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Kate Andrews on Question Time last night said we spend less on policing in England and Wales than we do on Foriegn aid ! How fxxked is that ?
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Try this for size.We give India £98 million per year in foreign aid.They've just built the biggest statue in the world costing over £300 million.
V fxxked indeed, but we continue to view ourselves as both the nurse and the policeman of various countries of the world.....but only if it suits the current agenda!
How much does this lack of investment actually cost us ? Watched a programme this morning on insurance fraud which apparently adds £50 to all of our premiums. Then there's car crime, your 10k car gets nicked, you a pay out of 6 or 7k if your lucky. The lack of policing costs us all. Ringfenced foreign aid has to stop. Not got a problem sending aid to wartorn areas or earthquake victims but to allocate a set amount is just plain wrong 
India and Pakistan run Necular, and Space programmes, costing billions, they are building nuclear-armed submarines - costing billions.
They have been at war (over Kashmir) since 1947 spending billions to this day...and the not small matter of thousands of lives. Siachen is the highest-altitude battlefield in the world. Pakistan and India spend billions in order to maintain troops there, with India spending a comparatively much higher amount because its troops are camped on a glacier and have to be supported by a fleet of helicopters. The 'high altitude clothing for their troops costs supplies by helicopters ets
Does 'foreign aid to these two mean we are supporting war on two fronts???
They have been at war (over Kashmir) since 1947 spending billions to this day...and the not small matter of thousands of lives. Siachen is the highest-altitude battlefield in the world. Pakistan and India spend billions in order to maintain troops there, with India spending a comparatively much higher amount because its troops are camped on a glacier and have to be supported by a fleet of helicopters. The 'high altitude clothing for their troops costs supplies by helicopters ets
Does 'foreign aid to these two mean we are supporting war on two fronts???
Have to say I'm furious about this so an email to my MP will soon be on its way
The 'high altitude clothing for their troops costs hundreds of millions.*
Sending millions in 'aid' to a country that has its own space programme has got to be the most bizarre policy 
Just to add salt.....By 2021 we could be spending about £14.5 billion a year on foreign aid, based on the Office for Budget Responsibility’s forecasts. Yet they tell us 1p on tax will save the NHS.
Funded ISIS in Syria, albeit indirectly. Money went to police forces in rebel held areas. All the money was paid in cash, apparently half went to paying the police weapons etc. The other half was given to ISIS so they wouldn't misbehave in the area being policed 
Yes dan there are thousands of ONGOING misappropriation, For every hundred pounds that’s made in the UK, seventy pence goes towards foreign aid.
Another way to say this is that the government has a target to spend 0.7% of the UK’s Gross National Income on overseas development aid each year. Gross National Income (GNI) is the UK’s annual output of goods and services, plus any income we get from abroad.
In 2016, the UK spent £13.4 billion on overseas aid, in line with the 0.7% target.
Another way to say this is that the government has a target to spend 0.7% of the UK’s Gross National Income on overseas development aid each year. Gross National Income (GNI) is the UK’s annual output of goods and services, plus any income we get from abroad.
In 2016, the UK spent £13.4 billion on overseas aid, in line with the 0.7% target.
It's like a council budget - make sure you have spent it all (your quota) by april/financial year !!
Whatever happened to charity begins at home ? Whoever anyone voted for I expect most of us voted for the MP/Party we thought would make our lives better in THIS country
Try this for size.We give India £98 million per year in foreign aid.They've just built the biggest statue in the world costing over £300 million.
I saw this a few days ago, unbelievable how big it is, nearly twice as big as Big Ben.
I saw this a few days ago, unbelievable how big it is, nearly twice as big as Big Ben.
Yeah in the middle of nowhere, nearest hotel about 80 miles away although there is plans for a hotel complex. As far as us given India aid I'm not sure we do anymore, however I know they used to give our money to other countries they deemed to need foreign aid
The only problem I have with foreign aid is I have little faith in governments from certain countries apportoning the donations to the areas/people that need it most, imo Britain would be better off directly being allowed to contract companies to build schools/hospitals/homes /delivering medical equipment instead etc
Yes dan I believe 'aid' to India has stopped but has increased to Pakistan by 1oo million!!.... 2 years ago Pakistan announced it would buy eight new submarines at a cost of around £4billion, with the country expected to lavish more than £10billion on new weapons by 2024. BTW Pakistan are the biggest recipient of this so called aid
Scanda - "I saw this a few days ago, unbelievable how big it is, nearly twice as big as Big Ben".
