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By:
cardenden
When: 24 Oct 18 13:06
the guy was within his rights  womans daughter called him a c,,;,, i blame them all anyway  , who would travel with ryian air,,
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Oct 18 13:13
very poor behavior by the man if that account is accurate crystalhunt

It could be I’m not saying it isn’t but does it ring true ?
It doesn’t seem to be the whole story why would he have acted in that way it just seems strange
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Oct 18 13:16
I really can’t see anyone acting in the manner that that account describes
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Oct 18 13:19
I suppose anythings possible nowadays
By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Oct 18 13:29
Poor behaviour but a National news story?????   People really need to get a grip.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Oct 18 13:31
So the bloke wasn't at fault originally isn't that just the way.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 24 Oct 18 16:07
DenzilPenberthy    24 Oct 18 13:31 
So the bloke wasn't at fault originally isn't that just the way.


SadSad
By:
Reynard
When: 24 Oct 18 18:11
Why has this received a similar level of media coverage as the story about a man being chopped up on the orders of a sovereign state ?
Nothing seems proportionate where media coverage is concerned .
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Oct 18 18:14
Has anyone found out what status his love life with Seann Walsh is, just to make this even more important?
By:
crystalhunt
When: 24 Oct 18 18:38
Reynard    24 Oct 18 18:11 
Why has this received a similar level of media coverage as the story about a man being chopped up on the orders of a sovereign state ?
Nothing seems proportionate where media coverage is concerned.

It hasn't !
By:
ufcdan
When: 24 Oct 18 20:09
Was he a Chelsea fan coming home from his holidays ExcitedLaugh
By:
irishone
When: 25 Oct 18 06:40
I think we need to establish who is the victim here

1. The passenger squeezed into a window seat seeing his emergency exit blocked or his way to the toilet\exit blocked by a physically challenged individual travelling on ryanair !
2. The passenger physically challenged given an aisle seat with another able bodied passenger squeezed inside of her also with a ryanair ticket
3. The other passengers who were delayed and had to listen on their ryanair bookings
4. The ryanair staff poorly trained under stress to get in and out of airports.


Or michael oleary ? ...all publicity is good though ennit ?
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By:
irishone
When: 25 Oct 18 06:47
You get on a bus disabled people get more room
You get on a plane and they dont
If there is an emergency people will panic
They will clamber over anyone in their way
To get out
So for me ryanair have H&S problem
....and this incident is down to them
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Oct 18 10:44
The bottom line is that we use budget airlines because they're cheap.
If they have to cater for the disabled and obese, then they'll become more expensive.
Or the disabled will have to pay more for special services.
Which is the way I'd go.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 25 Oct 18 11:51
Why has this received a similar level of media coverage as the story about a man being chopped up on the orders of a sovereign state ?
Nothing seems proportionate where media coverage is concerned .


The length of this thread tells you why it has received a lot of coverage.  It's a hot topic that divides a lot of opinions (in regards how big an issue it is, not whether it's very unpleasant).  It also serves as a warning to be on your guard.  You can use the words ugly, fat, skinny, short, bald, thick, and endless swear words with impunity, but add the words black, gay or female and you could be labelled the devil incarnate by the media.

Personally if someone called me a horrible white man I wouldn't be offended.  But if someone called me an ugly, lazy, tight-fisted bastard I would be offended.  If someone called me an ugly, white, lazy, tight-fisted bastard I would be offended too, but I wouldn't be any more offended with the addition of the word white.

I realise that black and gay has been used as a derogatory term, whereas white hasn't, due to history, religion and being in the minority, so it's not the same.  But as I see things we are far more accepting of race and sexual orienation than we were 30 years ago, and so we should be approaching the time where being called black or gay should not cause offence in the same way as being called white is. 

