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name one
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yes some young people have done some good things, i have proof
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I’m sure they have , but are they intelligent
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dunno, maybe
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Will take a look tomorrow , nite nite
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but they care, about stuff, maybe
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You never answered my question northanlite.
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tbh i had forgotten what we were arguing about. the only thing i could be sure of is that you will never answer a direct question and always turn it into
a question that you will then demand an answer to. the question rarely has a definitive answer |
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i cannot believe how often i fall for that guys nonsense. he is good at it
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I keep referring to this but the student crying vid that has been on here on numerous occasions sums them up for me.
"I can't believe we're turning our backs on the world" she sobbed. Jeez. Unbelievable comment as was her crying. |
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Out the poker so off to bed. goodnight.
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mad mad moon has made my point but I'll continue the theme if I may:
Youngsters say it's their future. So I presume they mean jobs, housing and general quality of life. They support Remain and freedom of movement without limits. Being in the EU (and thus unlimited migration) creates an oversupply of labour. Thus lower wages and conditions. It leads to greater demand for housing which leads to higher rents. It increases the burden on school and hospital places. Thus poorer education and health. To compensate, higher taxation would result, leading to reduced disposable income. And they want to Remain??? With slightly reduced immigration since the vote, we're seeing vast numbers of job vacancies in the NHS and hotel and catering to name just 2 sectors. That's good news but reported negatively! Kids have great opportunities now and those opportunities will improve further still when we leave. |
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Amazed Brexiteers have never campaign to end commonwealth immigration.
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Hopefully that’s next , that’s been another disaster
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freedom of movement is ending of course not immigration , unfortunately it will be an almighty battle to get the idiots in power to stop that
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maybe we could hold a referendum on immigration ?
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All based on the barmy idea that certain generations having fixed ideas, and that you know what future generations will want.
In 1975 the UK voted to stay in the EEC, as it was then, no one with more enthusiasm than young voters. Those young voters are precisely the same old people whose deaths 've kidz of today are counting on to remove Brexit's mandate. They changed their minds, not to be difficult, but because they had seen how the EU worked, and the direction it is going. They decided it was not right for them, their children and their grandchildren, indeed for Britain as a whole. They do have a stake in the future, the young people they care about. Just maybe, people who have lived through the whole history of our membership and remember the time before it, are better placed to know what's best than those with almost no experience? No one is trying to "no platform" the under 25's, but I do sometimes wonder if those young people who delay participating in the political process are not the wise ones, who are waiting till they know a bit more about the world. Their argument is also based on the assumption that today's 8 year olds will agree with them in a decades time. Maybe they might - or nmaybe hey might find an attachment to this institution horribly old fashioned and stuffy, and wonder how we could have been so blind to the opportunities Brexit gives us. Perhaps, perhaps not, but let's leave that decision for the future. |
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good post , and the longer we remain the more difficult it will be for British people to leave as we import more and more remainers to vote against leaving
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And pretty soon it will be they who are making the decisions , not you and not your children
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Where does this argument end?
Are we to have a GE every year in case the new batch of 18-year-olds object to the choice made when they were 17? Or shall we do as the DVLA did and make it every six months? The most important point about the whole Brexit debate is the one made by Hanx above, and by myself on several occasions on these boards. The people who made the original mistake to join the EU were the people whose votes carried the day for Leave 40 years later, when they had had four decades to judge whether staying in the EU was in our best interests. |
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Age groups? Thats one way of looking at the vote, but far from the most useful.
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if we have a referendum on immigration what is the question? we are a mongrel race so embrace it
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That's a great post Hanx
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Snowflakes have a limited lifetime before they melt, fact
.And everyone knows water is smarter than snow. I'm mostly water and I'm far smarter than than snowman I had a drunken argument with 2 christmases ago. |
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than thaT.
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