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By:
ufcdan
When: 07 Nov 18 20:04
The last person to see her alive
By:
tobermory
When: 07 Nov 18 20:25
The most significant thing to me is that although she was killed at her own front door she was no longer living there. She had been living at her partner's place for months.

She visited her own house only 2 or 3 times a week. So a random nutter who knew that was her house would in all probability have to wait in the street for a day or so. But we know the guy was only hanging about for 40 minutes. And it might have only been 5 minutes had Jill not made a trip to the shops on the way.

So either a stalker nutcase landed a long odds chance in arriving the same hour she did or the killer knew she was on her way.
By:
Baphornet
When: 07 Nov 18 20:25
Either a hot or she really upset someone at the BBC
By:
Baphornet
When: 07 Nov 18 20:26
*hit
By:
casemoney
When: 07 Nov 18 21:39
THE SAVILE CASE  ,was she about to open the Box ?
By:
Baphornet
When: 07 Nov 18 21:41
glad you spotted my cryptic clue, casemoney
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Nov 18 22:21
Check out 'Kill Jill' vol I~IV . Several interesting theories but I lean towards the possibility that Crimewatch may hold the answer .
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 07 Nov 18 22:27
I don't think anyone knows for sure

They arrested one man and convicted him, as he seemed to fit the profile, but the evidence was a bit circumstantial and he was cleared
on appeal.

Plenty of conspiracy theories, take your pick?
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Nov 18 22:36
Plenty of conspiracy theories, take your pick?

Not 'theory' . It was a conspiracy , but just a question of who the conspirators are . My money is one high level 'establishment' body or another but , like you say , take your pick .
By:
Ayedo
When: 07 Nov 18 22:36
Very hard to understand how it could be anything other than a hit.
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Nov 18 22:38
Who bankrolled the hit though ? That's the mystery Confused
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 07 Nov 18 22:40
ok conspiracy theories
By:
Reynard
When: 07 Nov 18 22:42
Remember , she worked for a corrupt organisation that were (and still are) involved in all manner of cover ups and while presenting Crimewatch was working alongside another corrupt organisation that were (and still are) up to their necks in all manner of cover ups !
By:
tobermory
When: 07 Nov 18 22:51

Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:27PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


I don't think anyone knows for sureThey arrested one man and convicted him, as he seemed to fit the profile, but the evidence was a bit circumstantial and he was clearedon appeal.Plenty of conspiracy theories, take your pick?


Fitted the profile ? What profile ? The one of a random nutter landing a 20/1 chance that she would show up when he did. Profiling should be based on logic and probability, unfortunately Met detectives prefer hunches and 'gut feelings' the classic mug punter reasoning. A 'conspiracy' - that someone with a rational motive killed her or hired someone to do it - is clearly far more likely than a random stranger.

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 08 Nov 18 00:22
She presented Crimewatch, thousands of suspects.
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Nov 18 00:24
Barry Mercury has F.A to do with it that is a certainty ...
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Nov 18 00:25
I would say she was Followed on the Day of the Murder , As for Someone Killing her because of Crime Watch I don't think so .
By:
Slicer
When: 08 Nov 18 08:35
Whatever else it was, it was certainly the perfect murder. Not only did the killer escape the scene, someone else was convicted. It is well known that most murders are committed by spouses, family, acquaintances. If it is none of the aforementioned, the police are all at sea and dependent on "information"! With the passage of time I believe the killer will never be caught and we will never know what happened. Now, if the murder had taken place in Los Angeles, Cabot Cove or one of the Midsomers, Columbo, Ms Fletcher or Barnaby would of solved the crime in less than 2 hours (with ad breaks). I have to be flippant because Jill's murder was a terrible tragedy, and upset me greatly at the time. She seemed such a lovely lady and the perp has clearly got away with it. There is a theory that all perps leave something incriminating at the crime scene. This perp apparently did not. All points to a well thought out pro hit. Could not have been anything to do with the Beeb as an emblem of lefty loveliness would of been left as evidence at the crime scene.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Nov 18 09:46
Don't blame me TobermoryCry
It was the police made the mistake..

His case came on one of those mistaken justice programs...I don't know if that was crimewatch
He was cleared on appeal.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Nov 18 09:53
When I watched that program, I was not happy with his conviction myself, they made a good case

So was glad he was cleared on appeal

Although I don't know anything for certain??????????????????????
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 09:59
He had a gun
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:06
He was seen on the street by a least one witness
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:10
He told lies about not knowing the street , not having s gun , not knowing Jill Dando ,
Forensic evidence of gunshot on his jacket same as found at crime scene
clothing fibre found at crime scene matched his
Tried to obtain an alibi for his whereabouts at the time of the murder , couldn’t do it ..
By:
THEMONEYSHOT
When: 08 Nov 18 10:11
For the defence William Clegg QC reminded the jury that evidence from three women from HAFAD (Hammersmith and Fulham Action on Disability) placed the defendant's arrival at their offices at 11:50 or 12:00, which, according to Clegg's argument, would have made it impossible for him to have committed a murder at Dando's house at 11:30 and then gone home (in the wrong direction) to change. Two neighbours who almost certainly saw the murderer immediately after the shooting had seen him go off in this direction, and later failed to identify George at an identification parade. The trial ended with George's acquittal on 1 August 2008.


No further questions your honour.
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:13
Other witnesses at the centre said they thought he may have been there later in the day

No written or recorded time when he was there
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 08 Nov 18 10:16
thought serbians did it for revenge for a strike at a news station
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:17
Do we know where he was at 7:00 that morning when a witness said she saw him in the street ?
By:
tictacman1
When: 08 Nov 18 10:18
What happened that evening.....

