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By:
Coachbuster
When: 24 Oct 18 00:11
he does look good for 65 though
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Oct 18 00:49
The vid posted yesterday @ 7:42 explains some of the science behind how cancer begins and what chemicals turn off the production,bought some nuts/seeds just adjusting some of the starch and ditching the sugar as nuts have been proven to increase mortality on several diets going to grind them up and put them in porridge.
Agree looks good for his age.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Oct 18 14:46
This is an interesting 5 minutes about cancer and protein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXPy1aHsP0
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Oct 18 15:09
Thanks,have come across quite a few interesting videos from that particular channel.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 24 Oct 18 18:23
Not enough money in curing diabetes, they also have to intimate a solution to cancer?

This is either fishing, or you could do with reorganising your belief systems.

Crippen, not just that you're wrong about nearly everything, but your susceptibility to any old plop that appears on the internet makes you impossible to reason with.
Denzil, seriously mate? you need to ease up on the apparent obsession on diet.

This stuff you keep posting and absorbing yourselves with is complete fraudulent nonsense and you're trying to promote it.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Oct 18 19:21
STUDYFORM,
Here's a bit of advice.

It's stood the test of time.

Keep taking the tablets.

Literally.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Oct 18 19:34
Tom Watson - one of STUDYFORM's heroes in the Labour party.

''Labour's Tom Watson 'reversed' type-2 diabetes through diet and exercise''

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45495384


Sorry Tom it can't be done, STUDYFORM says so.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Oct 18 20:07
Denzil, seriously mate? you need to ease up on the apparent obsession on diet.

Given the state of the health of most of the population someone of my age and past lifestyle would be silly not to take a strong interest in diet you might be better served by doing the same.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 26 Oct 18 18:59
Not only talking ballocks but "bumping the thread to the top" I believe was the accusation!

You have no idea - Your last post is baseless, written from the perspective of one who is a conspiracy moron, and having another pop at me, including loads of guff you have invented, not read or heard. Not a word of it is worthy of refute it's so preposterous.

How can you be so useless at so much???
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 26 Oct 18 19:20
Laugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Oct 18 19:30
You can always rely on STUDYFORM.

Wind him up and watch him go.
By:
bigmo
When: 30 Oct 18 13:46
Butter nonsense: the rise of the cholesterol deniers


A group of scientists has been challenging everything we know about cholesterol, saying we should eat fat and stop taking statins.

This is not just bad science – it will cost lives, say experts


.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/oct/30/butter-nonsense-the-rise-of-the-cholesterol-deniers


Link for anyone who may be interested.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 30 Oct 18 18:40
This is not just bad science – it will cost lives, say experts

Worse than that, it could cost the pharmaceuticals money if healthy people stop taking them.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 19:13
Thanks bigmo just highlights the amount of delibirate disinformation there is out there seems they're all at it in one way or another self interest playing with people's lives.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 19:14
*deliberate
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 19:20
Another interesting subject I've been researching the last week or so is Autophagy easy to incorporate into your lifestyle was going to put some info onto the fasting thread can't remember if it was touched on there or not.
The second video is interesting as it focuses heavily on longevity and living as healthy as possible for as long as possible which interests me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jNZleNH9w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1FCJS8DoM
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 01 Nov 18 12:14
Two interesting videos from Denzil.
It's amazing how much good you can do yourself health wise if you are prepared to break with the generally accepted Western way of eating three meals a day, while observing a balanced diet.

Consensus and misinformation are the enemies of scientific progress. And leads to the current situation in medicine where drug-pushing doctors cure little, and in many cases make matters worse.

This situation is unlikely to change, with doctors making very good livings from simply staying in line, and obeying their masters who policies are controlled by the food manufacturers and the pharmaceutical industry.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 Nov 18 12:07
By the way Denzil, I had the same reaction after trying green tea, took me ages to isolate it.

Something you'd never suspect you'd get a reaction to.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Nov 18 13:59

Nov 3, 2018 -- 12:07PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


By the way Denzil, I had the same reaction after trying green tea, took me ages to isolate it.Something you'd never suspect you'd get a reaction to.


I initally was having it first thing so tried it later in the day after some food and was still the same my brother on the other hand gets no reaction at all.
Tried a bit of fasting last week to induce autophagy and had plateaued on starch anytime alone so started at a 6 hour eating window and built up to a 4 hour window,same types of food just adding some greens,mushrooms,porridge with nuts and seeds and did 7 days and lost on average about 6lbs.
Currently have had 3 days more relaxed eating at about a 10 hour window eating til full and the weight loss has stayed with zero put back so presumably I've taken off actual fat and water and not sugar and water which is replaced constantly.
On the back of this will be including this method in future and sticking to about a 10 hour window the rest of the time.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 Nov 18 15:12
Heard in the supermarket this week - ''everybody becomes diabetic when they get older.''

People actually believe that.  Or it's in their genes as mentioned here.

So if your dad ate steak egg and chips three times a day and died of a heart attack, then you'll probably die of a heart attack despite what you eat.

Which is like saying, if your dad committed suicide then you're likely to kill yourself as well.
By:
G Hall
When: 07 Nov 18 10:34
Diagnosed with type 2 yesterday bit of a sickener,told it was hereditary,not really to do with my diet,back tomorrow for further tests, gonna read this thread now.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 12:42
Bad luck G Hall.

