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By:
JOMO II
When: 31 Oct 18 16:56
Sticky... Sorry, no, I'm not with you, and I don't think you're with me. CryGrin

The story you mentioned was reported falsely
Is this the Daily Mail one (link above)? I'm not saying that story was false/fake. Is that what you think I was saying?
By:
stickyvicky
When: 31 Oct 18 17:10
You have pointed out the date differentials.
I said I hadn't forensically dissected the link I posted.
If the daily mail who are considered right leaning are posting fake news, then this is all new to me, thats basically what I'm getting at.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Oct 18 17:51
I said I hadn't forensically dissected the link I posted.

ffs - professor of Trumpology
By:
donny osmond
When: 31 Oct 18 17:55
If you went to the local pub and went over and over the same old crap, every day, like you do on here. You'd be on your own.

Maybe that's what's happened.




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By:
JOMO II
When: 31 Oct 18 18:46
If the daily mail who are considered right leaning are posting fake news, then this is all new to me, thats basically what I'm getting at.

Ah, ok.

No, I wasn't saying the Daily Mail story is fake news. I was saying that your first post is. 2 (100 ISIS terrorists have been taken had by Guatemala plod)  plus 2 (there's a big bunch of immigrants heading for the US) makes 5 (the terrorists were hiding in among the immigrants). 

Do you see what I'm getting at? You don't need to forensically dissect the article to work out it doesn't say the 100 bar stewards were hiding in among the caravan. That's why I asked you why you wrote that they were "hiding in the caravasion" and were "pulled out [of it]". Because neither of these things happened. Partiality just seems to cause this fabricated version of the truth in some people's minds - not just yours, sticky, and sorry if you feel I'm "singling you out"; wasn't my intention.

For the record - for I sense I'm coming close to being assigned a leftie/libtard/progressive ho ho ho/terrorist apologist label - I'm not "pro" caravan. I don't see any good in what's unfolding.
By:
stickyvicky
When: 31 Oct 18 19:22
As I have already stated I wasn't aware that the right were engaged in Fake News spreading, you have highlighted this.
WD, unfortunately you don't win a prize or get a medal.

Facts that are still in place

a) A caravasion is headed to the US from Honduras
b) Guatemala is the first stop en-route for the caravasion
c) 100 arab Isis terrorists have been arrested and deported from Guatemala days before it arrived in Guatemala

2 + 2 for me equals that these arab terrorists would join the caravan and head on for the USA
(similiar to how 1'000 of arab jihadi terrorists entered the EU on foot in migrant caravans)
There we differ.
Your 2 + 2 equals something else
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 31 Oct 18 19:40
If he had of built that wall like he promised he'd sitting back with a cigar laughing at all the poor people marching towards a better life, instead he's sending down thousands of soliders to beat them instead, #brokenpromises
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 31 Oct 18 19:50
I have to say this caravan thing is disturbing. The way the World is I can understand why people want a better life elsewhere and I don't blame them but it is not good. Too many people owning too much of the World's wealth is unhealthy for all of us, even in rich countries like ours.

Chump has definitely hit the zeitgeist again and would be smart to shut his stupid mouth on all other subjects where he just makes himself look like a chunt and concentrate on the caravan.
By:
nellie1970
When: 31 Oct 18 20:02
must be a lot of local pubs with people sitting on their own these days
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 31 Oct 18 20:02

Oct 31, 2018 -- 3:42PM, saddo wrote:


Studyform is as fair minded as most on here. I think like a lot of people if he can't think of owt good to say, he'd rather say nowt. I don't fully agree with his criticism of 'left'. Anyone against certain things is now called 'far right', that is a lot of people including me. Fair enough for them to assume that people using that label are politically opposite, ie left, and in a polarised country having just two labels is convenient for most.


Thank you, saddo, for recognising that.
As is usual, I'm not arguing anyone's case.
I tend to mention it when something ridiculous or unfounded is put on the forum and it's gone even more irritating than usual.
This seems to mean I'm disputing things that mostly I'm not. Most of it gets ignored, this thread just wasn't.

There's enough grief in the world without getting so indignant about whatever's in the Mail or bothering so many people who until recently weren't remotely interested in politics. Which if you think about it, is most of us.

Anyway all I'm saying is the constant muslim/BBC/corbyn/trump/tommy/etc stuff is boring. It might be OK the first few times or even if just rarely, but it never stops.
Some of it is possibly bots, most of it is by people who honestly believe they're fighting some sort of crusade.
Some people can plonk the message into ANY thread on ANY subject.

Sorry if I shouldn't say so. But there's way too much preaching to the converted and it isn't "debate" or even "conversation". It's just invited arguing.