Monday April 26, 1999



10.03am A postman delivering mail to Jill’s empty home at 29 Gowan Avenue, Fulham, notices he is being watched by a dark-haired man wearing a suit standing opposite.

10.05am Jill leaves her fiance Alan Farthing’s home in Chiswick to go shopping in nearby Hammersmith.

10.05am A traffic warden patrolling in the Gowan Avenue and Munster Road area spots a blue Range Rover parked illegally. She begins to note the number but stops when the driver protests. She erases the information.

10.10am A woman driver turning into Gowan Avenue notices a dark-haired man wearing a suit walking along the road. She is then followed at close quarters by a blue Range Rover before it stops near Fulham FC’s Craven Cottage stadium.

10.23am Jill is seen on CCTV stopping in her BMW convertible for petrol at a BP garage on the Great West Road.

10.40am A window cleaner working at 26 Gowan Avenue notices a man standing outside Jill’s house talking on a mobile phone. 10.46am Jill is seen at Rymans stationers in Hammersmith shopping mall.

10.55am She is spotted at The Link electrical shop. She also bought two Dover sole fillets. She received and made a number of calls during her shopping trip.

11.00am A blue Range Rover is again spotted parked in the Gowan Avenue and Munster Road area. A motorist driving along Gowan Avenue sees a dark-haired and smartly dressed man standing in the road speaking into a mobile phone.

11.00-11.29am While leaving home, a female neighbour of Jill spots a man, again dark-haired and wearing a suit, standing between parked cars. Another woman sees a man of similar description walking along Gowan Avenue.


11.30am After parking her blue BMW, Jill walks to her front door and is shot in the head. Two witnesses saw a man running from No 29. He was said to have thick black hair and be wearing a waxed jacket. by a 9mm calibre semi-automatic pistol.

11.32am CCTV images show a metallic blue Range Rover travelling at high speed down Fulham Palace Road.


11.40am A man is spotted crouching by railings in Bishops Park furtively talking into a mobile phone.

11.52am A motorist is forced to brake hard as a man runs across Fulham Palace Road from Gowan Avenue.

1.03pm Jill is pronounced dead at Charing Cross Hospital. A i m A m f J The bullet The e-fit suspect T The house Shopping trip S CCTV The gun The scene D






Jill Dando timeline.....


April 26, 1999, 11.30am Jill’s shot dead with single bullet to the head outside her home in Fulham, South West London.
May 25, 2000 Police arrest Barry George, also known as Barry Bulsara, following surveillance on him.
July 2, 2001 A jury finds George guilty of murder on a 10-1 majority. He is later sentenced to life imprisonment.

July 29, 2002 George loses an appeal against his conviction at the Court of Appeal in London.
December 16 House of Lords refuses permission for George to mount a further challenge.

March 25, 2006 It is revealed lawyers for George have submitted new evidence which they believe undermines safety of his conviction.
June 20, 2007 Criminal Cases Review Commission refers the conviction to the Court
of Appeal.

October 29 Foreman of the jury that convicted George in 2001 says he might have been found not guilty if crucial evidence linked to firearms residue found in his pocket was presented differently.
November 5 George begins second appeal.

November 15 George’s appeal is upheld and a retrial ordered after scientists challenge firearms evidence.
June 9, 2008 Retrial begins at the Old Bailey with the judge ruling out the inclusion of the residue evidence.
August 1 George cleared of the Crimewatch presenter’s murder. He loses bid for compensation in 2013.


February 2014 Serbian assassins linked to the murder.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 08 Nov 18 10:19
Jurors heard that George had an IQ of 75 - in the lowest 5% of the population. In memory and other tests, he came in the bottom 1% of the population.

The defence argued that he was incapable of such a sophisticated killing, which involved detailed planning and specialist bullets.


i.q. of 75 still puts him above most people on this forum Crazy
By:
THEMONEYSHOT
When: 08 Nov 18 10:22
Firearms residue expert Professor Marco Morin says the single particle taken from Barry George's coat may not have even come from a gun.


He assumed the identity of 'Steve Majors' and claimed to be a stuntman; he convinced a stadium to stage a show in which he would jump over four double-decker buses on roller skates; he injured himself attempting this stunt.

LaughLaughLaugh What a legend.
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:22
He was arrested in 1983 outside Kensington palace hiding in bushes dressed in combat clothing carrying a length of rope and had a knife in his belt
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:24
The particle found by on his clothing was the same as that found at the murder scene
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:26
The fibre of clothing found on Jill Dandos coat was the same as trousers found in his app
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 08 Nov 18 10:30
yeah that fibre one is difficult to get past

The raincoat had been left lying on the ground for between six and nine hours after the murder, Robson suggested. The fibre might have been dropped by anyone passing. "It could have come from the suits or trousers in Miss Dando's wardrobe or from [her fiance] Alan Farthing's wardrobe," he said. "It could have been contaminated by people walking past [on the path]."

really? seems more likely it was someone who was directly in contact with her when she was murdered.

seems evidence against George was flimsy and he was of low intelligence but still not certain he didn't do it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:30
Any evidence of Serbian assasins ?
By:
THEMONEYSHOT
When: 08 Nov 18 10:31

Nov 8, 2018 -- 10:30AM, lfc1971 wrote:


Any evidence of Serbian assasins ?


Exactly these Serbian guys are good.

By:
leazes67
When: 08 Nov 18 10:35
lfc1971...if ya gonna comment on this at least do some research,everything you have posted has been disproven.
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:36
Everything I have posted is fact
By:
lfc1971
When: 08 Nov 18 10:37
Those are the facts
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