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By:
lybertyne
When: 26 Nov 18 00:47
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By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 26 Nov 18 01:15
Laugh
By:
tobermory
When: 26 Nov 18 01:27
I think Badjoe was implying the fishermen robbed and killed the guy and threw him overboard, knowing that no one is sending Poirot on to that island to figure it out.
By:
saddo
When: 26 Nov 18 09:19
scandanavian_haven    26 Nov 18 00:30 
I read your post joe but thought the idea of a man who's life experience is reminiscent of those walking the earth 10's of thousands of years ago, holding an ipad, was an interesting thought imo.




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By:
badjoe
When: 28 Nov 18 23:26

Nov 26, 2018 -- 1:27AM, tobermory wrote:


I think Badjoe was implying the fishermen robbed and killed the guy and threw him overboard, knowing that no one is sending Poirot on to that island to figure it out.


It's amazing how the press have taken word for word the fishermen's account for what happened as gospel with no other witnesses to collaborate it, but it is a good story and good stories sell, why let the truth get in the way of profit Confused. It may well be true, but here is a little extract from an article in the the guardian....

According to Chau’s diaries, which he gave to the fishermen before departing for the island a final time, the American wanted to “declare Jesus” to the Sentinelese, whose home forms part of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, an Indian territory scattered across the Bay of Bengal and Andaman Sea.

The Guardian understands an investigation is officially continuing against the seven men accused of helping Chau reach the island. The absence of a body will complicate efforts to issue a formal death certificate, the source said.

Why would he give these men his diaries? , when if he made contact with the Sentinelese, he could have added so much more to them, and as evidence of his quest, been more documented.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/28/
india-body-john-allen-chau-missionary-killed-by-sentinelese-tribe

By:
lybertyne
When: 28 Nov 18 23:37
He did make a video beforehand asking his family not to blame the natives if they kill him.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 28 Nov 18 23:45
If the fisherman had killed him.....then he must had something on him to make it worth killing him?

If the island can be observed at a safe distance, perhaps someone may see the body of the missionary.
and somebody may be able to slip ashore and remove it, it would be risky if the Indians observed this.

Otherwise it is just guess work, nobody must contact these people, those are the rules.

I would expect the fisherman who took him to the island to be punished, they knew the rules.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:08
I see the fisherman aw him being killed, his body dragged and then buried.

So they should have some idea where his body is.

But there is still the problem and getting someone ashore to dig it up, risky.

A frogman at midnight if the location is known???
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:14
The natives should be taken to court, it’s possible there are millions of people like the Sentinelese living in London today
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 18 00:22
They have been known to dig em back up a few days after burying em before now, authorities are watching and waiting I think.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:23
How can they be taken to court if they cannot be contacted?

You could try them in their absence and find them guilty, butt they cannot be contacted, so no arrests can be made.


You think there are millions of Sentinelese living in London today.

That seems unlikely lfc1971
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:25
What do they do with the body once they have dug it up Saddo?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:25
What do they do with the body once they have dug it up Saddo?
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:25
There is probably no medical reason why they can’t be contacted , that’s just an excuse for their bad behavior
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 18 00:26
"like the Sentinalese", I think he meant savages.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 18 00:27
They propped one up with a stick on the beach, blue.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:33
Can you imagine what the world was like before the British empire ?
well that is what it was like
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 18 00:35
No underpants.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:38
In England ( in the past at least ) when you lay beneath a fir tree reading a book, you were praying

In Sentinelese they don’t do that , well they don’t have any books
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:40
That’s not good , that ought to be clear to even the most wooden of wooden heads
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 00:45
I wonder does it rain on the island , that would be nice and natural and consoling at least
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:46
Their island, their rules lfc1971?

I would doubt the Sentinelese know what a book is myself?


You think the British Empire was created to educate people lfc1971(and show them the benefit of underpants)

I think it was to make money myself.

To be fair the British Empire treated the natives of these countries we occupied a little better than some other

European countries.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:51
I would think it rains sometimes on their island, otherwise it would be barren.

No Indians at all, or any other animal or plant.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 00:56
If people think the fisherman murdered the missionary then threw him overboard, I would think finding his blood on the boat would


the only chance of proving this. Unless his body is washed up on some other island.


The police are not going to land on this island as it endangers the Indians, this threat is not hypothetical.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 01:01
That’s nonsense
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 01:02
the fishermen didn’t do it of course
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 01:06
You have only to read the account , it’s in the missionary’s own words
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 01:18
It’s a difficult prospect trying to civilise a secluded tribe but it a good thing to try
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Nov 18 01:56
Definition of 'civilise' required Plain
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 14:57
Very good Reynard

1] Human rights group Survival International said it was possible that Chau had infected the tribe with pathogens to which they have no immunity, "with the potential to wipe out the entire tribe".[


Chau was the missionary, this is an appalling to risk, he is no Christian with me. Jesus did not go around infecting people with plague.


If anyone thinks this not a risk.

Then a good example is the Spanish conquest of Central and South America.

As well as having a better weapons technology, horses, muskets better steel.

The Spanish best weapon was the dirt they carried with them. This caused great plagues among the S.American civilisations

at that time, preventing them offering co ordianted resistance to the Spanish.


It also affected our conquest of N.America, in the aerly Indian wars as we attempted to gain a foothold.

Again the Indians died in large numbers thanks to very dirt we carried.


Even though we are now cleaner, there could still be a risk posed to the Sentinelese Indians.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Nov 18 16:32
They should send a Drone inCool


Btw, how did this tribe manage to get to this isolated island 60,000 years ago?
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Nov 18 16:35
Maybe they were trafficked or maybe they were economic migrants Mischief
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Nov 18 16:36
This island may have had a benefits system that was 60,000 years ahead of its time ?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Nov 18 16:39
sea levels must have been much lowerPlain
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 16:48
ebul I think you will find there were no civilisations in South America before the European Christians arrived

do you know the aztecs sacrificed men,  women and children to their gods , to such an extent that the tears of the children fell down the beautiful mountainsides like rain
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Nov 18 16:52
Definition of 'civilisations' required Plain
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 16:56
Paris , France 1874 would be my definition of civilisation ( of course there are others but that is my favourite time and place )
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Nov 18 16:58
perhaps Britain 1965 comes close , or even surpasses
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Nov 18 17:14
Surely nobody in their right mind, so I'm excluding lfc, could argue with UBLE/REGY's 2:57 post.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Nov 18 18:58
lfc1971
29 Nov 18 16:48
Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 29,204 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
ebul I think you will find there were no civilisations in South America before the European Christians arrived

do you know the aztecs sacrificed men,  women and children to their gods , to such an extent that the tears of the children fell down the beautiful mountainsides like rain


Well the Incas of S.America did not do this.....
The Aztecs did do human sacrifice bur still had a civilization...
The Spanish were hardly much better they burnt non Catholics at the Stake
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