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donny osmond
When: 23 Oct 18 22:55
chris eubank jr, must be fairly middle class with all cash his dad earned...?

sonny bill williams didnt need to take up boxing with money he earned from
rugby, but maybe the fighting spirit existed before the cash rolled in?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 23 Oct 18 23:05
Boxing is probably the most brutal sport there is, the objective is to beat up your opponent
who will attempt to do the seem to us.

Children with some athletic ability(not all men have this..including meBlush) will almost always chose another sport if they can.


Very good point. Middle Class people generally just don't go into boxing. Just like working class people generally don't go into tennis.

You can't necessarily make something about class when it's more about opportunity (or lack of).

People with disadvantaged backgrounds will always have more to prove, yes.

But the determination to succeed is much more complex. It comes from within, and transposes classes. Admittedly, anyone that has it way too easy is at an obvious disadvantage.

I got to top 40 in my sport but it probably wans't in me ultimately.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 23 Oct 18 23:11
Just to clarify, the discipline wasn't in me when I discovered other things at the vital age. And discipline, dedication and determination is everything when you have talent. Again, that transcends classes. We're all built the same.
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scandanavian_haven
When: 23 Oct 18 23:13
donny, Chris Eubank Jr is crap, with all due respect, looks great on highlight and training reels he puts out, but in reality more style over substance, lost to the two only half decent boxers he's fought, lives in his own world and without a doubt is the most delusional boxer you'll ever come across.

doantwin2easy, determination does come from within, but it's easier to be determined when everything is laid on a plate for you, it's easier to have vision. Much harder when you're working class and many more barriers/hurdles ahead of you.

Boxers have my admiration, to literally fight you way to the top from nothing commands maximum respect. Even some boxers who apper to be bellends like Fury, it's a hard man's hard man, like most true Gypsies, they'll fight anyone gloves or not.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 23 Oct 18 23:22
Scandanavian, I would probably say I had a middle class upbringing.no one really laid anything on a plate for me but my folks did take me around the country to tournaments, and buy me the equipment I needed etc to be fair.

I ran till it hurt and then ran some more. There were working class kids I used to train with that didnt have the heart to raise a step.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Oct 18 23:30
hes not top drawer, but hes "decent"  to me, and i cant think of a better one at moment.

maybe he would have been better if he had had to scrap like his dad?

maybe too,  hes just in family job, like some other sons and daughters of boxers, so
not a good example anyway..but perhaps they offer best chance of a rich kid becoming
a decent boxer anyway.
By:
Crisp77
When: 24 Oct 18 07:49
Fight Promoters love to push the boxers who don't read their contract and bring loads of fans to support them with ticket sales.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 24 Oct 18 12:43
I also object to the word crap being used to describe Eubanks jnr

Christopher Livingstone Eubank (born 18 September 1989) is a British professional boxer. He held the IBO super-middleweight title from 2017 to 2018, and previously the WBA interim and British middleweight titles between 2015 and 2016. In February 2018, Eubank was ranked as the world's best active super-middleweight by BoxRec,[1] third by the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board,[2] and fourth by The Ring magazine.[3] He is the son of former two-weight world boxing champion Chris Eubank.
Professional record summary
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29 fights
27 wins
2 losses
By knockout
21
0
By decision
6
2 losses


Perhaps not quite up to his fathers record, but he has given it all. I like his uppercut.
His eye was damaged early in the fight against George Groves(who is pretty good himself) and it did effect him.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Oct 18 12:51
Eubank has proved he does not have enough power to be world class given his fighting style in the Spike O'Sullivan fight he hit him everything and had very little effect,definitely wouldn't call him obviously very dedicated and you need self belief to be able to fight anybody.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Oct 18 13:33
IBO title is practically worthless and he beat a conveyor belt of boxers who most would describe as average hand picked opponents, lost to the only two decent fighters he fought, George Groves beat him with one arm.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 24 Oct 18 17:44
oh well...that is me shot down, no wonder I don't win anything on boxingSad
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