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Seven men have been found guilty of grooming and abusing young girls in Rotherham over a seven year period.

Sheffield Crown Court heard how the men targeted and exploited the teenagers before subjecting them to to acts of a "degrading and violent nature".

One victim told police she had had sex with "at least 100 Asian men" by the time she was 16.

The men, all from South Yorkshire, were convicted of offences including rape and indecent assault.

One girl described being bitten and raped by two of the men in Sherwood Forest while "high as a kite" on drugs.

Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar, 37, Asif Ali, 33, Tanweer Ali, 37, Salah Ahmed El-Hakam, 39, Nabeel Kurshid, 35, Iqlak Yousaf, 34, and a seventh man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, were convicted after a trial.

An eighth man, Ajmal Rafiq, 39, was found not guilty of one count of false imprisonment and one count of indecent assault.

The convictions are the latest to come out of Operation Stovewood, the National Crime Agency's (NCA) investigation into child sexual exploitation in Rotherham, which has identified more than 1,500 victims.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-45980210

Yet the apologists are more worried about the likes of Sarah Champion and Tommy Robinson campaigning to put this to an end.

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By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Oct 18 15:38
One victim told police she had had sex with "at least 100 Asian men" by the time she was 16.

And yet your prime concern is someone owning an above average house price for the Luton area. Astonishing.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 15:42
PorcupineorPineapple - Different priorities to normal folk Shocked
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 15:46
they are FILTH ...so is this porky apologist traitor filth
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Oct 18 15:50
Talking of prime concern...some people's concern on learning that some men have been locked up for unspeakable crimes is to rush back to his laptop, log on to a betting forum and "have a go" against someone he doesn't know because he's accused his hero of something.


Imagine being that guy.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 15:51
Likewise some of us can be against all paedos, not just asian ones like some others on here.

Any chance you can be a little more specific please ? Blush
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Oct 18 15:52
Of course everyone is against all of them.

But do you not agree there is a pattern emerging here with regards to a common theme by the gangs? Or do you see it all as entirely random?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Oct 18 15:57
rey - my point is that whenever an Asian does something there's a dozen threads on here with dozens of responses from the usual suspects.

Whenever a white Brit does something then it's just tumbleweed. If you care so much about protecting kids why is your focus solely concentrated on the colour of the perp's skin? Are their victims more deserving of sympathy than - for example - the victim of the EDL guy a couple of weeks ago? If you care so much to spend so much time writing about these, why can you not be bothered to spend a second writing about those?


So yeah, some people seem to only care about child abuse when it fits an anti-muslim agenda that they are attached to. They don't care really. They just hate muslims and this helps their argument.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 15:58
Bearing in mind the fact that ONE child was raped by approximately ONE HUNDRED men , the knowledge within this specific community must be widespread ie. beyond the actual perpetrators .
Is there any evidence of these paedophiles being informed on by members of their own community , family members , co-workers etc. ?
If not then I would suggest that a vast majority of that community are complicit in their inaction and should be prosecuted where possible .
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Oct 18 15:59
PP, if you have cases of other gangs from different backgrounds doing similar things please post.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 16:05
PorcupineorPineapple • October 29, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
rey - my point is that whenever an Asian does something there's a dozen threads on here with dozens of responses from the usual suspects.

Any chance you can be a little more specific please ?

If you care so much about protecting kids why is your focus solely concentrated on the colour of the perp's skin?

Who mentioned the colour of their skin ?

Whenever a white Brit does something then it's just tumbleweed.

Child grooming / Gang Raping is type 1 offence . These are the offences we are referring to on this thread .
I believe you are referring to individual paedophiles which , although a serious and abhorrent crime , is different from the one in Huddersfield etc.

some people seem to only care about child abuse when it fits an anti-muslim agenda that they are attached to

Government statistics and independent research shows that 84% of those convicted for this specific Type 1 offence are of Pakistani-Muslim heritage . No agenda .
By:
jumper3
When: 29 Oct 18 16:28

Oct 29, 2018 -- 3:36PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Jesus wept. What a pathetic little man you are.Your only angle is to use some young people suffering unimaginable horror to have a go at unknown, anonymous people on the internet pointing out Yaxley Lennon's recent million pound house purchase and proposed million pound US tour and the possibility his interest in this is financial rather than being some kind of unpaid do-gooder.


I'm not one of the usual suspects, not at all. You though are playing the deflection card. Poorly as well.

By:
dustybin
When: 29 Oct 18 16:30
The office of children’s commissioner (https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk) from 2012 state that of the children effected by ‘grooming’, 36% identified their attackers as ‘white’, 27% as Asian, 16% as black and 16% as unspecified.
The Office for National Statistics for the 2011 Census of ethnicity (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/ethnicity/articles/2011censusanalysisethnicityandreligionofthenonukbornpopulationinenglandandwales/2015-06-18)  state ‘whites’ constituted 86% of the population, while just 8% were classified as Asian.
That means that whites outnumbered Asians by more than 10 to 1, yet ‘only’ were identified in abhorrent acts against children 9% more of the time. Thats a massive disparity, which shows the reality of the issue.
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 16:32
will this make the BBC.. 6 .o .clock news and if ... how many minutes will they spare... im guessing.. 1
By:
dustybin
When: 29 Oct 18 16:32
By those figures which are the official ones for the period 2011/12 the likelyhood of a child being groomed for sex is 10 times more likely the attacker to be asian.
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 16:34
we all know the FILTH are at it all over the country NOW
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 16:41
dustybin , the figures you quote are from 2011/2012 . I'm not sure if this is specific to grooming 'gangs' or includes grooming by lone individuals .
The figure of 84% comes from official government figures which back up previous findings of the Quilliam Foundation report .
By:
Injera
When: 29 Oct 18 16:51
Reporting restrictions were in place until sentencing. If that doesn't send shivers down your spine nothing will.

