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Apparently a missionary. Fishermen took him to their island in the Indian Ocean and they shot him full of arrows on the beach.
It is illegal to try and make contact with the Sentilenese at all, so the Indian government will only be prosecuting the fishermen who took him there.
That seems reasonable in the circumstances IMO, the guy knew what he was getting into.
It is illegal to try and make contact with the Sentilenese at all, so the Indian government will only be prosecuting the fishermen who took him there.
That seems reasonable in the circumstances IMO, the guy knew what he was getting into.
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The Sentilenese have been separated from the rest of humanity for at least 40,000 years, and still live the same hunter gatherer lifestyle all humans did back then.
They have no immunity to most human diseases, as most human diseases have only appeared in the last 12,000 years. Any attempt to contact them they resist with warning shots of arrows, and then fatal shots. After the 2004 tsunami the Indian government though they may all have been wiped out ,so they sent a helicopter. They found the tribe was OK when their helicopter was showered with arrows, and it appeared they had moved to higher ground before the tsunami began. |
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An American national John Allen Chau, was allegedly killed by Sentinelese tribals on Andaman islands. The Sentinelese tribe, which is protected under the Andaman and Nicobar Islands (Protection of Aboriginal Tribes) Regulation Act, 1956, are known to be the world’s last ‘uncontacted’ people – a vulnerable and numbered tribe which has a history of resisting contact with the outside world.
Jatin Narwal, Superintendent of Police (HQ) at Port Blair, told TNM that John was last seen alive on November 16, as per the fishermen who took him to the North Sentinel island, a reserved area, where entry is prohibited without explicit permission. According to a press statement by the Andaman police, 27-year-old John had decided to visit the Sentinelese with the help of local fishermen. He reportedly took their help and hired a fishing dinghy at Chidiyatapu area after which he ventured forth in his own canoe. “We got information that he has been killed by the Sentinelese people. We have registered two FIRs. The first under section 302 (murder), and another FIR has been registered against the locals who had taken him to that island under relevant IPC sections and the Protection of Aboriginal Tribes Regulation Act,” Jatin said. "He lived in Alabama, US. He is some kind of paramedic. He was on a misplaced adventure in prohibited area to meet uncontacted persons. People thought he is a missionary because he had mentioned his position on god and that he was a believer on social media or somewhere online. But in a strict sense, he was not a missionary. He was an adventurer. His intention was to meet the aborigines," Andaman DGP Dependra Pathak told TNM. The DGP added that his body has not been retreived yet. "His body has not yet been retreived because we have to strategise keeping in mind the nuances and sensitivity of other cultures We are working on that, and are in contact with anthropologists and tribal welfare experts. We will figure out some strategy," he said. He added that seven local fishermen who facilitated John have been arrested. SP Jatin Narwal said that John had a Bible on him, according to the fishermen. "He went to the North Sentinel island on November 15 and 16th multiple times. He had some handwritten notes and he gave it to the fishermen. He wanted them handed over to a friend in Havelock Islands." The SP refused to disclose details of what was on the notes and said they were part of investigation. Police officials refused comment on whether the members of the Sentinalese tribes could be prosecuted. |
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Trump should nuke 'em.
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At least they can't be bombed back to the stone age, as they are already there.
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Thought there were quite a few uncontacted tribes in South America ?
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There may be, but I think all the ones that are known of have accepted some sort of meeting with authorities.
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Cheers tobermory hadn't even heard of them here.
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I think i'm married to one of them
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apparently there are 44 uncontacted tribes in West Papua
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and not one man utd shirt among em
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They certainly know how to deal with illegals.
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Trump said he's met their leader at the UN, apparently he is a very very good man.
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Why don`t they just leave them alone. Probably happier than any "civilised" person on the Planet. Leave them alone.
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Agreed. Leave them be. Bit like the knifemen of London.
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DailyMail.com has since obtained the letter Chau wrote to his parents, as well as several journal entries, he penned prior to his death that detail how he was committed to teaching the tribe about Jesus.
