making sensible decisions go hand in hand
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 18 20:54
Drunk people are not in full control of their senses or movement, in other words, there's no such thing as a sensible driver, and btw, it's also an offence to drive too slow particularly on the motorways which can be just as dangerous breaking the speed limit.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 21:02
Of course the degree of intoxication has to be a factor.
I'm sure sensible drivers always make sure they didn't drink too much.
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 24 Nov 18 21:16
What if youre too drunk to realise youre too drunk though?

The more i drink the better i am at anything in my head
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 21:42
I don't think drinking and driving is for you Pleasegivemeanailedontip.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 24 Nov 18 21:53
Not many people could make a case for drinking and driving.
Even fewer could make that case seem plausible.

So the definition of a "sensible driver" is one who is slightly over the limit and therefore a better driver than everyone else?

You're excelling yourself with this one, crippen.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 22:07
What springs to mind is the motorists who have lost their licences while driving carefully and safely, but have simply failed the breath test.

Which seems unfair.
By:
donny osmond
When: 24 Nov 18 22:09
neil armstrong would never have landed the eagle on the lunar surface had he not been slightly pished

thats one small drink for man, one giant pish up for mankind.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Nov 18 22:09
These motorists are a world apart from the drunken types that manage to wrap their cars around a lamppost.
By:
northanlite
When: 24 Nov 18 22:35
Driving is quite easy so I find a few drinks makes it more of a challenge
By:
northanlite
When: 24 Nov 18 22:41
When drink driving law was brought in people protested, seat belts, another protest.
I get that people want individual freedoms but when you act like f***wits & other
people have to scrape the guts of said f***wits & their victims off the kerb side then
yeah a bit of regulation is required.
By:
nellie1970
When: 25 Nov 18 10:08
more driving under the influence of drugs these days
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Nov 18 11:24
Of course there is Nellie, and with so few police on the streets these days, and those that are, all conditioned to follow correct procedure rather than uphold the law it's no wonder.
By:
Just Checking
When: 25 Nov 18 11:27
The drug thing annoys me, especially in summer, I've walked past many parked cars where they are obviusly off their silly little tits.
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