All part of the massive cover up. Keep the public in the dark to this national disgrace.

This will get a few hours coverage then it will be back to Strictly latest and some bollox about a hate crime involving a wolf whistle.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 16:52
woundedknee • October 29, 2018 3:32 PM GMT
will this make the BBC.. 6 .o .clock news and if ... how many minutes will they spare... im guessing.. 1

If so , I'm sure that they will refer to the guilty as 'asian' rather than being more specific ........... a bit like PP , diluting the facts somewhat Whoops
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Oct 18 17:01
What is it about these men that means 100 of them can do this to underage girl and yet it can go for years undetected? How many others declined to take part but failed to inform the authorities or punch the perps on the chin?
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 17:06
Porcy must be gutted at having to keep deflecting attention away from these vermin. Using Robinson's house though  Laugh
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 17:07
Prisons nonce wings must be absolutely crammed with these filthy pakistani gangs
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 17:08
InsiderTrader • October 29, 2018 4:01 PM GMT

How many others declined to take part but failed to inform the authorities

That's what I was trying to convey earlier .
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 17:11
................. That's assuming that any declined to take part . Is it possible that this sickness (for that is what it is) is so endemic within their culture that all who are offered the opportunity actually participate ?
Sad
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 17:11
It is virtually impossible to be secretive in such a closely linked society, many of them know, and say nowt.
By:
BennyBinion1
When: 29 Oct 18 17:18
Idiots in KKK fancy dress outfits trying to get served in Wetherspoons, deemed a more important news item on the BBC news website headline page.
By:
lovegod
When: 29 Oct 18 17:21
If this carries on Yorkshire will soon be empty.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 17:24
My daughter will not live round here, North, and rural South Yorks will be ok for a generation or two. I thought I would be here for ever but doubt I will be here in 10 years they are closing in fast.
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 17:45
All of Yorkshire soon to be SAVILE TOWN  AngryShockedAngrySadCryShockedAngry
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 17:48
Just delete the 'SA' , re-named as apt Devil
By:
woundedknee
When: 29 Oct 18 18:03
Build a wall around the khazi
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Oct 18 18:16
Again, Pakistani men grooming and abusing white girls, why white girls only, and not others eg Chinese, Afro-Caribbean, etc, or even girls from their own community or Asian girls?

I'd imagine the retribution from the Chinese community will be so severe and disproportionate the perpetrators might not live to tell the tale, similarly, the Afro-Caribbean. Of course, the Pakistani men will not touch girls from their own community for obvious reasons similarly, other Asians.

I believe there is an underlying motive on the choice of only white (British I assume) girls and not European or other ethnicity. Let's hope post the completion of their sentences all non-British born perpetrators will be deported legally, and never to return. Also, the least privileges accorded whilst in prison.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Oct 18 18:24
Again, the only thing I'm seeing here is the gymnastics of some people trying to claim they care about paedophilia but still excuse why they don't write about any other cases.


Apparently, you can care more if it's been committed by someone in a gang or somesuch other tripe.


Again, look at how many replies this has got in the time. Now, someone point me to any other threads about child abuse from non-Muslims and how many replies they've had.


To paraphrase Obama: they don't care about child abuse. And this is how you know. Because if they did, they'd be up in arms about it every single time. Not just when it neatly fits their pre-conceived anti-Muslim agenda.


You can see how Yaxley-Lennon's got so rich off the back of it though.
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 18:25
impossible123 - As far as I'm aware there have been a number of cases involving Sikh girls . The Sikh community responded by forming 'protective groups' a number of which , I believe , were prosecuted for their actions .
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 18:33
Porcupine - You have once again , conveniently , failed to respond to my 3.05 post .
It is insufficient to come on here and spout your stuff without addressing earlier inaccuracies .
Again , white paedophiles are evil individuals , but the case headlined here is focusing on yet another grooming gang , which is a problem specific to mainly pakistani-muslim men . Yes , we have 'White-British' paedophiles , but they are an indigenous problem , whereas the grooming gang issue is a problem that we have imported much to the detriment of young british girls .
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Oct 18 18:43
So, you only care about child abuse if it's gang related or if it's by a non-indigenous person. Rightyho.

You call them evil but don't care enough to discuss them when they're in the news. You reserve that honour for those who speak funny or look different.

Your comment about "importing" them is the clincher. It's all about the agenda. If it's British people doing the abusing we don't hear a dicky bird from pretty much everyone on here. Soon as you hear the M word though...
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 18:45
3.05 ?
By:
Reynard
When: 29 Oct 18 18:49
PorcupineorPineapple • October 29, 2018 5:43 PM GMT
So, you only care about child abuse if it's gang related or if it's by a non-indigenous person.

No , it just so happens that this is the subject of this thread .................

You call them evil but don't care enough to discuss them when they're in the news

I would be happy to on the relevant thread ..................

Your comment about "importing" them is the clincher. It's all about the agenda.

No agenda . There is no disputing the fact that those of pakistani-muslim descent are NOT indigenous and therefore , by definition , they have been imported and at a greater rate in recent years .
By:
jed.davison
When: 29 Oct 18 18:49
LOL he won't respond to that Reynard, he'll just carry on calling you a racist.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 29 Oct 18 18:50
PP,

If someone you knew, a cousin a co-worker etc, told you they had a child under their control and were you interested in joining in would you do anything about it?

This is the crux of the issue. If 100 members of the community can be involved in a racially motivated attack do you not see this is different from a single sicko acting alone?

Do you acknowledge that at all or do you just categorise all child abusers the same?
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