'You guys might think I'm crazy in all this but I think it's worth it to declare Jesus to these people,' he wrote in the letter to his parents. 'Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed. 'Rather please live your lives in obedience to whatever he has called you to and I'll see you again when you pass through the veil. This is not a pointless thing - the eternal lives of this tribe is at hand and I can't wait to see them around the throne of God worshiping in their own language as Revelations 7:9-10 states. 'I love you all and I pray none of you love anything in this world more than Jesus Christ.' Chau signed off the letter with his name and 'Soli Deo gloria', which is Latin for Glory to God alone. The letter is dated November 16, which is one day after the fishermen said they first took him to the island. Dependera Pathak, director-general of police on India's Andaman and Nicobar Islands, said Chau organized his visit to the island through a friend who hired seven fishermen for $325 to take him there on a boat, which also towed his kayak. He went ashore in his kayak on November 15 and sent the boat with the fishermen out to sea to avoid detection. Chau interacted with some of the tribespeople, offering gifts such as a football and fish but they became angry and shot an arrow at him, hitting a book he was carrying. After his kayak was damaged, Chau swam back to the fishermen's boat, which was waiting at a prearranged location. He spent the night writing about his experiences on journal pages that he then gave the fishermen. He set out again to meet the tribespeople on November 16 and never returned. Pathak said the following day the fishermen watched from a distance as the tribesmen dragged Chau's body away. Chau's journal entries - dated between November 14 to 16 - have shed some light on what occurred when he first arrived at the island, including how he initially panicked when he saw the tribe's bows. He detailed how he tried to offer fish to the tribesmen before 'two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling'. He said he came face to face with the islanders and at one point was 'just inches' away. 'They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered "My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you",' he wrote. 'I regret I began to panic slightly as I saw them string arrows in their bows. I picked up the fish and threw it toward them. They kept coming. 'I paddled like I never have in my life back to the boat. I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed. They didn't accept me right away. ' He later wrote: 'Well, I've been shot by the Sentinelese… By a kid probably about 10 or so years old, maybe a teenager, short compared to those who looked like adults. Describing the attack, Chau said: a 'little kid shot me with an arrow - directly into my Bible which I was holding. 'If you want me to get actually shot or even killed with an arrow then so be it. I think I could be more useful alive though… 'I don't want to die! Would it be wiser to leave and let someone else continue? No. I don't think so. I still could make it back to the US somehow as it almost seems like certain death to stay here.'God, I don't want to die. WHO WILL TAKE MY PLACE IF I DO? OH GOD I miss my parents... 'Why did a little kid have to shoot me today?.. Father, forgive him and any of the people on this island who try to kill me...' He appeared to detail the moment he was initially shot at, saying: 'I heard the whoops and shouts from the hunt. I made sure to stay out of arrow range, but unfortunately that meant I was also out of good hearing range.'So I got a little closer as they (about 6 from what I could see) yelled at me, I tried to parrot their words back to them. They burst out laughing most of the time, so they probably were saying bad words or insulting me. 'They were also yelling into the forest behind the hut which they made in drumming sound, if I can recall. Perhaps their men were away which would explain why the only ones yelling at me looked fairly juvenile.' He wrote: 'I spotted one man wearing a white crown or something (flowers maybe?) on his head and he also took a seemingly leadership stance... yelled at me. Leadership stance meaning he climbed atop the tallest coral rock to yell.' Indian police said a murder case had been registered against 'unknown tribesmen', while seven people - the fishermen who took him to the island - have been arrested in connection with Chau's death. The Sentinelese who killed Chau can't be prosecuted as contact with them and several tribes on the islands is illegal in a bid to protect their indigenous way of life and shield them from diseases. |
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Did they eat him...I don't know if they are cannibals
A brave thing to do, too brave.. |
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He has been warned
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The two things that have caused the most death and destruction in the so-called civilised world are disease and religion . So this clown decides to intentionally introduce the latter and very possibly , albeit unintentionally , the former . With this in mind surely the tribesmen were well within their rights to eliminate him .
As for 'the eternal lives of this tribe' , the way this planet is going they'll be here long after the rest of mankind has perished . 'Soli Deo gloria', which is Latin for Glory to God alone. .... Not a million miles away from "Alluha Akbar" which translates as 'God is Greatest' . Maybe they mistook Mr Chau as a terrorist  |
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Stupidity a better word than brave I think on reflection
I hope it was not Ben Fogle on one of his 'New Lives in the Wild' program I would miss that |
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Would make for an interesting Bushtucker Trial . Probably break all records for voting lines
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They should divert some of them NGO taxis.
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There's a Costa Coffee there apparently
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hope the parents cherish his Darwin Award, it's what he would've wanted.
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If he wants to convert unbelievers people with backwards beliefs he could start with people who think "grime" is music.
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The family of a US man reportedly killed by arrows fired by members of an endangered tribe in India's Andaman and Nicobar islands have said they forgive those who killed him. In a statement, they said John Allen Chau "loved God, life, helping those in need, and had nothing but love for the Sentinelese people". Mr Chau's family released a statement on Instagram, saying he had gone to the island of "his own free will".
"We also ask for the release of those friends he had in the Andaman Islands. He ventured out of his own free will and his local contacts need not be persecuted for his own actions," the statement said. |
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Its a win win for the religious nutters. You either save their souls or die a martyr.
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most mums would be in hysterics and inconsolable before musting up enough strength to yell obsenities as the perpetrators and vowing revenge/justice. Bible belt in American somehwat different, we forgive you, Amen. Carries on doing the washing.
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arrowman haiku
one man in a boat communication breakdown tribesmen made good points |
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I'm afraid he got what he deserved;he deliberately put himself into a situation where he must have known he'd be killed.A nutter if he really believed he was going to convert them.
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A nutter if he genuinely believed that there was anything to actually convert them to
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Sure these sentileeserists are the crew that come to the mother in laws every chrimbo to dip thar speers in her soup ,can confirm the poor chap had no chance .
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Way back in the day christians went out to convert heathens, and died, it's not that different.
A devout christian will likely believe he's doing them a favour as if he converts them he'll save their eternal soul etc. I mean it has worked in the past. Christianity tends to have been spread by men like him, unlike the religion of peas which seems have been spread by force. I mean didn't people turn up and covert vikings from the Norse gods and so on, never mind in africa. |
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The natives were equally dangerous in Africa
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Wouldn’t it have been better if he came back home after he was shot at with an arrow directly into his bible
quite a good story maybe his prayers had been answered but he pushed his luck |
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For some reason I just had a mental image of the demise of the ships captain in Black Adder when he jumped onto the beach full of natives :)
What was the quote, "he made a third rate sailor, but a first rate second course". |
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You really think Christianity wasn't spread by force ?
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It depends what you mean , you may as well say the English language was spread by force , or football , or cricket , or Agatha Christie novels
I don’t know |
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Look at it this way , if we set aside the possibility of infectious deceases ( just in the abstract )
Then is it not prefererable that these people have the possibility of reading an Agatha Christie novel ? |