It is possible that what I said earlier is true and that all this stuff is made by and perpetuated by people who make a nice living from it (media and journalists) and forums (like this one) and phone-ins and street gatherings produce the foot soldiers to keep the wages coming in.

By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 21:37
the problem is that is what it is -progressive propaganda  - however you look at it

mainly lies to keep the sheep in order
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 31 Oct 18 21:40
Or not, because that is part of the message.

The world is just one big mass of conspiracies.
By:
saddo
When: 31 Oct 18 21:48
mo, perhaps a few white media student chappies will pretend to go fluid to get the gigs.
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 21:51
I truly embrace the type  ( no stereotyping tho)  ho ho

and when you do - watch the fake fkrs run like hell

they don't really support K were people - they just follow it as it is so trendy

they iz scared of the truly bent peeple  but nearly half of blokes don't mind a bit of dalliance

not totally bi gay or anything but just like a bit of a splash  ha ha  ha
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 21:52
I speek from ex speariance
By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Oct 18 22:01
You're drunken self is talking shyte again.
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 22:08
so it woz use in the pub tonight

actuaray I rarely go out local  but you nose fk all about what I get up to or up me come to that

but most of the 'luvvies' and hangers on to the pc culture dislike the proximity of my type

they love to have a pet gay but they just spout the mantra but would never never go near it

it is the street cred they get from it they love
By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Oct 18 22:30
Hic hic Laugh
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 22:33
it is slimy homophobics like you who ruin it for the rest of us
By:
crystalhunt
When: 01 Nov 18 00:08
Oh Dear!
By:
akabula
When: 01 Nov 18 00:42
Ramruma
Funny how Trump has gone from boasting about his German and Scottish parents to complaining about immigrants. He's been so consistent on everything else.


What relevance does that have with an invasion of would be illegal immigrants?
By:
akabula
When: 01 Nov 18 00:52
What do you think Trump will do when the migrants reach the border?
By:
trilby22
When: 01 Nov 18 06:53
The Pentagon is sending over 5,200 troops to the border with Mexico as thousands of Central American migrants walk towards the US in a caravan.

General Terrence O'Shaughnessy said Operation Faithful Patriot would focus on Texas, Arizona and California.

President Donald Trump earlier said the "invasion" of migrants would find the US military waiting for them.

He also told Fox News that "tent cities" would be built to house migrants seeking asylum in the US.

"If they apply for asylum, we're going to hold them until such time as their trial takes place. We're going to hold them, we're going to build tent cities, we're gonna build tents all over the place," he said in an interview on Monday.

There are already 2,100 National Guard members at the border, sent after a previous request by Mr Trump in April.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46026050

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/10/29/developing-trump-send-5000-troops-border-operation-faithful-patriot/
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By:
JOMO II
When: 01 Nov 18 09:47
stickyvicky • October 31, 2018 6:22 PM GMT
As I have already stated I wasn't aware that the right were engaged in Fake News spreading, you have highlighted this.
WD, unfortunately you don't win a prize or get a medal.

Facts that are still in place

a) A caravasion is headed to the US from Honduras
b) Guatemala is the first stop en-route for the caravasion
c) 100 arab Isis terrorists have been arrested and deported from Guatemala days before it arrived in Guatemala

2 + 2 for me equals that these arab terrorists would join the caravan and head on for the USA
(similiar to how 1'000 of arab jihadi terrorists entered the EU on foot in migrant caravans)
There we differ.
Your 2 + 2 equals something else


You've done it again!!!

We do not know it as fact that the terrorists were rounded up days before the caravan entered Guatemala. Morales did not put a timescale on the round-up, and neither have the media. You've added the timescale yourself, because it best-suits your conclusion that the terrorists were readying to join the caravan and wreak havoc.
By:
stickyvicky
When: 01 Nov 18 10:27
^
Jeez, you must have been a difficult child when growing up.

-Secretary of Social Communication for the Presidency, Alfredo Brito, added that the data on the captures was 'protected information of National Security,'

-Brito asserted that the president mentioned the news 'because it is a work in coordination with the different intelligence and security agencies' 

Above are points 2 and 3 on the link I posted ( which I have already admitted I didn't forensically dissect )

How you can garner time lines from the above points makes you a better man than I.

I off out now to get a life, laters
By:
stickyvicky
When: 01 Nov 18 10:28
*I'm
By:
JOMO II
When: 01 Nov 18 12:51
I cannot garner timelines from the above. That is my point - you are the one who has added a timeline ("they were rounded up days before"). Sure, it can be your opinion that they were all rounded up and deported just days before the caravan came a-coming, but you do not know that for a fact.

