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By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Nov 18 09:26
2nd ref is the only way that a no deal hard brexit would go thru.
By:
anxious
When: 09 Nov 18 09:44
Respect the vote that Britain made 2 years ago ,  we voted to leave  and that should be the way forward , i hope that the Labour Leadership  who i think have been anti-eu most of their lives do not call for 2nd referendum
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Nov 18 12:28
The Labour Party are so desperate to be in power - I sincerely hope not given the present lot of political lightweights on the Shadow Cabinet Bench. However, I also believe they would do whatever necessary to achieve that, and offering a 2nd Referendum as inducement to the public is pretty high on their list despite its leader and Shadow Chancellor are closet 'brexiteers', I firmly believe.

The integrity and respect of Britain will be shot to pieces if Britain renege on her decision to exit The EU at this stage.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Nov 18 11:10
A momentum for a 2nd Referendum especially from The Labour Party stooge Mr Starmer. If so, The labour Party will regret their decision for ever as droves and droves of their supporters including myself will desert them for good. I just want full autonomy for Britain and not dictated to by the un-elected bureaucrats of The EU especially representatives those from countries of moderate economic value/power eg Luxembourg and Poland to name two.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 12 Nov 18 12:18
I voted remain, but in disgust of a second vote I would vote leave.

Everyone knew what we were votig for last time so there is no reason to re vote.
By:
Hanx
When: 12 Nov 18 13:08
It really does all depend on what the options on the ballot paper are - and even then there will be no end of further questions to answer.

Remain in the EU? Can we? On what terms? Signing up to what future? This would NOT a vote for the status quo.

If anyone thinks a second referendum will be the end of the Brexit issue they've got another thing coming.
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 13:14
they have never been prepared for a NO vote and never been prepared for a no deal exit

both politicians and, especially, the civil service KNEW we would have a yes vote

so how did that turn out

now you see why it is such a mess - the idea of leave does not even enter their tiny EU biased brains
they have had TWO YEARS  - it is all about trying to crush dissent - to crush the Eu opposition
backed with eu propaganda and its money.
they blame everyone else but themselves

They even blame the voters for voting the wrong way
By:
nellie1970
When: 12 Nov 18 14:09
both sides talked bolox.the country voted to leave so its not hard lets just get out and move onAngryAngryAngry
By:
Baphornet
When: 12 Nov 18 14:57
it's hard to understand the PM's attitude to this. We know she's stubborn, we know she's a 'remainer' we also know she hasn't got long left in power whatever happens. Now unless she has hidden files on all her government ministers; she also knows she has little chance of getting her Chequers betrayal through Parliament. The question is: why does she persist? Arrogance - bloody mindedness? Does she really want to drag her government and party down over this just for her own self-satisfaction?
By:
dambuster
When: 12 Nov 18 16:18
She'll get ruined. and rightly so, she's a traitor
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Nov 18 16:22
I think the repercussions from a u-turn to remain will be far more severe than to exit as The EU bureaucrats will put obstacles and odious conditions for us to stay eg financial penalties and the forfeit of our original status in The EU ie Britain will have no options but to accept; a brexit will at least allow Britain to manage our "own destiny" rather than dictated to the hawks in The EU for the foreseeable future.

The facial expressions of Mr Tusks disgust me every time he speaks negatively about Britain, a country many times more successful economically, financially and constitutionally.
By:
dambuster
When: 12 Nov 18 16:29
Shame we haven't got someone like Farage to negotiate our exit. Thatcher would have eaten the EU alive
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 18:44
the words from barinierstormfuher about using the eu against recalcitrant nations and tusk's blathering about the 'brownshirts' his words!!   They sure sound like they want to start a war.   Funny  - I thought we were all one happy family in the eu.

simply - they do not like to even be questioned - let alone  ever changing their despicable monopoly of ideas.
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 18:45
sorry that should read about using an eu army against etc
By:
A_T
When: 12 Nov 18 19:43
I think a lot of remainers might now vote leave because of the attitude EU leaders and bureaucrats have shown towards the negotiations and towards the UK in general. They have tried to humiliate the UK.

what a far cry this is from what the brexiteers said would happen. in their minds the UK held all the cards and the EU would be coming to us with a begging bowl
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Nov 18 19:48
That’s what they are doing
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Nov 18 19:50
Last time I looked they wanted 40 billion off us
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 19:56
and the rest

ditch them - lets go free and swing  - swinging landan as was --
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 20:06
we have regular french markets and know one or two of the people who bring their delicious HUGE garlic over

they are doing their nuts

the Norman cbi is  incandescent -
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Nov 18 21:28
2nd Vote for Norn Eire  90 % voted to stay that should sort the Border Problem
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 21:29
Europe must 'become an Empire' to rival China and the US, a French minister said yesterday.