Big Ben is less than 8 feet high
- I know what your mean, but someone had to
Big Ben is less than 8 feet high
- I know what your mean, but someone had to
As well as investing in policing we also need investment in prisons. We need spaces and staff in order to hand out long sentences instead of the short ones we currently have. We need segregation for prisoners who are dangerous and/or toxic to others.
welcome to the forum baphornet, very rare do new posters join these days, unless your old new.
old new as in, old - been here before under a different name, but new as in a new username. Well, that's used to be the way anyway when it was much easier to sign up, so I would guess you are new new
Dear Mr Loughton,
Watching Question Time this week Kate Andrews made a statement regarding the amount we spend on policing England and Wales. An amount it turns out to be less than we give in foreign aid ! Since moving to the Offington area I have given you my support and more importantly my vote. Whether a person votes Labour or Conservative I would suspect the majority of voters choose a party that they feel will make their lives better in THIS country !
It is not right citizens of this country are being placed in danger due to a recognised shortage of police when we are giving tax pounds to foreign countries, especially ones that show little or no loyalty to this country. Take Pakistan, I believe our aid budget for them is £105 million. A country that not only has a space program but is also taking a delivery of eight submarines from China. It is many years since I served in the submarine service thirty two to be precise so I'm not in touch with the cost of running a boat today. What I do know is the cost of running a sub back then was about £30,000 A day. So please enlighten me how the government can justify this use of tax pounds to a country unwilling to look after it's own citizens but willing to increase its military might in an already unstable part of the world.
I am not against aid for those in need. I strongly support the government's position of funding refugee camps due to the conflict in Syria, also to the recent earthquake victims in Indonesia. However I am strongly against the ringfencing of foreign aid, it only leads to corruption and waste and sadly leaves the citizens of this country and our county of not getting the services we deserve.
I look forward to your response.
Just fired this off to my local MP
Watching Question Time this week Kate Andrews made a statement regarding the amount we spend on policing England and Wales. An amount it turns out to be less than we give in foreign aid ! Since moving to the Offington area I have given you my support and more importantly my vote. Whether a person votes Labour or Conservative I would suspect the majority of voters choose a party that they feel will make their lives better in THIS country !
It is not right citizens of this country are being placed in danger due to a recognised shortage of police when we are giving tax pounds to foreign countries, especially ones that show little or no loyalty to this country. Take Pakistan, I believe our aid budget for them is £105 million. A country that not only has a space program but is also taking a delivery of eight submarines from China. It is many years since I served in the submarine service thirty two to be precise so I'm not in touch with the cost of running a boat today. What I do know is the cost of running a sub back then was about £30,000 A day. So please enlighten me how the government can justify this use of tax pounds to a country unwilling to look after it's own citizens but willing to increase its military might in an already unstable part of the world.
I am not against aid for those in need. I strongly support the government's position of funding refugee camps due to the conflict in Syria, also to the recent earthquake victims in Indonesia. However I am strongly against the ringfencing of foreign aid, it only leads to corruption and waste and sadly leaves the citizens of this country and our county of not getting the services we deserve.
I look forward to your response.
Just fired this off to my local MP
boxingthefox
In 2016, the UK spent £13.4 billion on overseas aid, in line with the 0.7% target.
The truth is this:
In 2016, the UK spent around 2.5% of national income on overseas aid, round number, according to the World Bank - of which 1.8% came from NOT GOVERNMENT. Absent communicable diseases and disaster relief, the UK government should get the feck out of peoples lives, stop rooking the taxpayer under the pretence that we have to be grateful to them for giving our money to foreigners for their chosen programmes like gifting a million a year to the Clinton and Carter foundations ( I kid you not ). The free market has got this covered.
In 2016, the UK spent £13.4 billion on overseas aid, in line with the 0.7% target.
The truth is this:
In 2016, the UK spent around 2.5% of national income on overseas aid, round number, according to the World Bank - of which 1.8% came from NOT GOVERNMENT. Absent communicable diseases and disaster relief, the UK government should get the feck out of peoples lives, stop rooking the taxpayer under the pretence that we have to be grateful to them for giving our money to foreigners for their chosen programmes like gifting a million a year to the Clinton and Carter foundations ( I kid you not ). The free market has got this covered.
Hey Bongo, thanks for that 'deeper' research, this is what chit chat is all about.