I'm not really sorry you seem to find it such an unnecessary and frightful bore being to consider what facts are, and what the spreading of non-facts might lead to. But nevertheless - and at the risk of stirring memories of my difficult childhood spent constantly asking daddy whether it was a fact that Santa Clause was real - I have attempted to create a scenario which will hopefully illustrate - to some at any rate. Perhaps. Maybe. Well, never mind - the dangers of straying from facts.

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The scenario:

- Trump is holding a rally in Dallas, Texas next week
- A celebration march towards the rally has been arranged for those attending the march. It set off from Kansas last week and is currently passing through Oklahoma. It's on course to arrive in Dallas in time for Friday's rally.
- The Oklahoma Leftie has quoted the Sheriff of Oklahoma as saying his force has captured “close to 100 persons completely involved with white nationalism, with the KKK and we have not only detained them within our state border, but they have been sent back to their state of origin.” He was quoted as saying this during a meeting of all State police, held last week. 

From the Dallas Libtard Weekly:

Oklahoma Sheriff boasts about catching 100 KKK members as his state lays in turmoil amid thousands marching towards Dallas
- Oklahoma Sheriff Jimmy Morales boasted on Thursday that the state police had captured almost 100 KKK members - with most of them being sent back to their own State
- Deputy Sheriff, Alfredo Brito, added that the data on the captures was 'protected information of State Security,'
Brito asserted that the Sheriff mentioned the news 'because it is a work in coordination with the different intelligence and security agencies' 
- News comes as 4,000 Trump supporters made their way to the Texas-shared border in an effort to reach Dallas

From A leftie libtard posting on chit chat and linking to the above article:
"100 cuddly KKK members hiding in the pro-Trump march were pulled out and deported in Oklahoma a few weeks ago."

From the leftie libtard after it's suggested there's no evidence the KKK members were hiding among the Trump marchers...

Facts that are still in place
a) A march is headed to Dallas from Kansas
b) Oklahoma is the first stop en-route for the march
c) 100 KKK members have been arrested and deported from Oklahoma days before it arrived in Oklahoma

2 + 2 for me equals that these KKK members would join the pro-Trump march and head on for Dallas


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Any issues with what the leftie libtard poster has said?

If not, maybe we could go on to the next level... President Clinton has just tweeted that "criminals and unknown people wearing bed sheets" are mixed in with the Pro-Trump marchers, and I've just heard a commentator on Texas Leftie Today saying that the Trump supporters are bringing smallpox and leprosy with them to Dallas. Yikes!
By:
Just Checking
When: 01 Nov 18 13:31
As they cross the border will they be pushing a large wooden horse as a gift Confused?
By:
stickyvicky
When: 01 Nov 18 18:09
@11.51am

Interesting analogy, except your fictitious KKK members did not travel half way round the globe to join your march.
Maybe if you had have inserted cuddly Isreali Mossad assassins or Ukrainian Svoboda neo nazi's instead then these arrests and deportations would definitely be raising eye brows as to why they were there.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 01 Nov 18 18:17
This is just clickbait for the trumpets. Got to hand it to him though - he knows how to stoke the hate.
By:
stickyvicky
When: 01 Nov 18 18:21
Yep, he is so hateful that 6,000 Hondurans want to move permanently to his hateful run country.Crazy
By:
Hank Hill
When: 01 Nov 18 20:20
If you really give a sh!t about immigration to the US which I doubt you do, then why don't you check out the massive numbers of illegal immigrants that come via the airports and overstay - they are equally illegal.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 Nov 18 20:27
Rather than a wall, Why doesn't he just build a very wide trench along the border and fill it will Crocidiles, geniusCool
By:
jollyswagman
When: 01 Nov 18 20:27
Hank, how's junior?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 Nov 18 20:27
some water obviously wouldn't got amissGrin
By:
Hank Hill
When: 01 Nov 18 20:28
Good thanks jolly- still waiting on a heart surgery, but all is well Happy
By:
Just Checking
When: 01 Nov 18 20:35
Why not have a virtual wall that is a chain of propane flame throwers, motion sensor activated?

Hank might support that.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 01 Nov 18 20:45
only if you buy my accessories Grin
By:
Slicer
When: 01 Nov 18 21:35
He should do what we should of done at Calais. !. Paint a broad, long red line at the border. 2 Set up machine gun nests 20 yards behind the line. 3. Put up message boards in their own language stating that anyone crossing the border will be killed. 4. If anyone crosses the red line SHOOT!! They will either stop coming or there will be none left to cross the border!
By:
crystalhunt
When: 01 Nov 18 22:08
Why not let them in and deport an equal number of white supremacists.
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