Cases of diagnosed Diabetes are increasing rapidly.
Here's an article from 2008 showing an increase of 90% for America in ten years.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769839/

It's startling figures like these that made me gather as much information about the disease that I could, in order that I could make adjustments to my diet and avoid developing the killer myself.

S2 diabetes hereditary?  I don't think so.
By:
ufcdan
When: 07 Nov 18 13:28
Just been to my doctors for an hour talk on Diabetes. Looks like my feeble attempt to loose weight with Slimming World has probably done more harm than good Sad obviously I can't blame them entirely as I readily admit I eat a lot of sh1t, however I never knew a small jacket potato which I deemed to be fairly healthy on its own turns into 16 cubes of sugar Scared I had four the other night for dinner ! Slimming world will tell you they are a free food and you don't have to measure them Crazy
By:
G Hall
When: 07 Nov 18 14:04
That's what he told me Dr C I wouldn't have weight issues at all,just extremely thirsty and tired and blurry vision at times, wouldn't get as much sleep as I need though.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Nov 18 14:48

Nov 7, 2018 -- 1:28PM, ufcdan wrote:


Just been to my doctors for an hour talk on Diabetes. Looks like my feeble attempt to loose weight with Slimming World has probably done more harm than good  obviously I can't blame them entirely as I readily admit I eat a lot of sh1t, however I never knew a small jacket potato which I deemed to be fairly healthy on its own turns into 16 cubes of sugar  I had four the other night for dinner ! Slimming world will tell you they are a free food and you don't have to measure them


dan trust me mate what Dr C and I have put up on here is the way to go Slimming World type way is designed to have people going round in circles that is how they make their money with repeat subscriptions to an unsustainable way of life.

By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Nov 18 15:02
My sister in law just goes round the carousel yo yoing all year round despite going to her classes every week,all she's doing is dumping her water and sugar stores then filling them up again that's why there's big losses at the start for everyone.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 16:17
People really need to know about nutrition if they're serious about losing weight and staying slim once the weight is off.
Otherwise hey simply put it all back on again.

They need to know how the body deals with the three main parts of food, which are carbs, fat and protein.
This is also essential if they're diabetic and are going to try and reverse it.
By:
ufcdan
When: 07 Nov 18 16:59
dan trust me mate what Dr C and I have put up on here is the way to go Slimming World type way is designed to have people going round in circles that is how they make their money with repeat subscriptions to an unsustainable way of life.

Spot on Denzil
By:
crystalhunt
When: 07 Nov 18 17:33
S2 diabetes hereditary?  I don't think so.

My Mrs would beg to differ. She is the eldest of 6 siblings, all bar the youngest have type 2. Her mother had it and her mother's two sister also. Her maternal grandmother also had it. Needless to say the youngest sibling, aged 52, is awaiting his fate but trying to eat healthily.

The 3 female siblings are overweight but the 2 males are a normal weight.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Nov 18 17:36

Nov 7, 2018 -- 12:42PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Bad luck G Hall.Cases of diagnosed Diabetes are increasing rapidly.Here's an article from 2008 showing an increase of 90% for America in ten years.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769839/It's startling figures like these that made me gather as much information about the disease that I could, in order that I could make adjustments to my diet and avoid developing the killer myself.S2 diabetes hereditary?  I don't think so.


Crippen - you f*cking idiot.
It is a PROVEN fact, none of your stupid idiotic conspiracy BS you adhere to like the total prik you are, that Diabetes is VERY MUCH hereditary.

You are without question one of the thickest people I've ever had the displeasure of corresponding/dealing with.

By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Nov 18 17:37
See if you'll get this removed now.
It'd be no surprise.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 17:44
I won't complain about that STUDYFORM.

It's a good reminder to the forum of what a hysterical state you tend to get yourself in.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 17:45
Swearing and hurling insults during a serious discussion without any provocation speaks for itself.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Nov 18 17:53
I have tried the ridiculous, pointless method of discussing this subject, all over the first few days of this thread.
You are presenting unsubstantiated, potentially dangerous tripe, based on nothing more than a conspiracy about medicines.

You are quite wrong (as always) in loads of places.
Among the states I'm in is to be a diabetic, and trust me, you are no saviour of diabetics. There is always provocation where you're concerned simply because you don't know very much about anything.

You have no magic cure, and people with the condition don't need YOU telling them it's always avoidable.
It isn't.

Parading reams of quackery all over the forum just shows what a gullible fool you are. And insults people who know far more about diabetes than you do.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 17:56
If S2 diabetes is hereditary, why are the numbers of sufferers growing rapidly, and why are the ages of the sufferers also coming down?

If it were purely down to hereditary factors wouldn't the numbers remain constant?

Cases of type 2 diabetes among young people rise 41% in three years

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/18/cases-of-type-2-diabetes-among-young-people-rise-41-in-three-years
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Nov 18 17:58
Think some may underestimate the learned way of life that the automatically inherit which accounts for many cases imo.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Nov 18 17:59
*they
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Nov 18 17:59
I'm not arguing the point.
YOU ARE WRONG.
It's as simple as that.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Nov 18 18:00
I didn't say other people can't get it. What I said - CLEARLY
is that diabetes is hereditary and IT IS.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Nov 18 18:00
Again, STUDYFORMS post is full of unsubstantiated claims and his own opinions, which are clouded by his extremes of emotion.
There's nothing to be learned from his posts at all.

I'd dismiss everything he writes on that basis.
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