Economics and Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said the EU must project its power around the globe to promote peace and protect the environment.

He told German newspaper Handelsblatt: 'It's about Europe having to become an Empire, as China is.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Nov 18 22:12
What an absurd comparison, Europe and China? A fragmented multi-lingual and multi-culture inefficient organisation against a united China of unilingual, good work ethos, discipline and respect for one another, no chance.

I hope it is not the beginning of the (re-emergence) of Germany with a nationalistic dogma similar to the one responsible for the 2nd World War. It is concerning, but not totally surprising given the ever increasing authoritarian policies, behaviour and number of the EU bureaucrats.
By:
Baphornet
When: 12 Nov 18 22:21
if you think about who actually do at least try and stand up to Germany sorry the EU; it is 4 or 5 countries that have never forgiven them really for what happened in that war. The French don't count because they capitulated and are now Germanys greatest ally.
By:
moisok
When: 12 Nov 18 23:42
they were in the war also  remember Vichy  and what happened to trade unionists jews etc etc  hundreds of thousands of them

total support and now look at the drum banging going on   macron, barniersturmfuhrer, tusk(threatening) etc etc and the fifth column over here paid for by them


you ought to see the sky presenter tonight 1130 (the papers0  trying to defend the eu  - don't tell me sky and the bbc are neutral

it is pathetic
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Nov 18 16:56
Macron is all mouth and no substance - fur coat no knickers; talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. What has he done since he came to power? Zilch, where I'm concerned.

It is looking increasingly likely (almost a cert) 'brexit' could be upon us very, very soon on soundings from the media. It's reported Mrs May is speaking to individual Cabinet Minister tonight; t and c have been agreed with The EU,...just the i's and the t's to be dotted and crossed.

No unnecessary bureaucracy or un-elected self-serving EU politicians dictating to us. No celebration (yet) but prepping for it!
By:
dambuster
When: 13 Nov 18 17:11
If she's sold us down the river, the ministers will say no
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Nov 18 17:24
Get out 1st, sort out the (finer) details later. The EU boat will leak, and soon an exit cascade to follow from the other member countries.. I wonder - post UK brexit - The EU (Germany) would entertain Russia as a member to minimise the emerging power of China.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 13 Nov 18 17:40
Making a big deal of this isn't she?

2 years and she's cackling about finally getting a draft ffs

What a joke
By:
Ivor
When: 13 Nov 18 17:59
Wonce a leafer - all weighs a leafer.
By:
ufcdan
When: 13 Nov 18 19:34
What an absurd comparison, Europe and China? A fragmented multi-lingual and multi-culture inefficient organisation against a united China of unilingual, good work ethos, discipline and respect for one another, no chance. 

Don't think the Muslim Chinese are feeling particularly respected Mischief
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 13 Nov 18 20:09
Brexit : Live

https://tinyurl.com/yboe6qfr
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 13 Nov 18 20:21
David

LaughLaugh

Has she gone yet?
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Dec 18 18:51
No, she's not gone yet; she's facing a leadership challenge at the present time. But she'll win if the polls are correct; she'll step aside before the next General Election.

Let's hope the Brexit train will not be derailed - delayed possibly; Brexit with or without a deal, and call The EU bluff.
By:
lockup
When: 12 Dec 18 20:05
so if we had a 2nd referendum and the vote went with remain do we then have a 3rd one because the leave camp don't agree that the remainers knew what they were doing what a load of b......s DEMOCRACY is what counts without that we are sunk as a nation.
By:
11kv
When: 12 Dec 18 22:31
They need us.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Dec 18 23:13
The EU are sunk indeed: 17 out of 28 member states sill need supporting by the others. Once some of these 17 become economically more successful courtesy of the UK and the other 10 member states generous contributions annually is there an agreement of securing all the contributions they have received before they leave eg Poland ($8bn net 2016); another 15 years say, $75bn; in total 29 yrs membership (joined 2004) say, $175bn.

Will Poland be asked to pay back $175bn prior to 'Poexit'?
By:
wit-ham
When: 12 Dec 18 23:15
We all know if the remainers win a second vote that they didn't know what they were voting for

If anyone can tell me the state of this country in ten years time voting in or out(not the hokey kokey)
you will be a millionaire monge tout
By:
Baphornet
When: 07 Apr 19 14:29
sometimes it's good to reminisce from 5 months ago. And not so good when things you predict come very trueSad
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 07 Apr 19 15:05
What happens you get the Same result That is the Question , Fook mays deal, Should be in or out ,Do not under estimate the Power of Protest Plain
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