For the Stalkers on here,Yes I went to bed earlier but as usual did not sleep and got up again. HTH
For the Stalkers on here,Yes I went to bed earlier but as usual did not sleep and got up again. HTH
And People Knock Don Trumpton when he Says spending US money on Rich countries is Wrong .
Clinton and Carter foundations
Clintons have certainly Got a few Million ,How they obtained it is the Question , The people who our Luvvie
Friends said would help the Poor of the USA
Unreal
Obama the Black Super man who would Help the Black people of the USA,if any one can tell me how the average Black man in the
states benefited from his 8 years ,I am all ears .
Clintons have certainly Got a few Million ,How they obtained it is the Question , The people who our Luvvie
Friends said would help the Poor of the USA
Unreal Obama the Black Super man who would Help the Black people of the USA,if any one can tell me how the average Black man in the
states benefited from his 8 years ,I am all ears .
https://www.ucanews.com/news/indians-cry-foul-over-worlds-tallest-statue/83766
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^ Two more statues are being constructed in other BJP-ruled states. In Maharashtra, a 61-meter statue of Shivaji, the 17th century Maratha king who resisted Muslim rule, is being built, while Uttar Pradesh will host a 91-meter statue of Hindu god Rama. Each statue will cost an estimated US$300 million.
The statues are meant to placate Hindu feelings and help Modi's party in the national elections due next May, his critics say.
Hindus form 966 million or 80 percent of India's population of 1.2 billion. Muslims account for 172 million or 14 percent while Christians comprise 29 million or 2.3 percent.
The statues are meant to placate Hindu feelings and help Modi's party in the national elections due next May, his critics say.
Hindus form 966 million or 80 percent of India's population of 1.2 billion. Muslims account for 172 million or 14 percent while Christians comprise 29 million or 2.3 percent.
^^ The 182-meter-high Statue of Unity, the towering figure of India's first deputy prime minister and independence leader Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, is almost four times bigger than the 46-meter Statue of Liberty in New York.
BTW Dan, top letter! Let us know if he personally replies.
Boxingthefox, great to see you post , I always worry when you bonk off here , I was going to Down Royal today but the weather here is terrible for driving so staying home. Frank will be disappointed not getting his usual few quid off me.You take care and mind yourself..
BTW Dan, top letter! Let us know if he personally replies.
Cheers trilby, I'll post his response when I get it. Usually ten days or so. It's what we all need to do, hold our politicians to account. When I lived in America they used to reckon a written letter (long before email) was worth 600 votes. That's to say if someone took the time to write 600 other people felt the same way.
Cheers trilby, I'll post his response when I get it. Usually ten days or so. It's what we all need to do, hold our politicians to account. When I lived in America they used to reckon a written letter (long before email) was worth 600 votes. That's to say if someone took the time to write 600 other people felt the same way.
Tbf he usually replies in person or will put a hand written line on a standard letter. If he dosen't I'll chase him down at one of his street surgeries. Either way I'll let you know what he says.
The UK has just given IBILLION Aid to India, india are the ones funding 5G Which will kill most of us, how fooking clever is that
Also I'll add can't believe how little we spend on policing. Now please don't hold me to this as it's Diane Abbott's maths. If 300million would proving us with 10,000 extra police then the 105 million we give Pakistan would provide us with an extra 3,350 extra police. Not great given the amount of police we've lost but better than a poke in the eye with a red hot stick.
India terry..........isnt that a country that at this moment in time actually has aircraft aboard their aircraft carriers
There's another 3,500 police. Really please instead of talking sh1t on here take time to lobby your MP if you feel this is a ludicrous situation. As I have said I have no problem for us as a relatively rich country helping others in need be through war or natural disaster but when we have an increasing amount of homeless in this country, let's help them now. Not try to eradicate it by 2022 ffs.
£35,000,000 (35 Million) Spent EVERY SINGLE DAY on foreign aid. Once you know that, it's difficult not to view everything through that prism. e.g. when you hear about council cuts because of lack of funding. Think how many libraries or other services could be saved with just ONE DAYS WORTH of foreign aid money.
. Once you know that, it's difficult not to view everything through that prism. e.g. when you hear about council cuts because of lack of funding. Think how many libraries or other services could be saved with just ONE DAYS WORTH of foreign aid money.
or when there was a massive uproar (rightly so) over the £30 million wasted on Boris's garden bridge in London. All I could think was - so what? it's only less than one days worth of foreign aid!