Racism and homophobia amongst Muslims is still mainstream though.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 25 Oct 18 12:21
Someone shouldv'e grabbed the fat bastrd and given him a slap,no one did anything unbelievBLE..Shocked
By:
Facts
When: 25 Oct 18 12:31
For those who haven't seen the full video. Watch it.
Also the comments, where it explains what was going on and why.
The guy was utterly offensive . Disgusting  and unacceptable behaviour.  This was a prime example of hate crime.
His racial verbal  abuse ( plus his threats of physical assault), was enough for him to have been thrown off the plane.
Other airlines have done exactly this for less.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 25 Oct 18 12:32
I can remember my mum saying to me the slogan "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"  I think she saw it as her way of instilling mental fortitude.  I remember it because I thought it was bollox.
By:
Reynard
When: 25 Oct 18 12:38
Never , ever look back at anything your mother said and consider it to be b0ll0x . Mothers talk more sense than anybody that ever walked the earth .
It should be noted that Merkel and May do not fit into the aforementioned category .................... they DO talk b0ll0x !
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 25 Oct 18 12:46
Another one of hers was "the pen is mightier than the sword".  You had to laugh at the contradiction between the two slogans even though you can see the thinking behind them
By:
Dotchinite
When: 25 Oct 18 13:26
Clydebank has it spot on. A poor choice of words you use now can land you into serious trouble.

Whats bizarre is that lots of actual crimes now arent even investigated probably as there isnt time to do so as Police are wasting their time on things like this.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Oct 18 14:23
Someone shouldv'e grabbed the fat bastrd and given him a slap,no one did anything unbelievBLE

It's noticeable that certain posters appear to put verbal abuse as at least equal to physical violence.
If not why suggest it?

So why not simply give the person shouting the abuse a good bollocking if that is the case?

Call him some names back as a punishment if name calling is so injurious or damaging.

Doesn't it say in the Bible an eye for an eye?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Oct 18 14:27
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. No more no less.

You are sentenced to be sat down in a room and called nasty names for a set period of time by articulate verbal abusers.

Doesn't that put the gravity of the ''crime'' in complete perspective?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 25 Oct 18 14:32
But as I see things we are far more accepting of race and sexual orienation than we were 30 years ago, and so we should be approaching the time where being called black or gay should not cause offence in the same way as being called white is. 



absolute rubbish, one of the most ridiculous nonsensical posts I've read
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 14:40
It might not be a question of being more or less tolerant , that might be a meaningless word anyway . Maybe they are more wary , that’s because of experience who could blame them ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 14:44
There is simply no point in throwing people together , and indeed without their consent ,
and then insisting they will have to like it and be ‘tolerant’
The sheer gaul if it .
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Oct 18 14:58
Agree with lfc, some people have got chips on their shoulders and they go out of their way to exploit the law which is weighted in their favour.
Because of this they're always looking for trouble.
The law should be neutral when dealing with people, or risk creating even deeper divisions than are already present.
By:
jamesdean
When: 25 Oct 18 15:28
The old thug never had a chip on his shoulder imo, he was just a racist.
By:
posy
When: 25 Oct 18 15:31
So his name is David Mesher and he lives in sheltered accommodation in Birmingham;Just hope he gets prosecuted for despicable behaviour.Have to say i'm not entirely clear what is meant by 'sheltered accommodation'
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 15:32
oh shut up
By:
Dotchinite
When: 25 Oct 18 15:41
Surely nobody in their right mind would want this old guy prosecuted.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 25 Oct 18 16:07
Seems I've got an easily offended one dimensional troll on my case
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 25 Oct 18 16:21
er no, you're basically giving license to people to be racist using the flimsiest  of justifications I've ever heard, no black person would ever read that nonsense and think yes, he has a rather good point there doesn't he, let white folk call us black this and that because it's  2018 and we're used to it, have a day off
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 16:36
The same rights, privileges and protections should apply to all citizens irrespective of colour
I think that’s what Clydebank means
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 16:37
It’s a good point , maybe too subtle for scandi
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 25 Oct 18 16:42
speaking of real trolls, here lfcLaugh

Being called black followed by insults or white followed by insults is unacceptable full stop, he justifies it by saying he wouldn't be offended being called a horrible white man, well he can speak for himself, most people would be offended being insulted whilst using their skin colour in the process whatever their skin colour.

Typical knuckle dragging nonsense to come out with, you don't insult someone mentioning their skin colour, unless you were badly brought up.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 25 Oct 18 16:45
Sent me of to a foreign land ,to go and kill the yellow man.???
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 25 Oct 18 16:45
but apparently that makes me 1 dimensional, because I wont conform to the normalisation of casual racism which he's trying to promote, dear me this forum at times Crazy
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 25 Oct 18 16:46
I didn't say 2018, I said approaching the time.  That could be 2050.  In an ideal world where people are regarded as equal and have confidence in their own being calling someone a white **** should have the same impact as calling someone a black ****.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Oct 18 16:50
Everyone in Britain today is equal under the law , and should behave in that way
Today ..not in 10 or 20 years time
But today
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