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Well said aka
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As Aka says it was for WW1.
The great sadness is that we keep going to war, never learning from history. The red poppy has certainly been politicised. Govts demand our support for 'our boys', 'our heroes' in the waging of political conflicts that have little or nothing to do with defending these islands. The mandatory wearing of poppies by all and sundry in the media and politics is mere propaganda imo. I have no feelings either way about a different colour poppy. I just wish our troops would be used to defend us and not to destabilise an already unstable world. |
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Govts demand our support for 'our boys', 'our heroes' in the waging of political conflicts that have little or nothing to do with defending these islands.
Whats that got to do with the Red Poppy? Saying it's been politicised is another red herring. |
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It wasn’t for WW1
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Aka is right
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I think originally it was for WW1 but now it's certainly a general thing.
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Of course we all no know that , but injera didn’t say that
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Blair wearing a poppy laying a wreath at the Cenotaph is as political as it gets.
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The organisers of the Red Poppy appeal are in no way trying to legitimise any war.
They merely reflect the loss of life and use the cash raised to help those who survived but were injured in the process. |
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everyone in Britain can choose to wear a poppy or not , even Blair
That’s how it is |
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The ar*ehole who was in the papers the a few days ago for politicising and turning his sick stepson in a pro EU social media stunt appeared on telly to defend himself, and had a poppy badge, 2/3 way through october. I just thought it was just more virtue signalling from an ar5e who can't stop digging a hole for himself....
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I don’t want to see that commie Corbyn wearing a white poppy : )
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Why is that Injera? Politicians have been laying wreaths since 1922 but that doesn't politicise the poppy.
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Agreed aka. But the media and politicians never seem to question the madness of so many needless conflicts. No concern for losses inflicted on often defenceless people.
Not all of our fallen were doing so to protect us. That's your red herring right there. Soldiers since time began are ordered to kill and be killed. Don't think, just go forward and pay the price. Nothing changes ![]() |
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Aka will like this. Did everyone see the SNP Westminster leader at the poppy ceremony last year, looking like he'd staggered there straight from an all night wedding function?
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ian+Blackford+Royal+Family+Lay+Wreaths+Cenotaph+jghHg2cLfqrl.jpg |
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That’s all we ever do hear in the British media
Britain has never been involved in any war that couldn’t be justified in at least some measure |
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Not all of our fallen were doing so to protect us.
Soldiers have no say on the right or wrong of any war. The Red Poppy recognises the loss of life and, as I keep saying, is in no way trying to justify war in any circumstance. |
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What you have to understand is that Britain was until fairly recently the greatest empire ever seen
That meant we were responsible for maintaining peace And we are gradually trying to divest ourselves from that burden , even today That’s why we have been involved in wars that are not strictly to defend ourselves |
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apart from our womxn trying to rewrite or even eradicate history
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"Can I just confirm: buying a white poppy gives the exact same amount of money to the British Legion, but it has the added benefit of winding up a bunch of gammons? What's not to love?"
What a truly disgusting and shameful post the above is from porcupinepineapple. I wonder if he'll have the decency to apologise? |
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That’s why we have been involved in wars that are not strictly to defend ourselves
Nothing to do with oil or sucking the American President's c ock then? How the Greatest Empire has fallen! ![]() ![]() |
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say no more
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Fcek me if I agree with akabula on something!
I think they also sold poppies to help those who had been injured during the war. If anyone has not been I would highly recommend attending the Memorial / Armistice Day Parade in Whitehall. It is very moving and humbling. |
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I wonder if Corby will turn up in his donkey jacket this year on Remembrance Sunday, in the true Labour tradition.
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........... A tradition that started with Michael Foot , if I remember correctly
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A flowered shirt and shirts is more likely if I know Corbyn.
Although it's getting a bit cold for that so I expect it'll be the donkey jacket and jeans. Oh, and a woolly hat. |
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casemoney [i]25 Oct 18 09:46
I have never seen anyone wearing One , PEACE apparently ,do people wearing these think Red Poppy wearers don't want Peace ?? Even a mention on the BEEB of Purple Poppies ,the Mind Boggles . [/i] What's wrong with purple poppies ? These commemorate the animals that were lost on WW1 battlefields - the horses and dogs.. |
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Torq - why is it shameful?
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https://www.britisharmyregimentalpin-badge.com
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https://www.poppyshop.org.uk
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Not only shameful Porky but a lie as well.
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. In the spring of 1915, shortly after losing a friend in Ypres, a Canadian doctor, Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae was inspired by the sight of poppies growing in battle-scarred fields to write a now famous poem called 'In Flanders Fields'. After the First World War, the poppy was adopted as a symbol of Remembrance. During the First World War (1914–1918) much of the fighting took place in Western Europe. Previously beautiful countryside was blasted, bombed and fought over, again and again. The landscape swiftly turned to fields of mud: bleak and barren scenes where little or nothing could grow. Bright red Flanders poppies (Papaver rhoeas) however, were delicate but resilient flowers and grew in their thousands, flourishing even in the middle of chaos and destruction. In early May 1915, shortly after losing a friend in Ypres, a Canadian doctor, Lt Col John McCrae was inspired by the sight of poppies to write a now famous poem called 'In Flanders Fields'. McCrae’s poem inspired an American academic, Moina Michael, to make and sell red silk poppies which were brought to England by a French woman, Anna Guérin. The (Royal) British Legion, formed in 1921, ordered 9 million of these poppies and sold them on 11 November that year. The poppies sold out almost immediately and that first ever 'Poppy Appeal' raised over £106,000; a considerable amount of money at the time. This was used to help WW1 veterans with employment and housing. |
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Thats why poppies should be red, and it does not glorify war, but simply to rember the milions of lives lost through war.
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