Tbf only us could spend 30 million TALKING about a bridge
Im delighted to report that India has just unveiled the "Statue of Unity" twice as high as the Statue of Liberty and only costing £330 Million to construct and already being called a red herring,still they've got plenty to waste
To date my MP Tim Loughton has not answered my email so I shall be going to Shoreham by sea on Saturday to get the answer at his street surgery
Dear Mr Loughton,
Watching Question Time this week Kate Andrews made a statement regarding the amount we spend on policing England and Wales. An amount it turns out to be less than we give in foreign aid ! Since moving to the Offington area I have given you my support and more importantly my vote. Whether a person votes Labour or Conservative I would suspect the majority of voters choose a party that they feel will make their lives better in THIS country !
It is not right citizens of this country are being placed in danger due to a recognised shortage of police when we are giving tax pounds to foreign countries, especially ones that show little or no loyalty to this country. Take Pakistan, I believe our aid budget for them is £105 million. A country that not only has a space program but is also taking a delivery of eight submarines from China. It is many years since I served in the submarine service thirty two to be precise so I'm not in touch with the cost of running a boat today. What I do know is the cost of running a sub back then was about £30,000 A day. So please enlighten me how the government can justify this use of tax pounds to a country unwilling to look after it's own citizens but willing to increase its military might in an already unstable part of the world.
I am not against aid for those in need. I strongly support the government's position of funding refugee camps due to the conflict in Syria, also to the recent earthquake victims in Indonesia. However I am strongly against the ringfencing of foreign aid, it only leads to corruption and waste and sadly leaves the citizens of this country and our county of not getting the services we deserve.
I look forward to your response.
Just fired this off to my local MP
I will get a fxxking answer
Watching Question Time this week Kate Andrews made a statement regarding the amount we spend on policing England and Wales. An amount it turns out to be less than we give in foreign aid ! Since moving to the Offington area I have given you my support and more importantly my vote. Whether a person votes Labour or Conservative I would suspect the majority of voters choose a party that they feel will make their lives better in THIS country !
It is not right citizens of this country are being placed in danger due to a recognised shortage of police when we are giving tax pounds to foreign countries, especially ones that show little or no loyalty to this country. Take Pakistan, I believe our aid budget for them is £105 million. A country that not only has a space program but is also taking a delivery of eight submarines from China. It is many years since I served in the submarine service thirty two to be precise so I'm not in touch with the cost of running a boat today. What I do know is the cost of running a sub back then was about £30,000 A day. So please enlighten me how the government can justify this use of tax pounds to a country unwilling to look after it's own citizens but willing to increase its military might in an already unstable part of the world.
I am not against aid for those in need. I strongly support the government's position of funding refugee camps due to the conflict in Syria, also to the recent earthquake victims in Indonesia. However I am strongly against the ringfencing of foreign aid, it only leads to corruption and waste and sadly leaves the citizens of this country and our county of not getting the services we deserve.
I look forward to your response.
Just fired this off to my local MP
I will get a fxxking answer
When Teresa May was home secretary many years ago the Police federation were very strongly opposed to the Policing cuts pointing out that the 1st duty of government was to protect its own citizens whilst also pointing out that the amount spent on foreign aid dwarfed the Policing budget and that serious problems would occur in the future as a result of cutting the budgets too far and too deep but nobody would listen as the Government spin briefed the media against the Police and also may i add that around this time which was approx 6 -7yrs ago as i have been retired for 5 years now that not one Chief Constable spoke out against these cuts with my own CC stating at the time that we could manage the cuts,well now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Caught up with Tim Loughton today, expressed my feelings regarding the lack of money we spend on policing or lack of it and my opposition to ringfencing of Foreign Aid. He had no idea about Pakistans 8 new submarines that they are acquiring. He said he was not really in favour of sending money to Pakistan and that it had been greatly reduced. I bought up the lack of police in Hartlepool to which he replied a lot of forces are stuck in PFI deals which impacts on their budgets. At least May wont be getting his vote On a side note went and spoke to the Labour party, about ten minutes of me and they fxxked off
On a side note went and spoke to the Labour party, about ten minutes of me and they fxxked off
*Kate Andrews, regular mouthpiece for bbc/sky and representative of extreme right-wing think-tank IEA -- well played (although i'd have advised caution)
highlighting figures for Pakistan, purely at random of course, a plus
highlighting figures for Pakistan, purely at random of course, a plus
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