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24 Sep 18
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A fresh Brexit referendum should be only about a departure deal and should not include the option of staying in the EU, John McDonnell has indicated to the dismay of Labour members pushing for a people’s vote.
The shadow chancellor said he would back the idea of a new referendum if a general election did not happen. But he argued that while it was up to parliament to decide the question, he believed it should be just “a vote on the deal itself”. “If we are going to respect the last referendum, it will be about the deal, it will a negotiation on the deal,” McDonnell said. He added: “Parliament will determine the nature of the question that will be put, but the first stage of that is to see if we can get a deal that is acceptable and brings the country together again. And I’ve always thought we could.” Michael Chessum, one of the grassroots organisers who coordinated the push for a Brexit vote at conference, said it was “preposterous” that a future referendum would not include an option to remain. “The Brexit motion set you be debated by conference, which is backed and negotiated by the leadership, clearly keeps remain on the table. That was a key element of what was agreed in negotiating the motion,’ said Chessum, a Momentum member of the campaign group Another Europe is Possible. “This idea that any future referendum would not include a remain option is preposterous; if we’re committing to a public vote, it would be an insult to the public not to trust them with all options. All options are on the table and that includes staying in that EU.” The party’s conference in Liverpool is expected to pass a statement thrashed out by delegates late on Sunday that commits Labour to keeping the option of a second referendum on the table. |
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a finger of fudge to keep the wolves at bay.
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Len McCluskey saying Labour the best option for the country as they are as one on the EU.
FFS three prominent MPs in Corbyn, McDonnell and Nandy all gave conflicting opinions on the way to progress. Labour no different to the Tories. about time all MPs got behind the UK and worked positively for a solution. |
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or going around threatening people who they don't EXACTLY agree with
I could imagine what would happen if I went to conference like the older gentleman they hustled out in bliar's time this is no longer my Labour party I joined over 40 years ago the bullies have taken over mummy's men tum have it by the hairies |
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ch 231 live....great stuff !
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Ch 232....correction !
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difficult to believe you could find so many whingers in such a small space, to sum it up "Ive got a sob story give me more money" Now Angela Raynor on education, you couldn't make it up.
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Worth ten of you
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left school as a pregnant teenager with no qualifications, and could now be in charge of the countries education system, that as to be a joke.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_rrLxFm_Z4
Showed her lack of talent here. |
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If Labour get into power, the country will be skint (again) IN 2 YEARS.
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Emily on !
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most people at the bottom and now working up to the working poor,probably think the countrys bankrupt now there way their treated and couldn't be any worse off
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Rousing speech !
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I used to be a fervert supporter and activist. I still have my card (40 years now) but something seems to take the guts out of it.
I seem to have little affinity with this new lot. What is it about them. They feel false to me. Seem to be more interested in minority issues than supporting most working people. And I mean doctors, office workers and other salaried not just, say, manual. just saying still think nearly all are on an ego trip and in it for the career and expenses. Yet I am all in favour nationalisation of utilities etc. |
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Most people have good intentions....read less of the Daily mail.
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No they don't hope this helps.
wot's the daily mail got to do with it? Are they in the party as well as all these students and teachers from mummy's men tum?? |
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grow your hair,nice ear ring,over the shoulder bag,floral print dress or sarong and you,ll be fine,
don't let the wife see you borrowing her dress,  |
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The Leopard 25 Sep 18 15:27 Joined: 05 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 39,918 | Blogger: The Leopard's blog
Rousing speech ! ^ A very divisive speech supporting many time leftist killers that murdered tens thousands of Catholics (and others) in Spain in the late 1930s during the red terror. Communism and Fascism are 2 sides of the same coin. You cannot support one without supporting the other. They are both totalitarian and evil. |
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1st timer I would never wear a sarong or floral print - too mummy like
it's mini dresses and heels every time - steal the show!!! |
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I would NEVER wear my lady's dresses - she just hasn't got my style.
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Wiki :
The Spanish Civil War (Spanish: Guerra Civil Española),[nb 1] widely known in Spain simply as The Civil War (Spanish: La Guerra Civil) or The War (Spanish: La Guerra), took place from 1936 to 1939. The Republicans, who were loyal to the left-leaning and relatively urban Second Spanish Republic, in an alliance of convenience with the Anarchists and Communists, fought against the Nationalists, a Falangist, Carlist, Catholic, and largely aristocratic group led by General Francisco Franco. The war has often been portrayed as a struggle between democracy and fascism, particularly due to the political climate and timing surrounding it. In early 1939, the Nationalists achieved victory, and ruled over all of Spain until Franco's death in November 1975. |
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The best thing about the Spanish Civil War is that it gave us the term Fifth Columnist, which we now need more than ever.
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if they are fifth aren't they way behind the winner??
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wiki:
The Red Terror in Spain (Spanish: Terror Rojo)[3] is the name given by some historians to various acts of violence committed from 1936 until the end of the Spanish Civil War "by sections of nearly all the leftist groups".[4][5] News of the rightist military coup in 1936 unleashed a social revolutionary response, and no republican region escaped revolutionary and anticlerical violence, but it was minimal in the Basque Country.[6] The violence consisted of the killing of tens of thousands of people (including 6,832[7] members of the Catholic clergy, the vast majority in the summer of 1936 in the wake of the military coup) as well as attacks on landowners, industrialists, and politicians as well as the desecration and burning of monasteries and churches.[7] A process of political polarisation had characterised the Spanish Second Republic, and party divisions became increasingly embittered and questions of religious identity came to assume a major political significance. Electorally, the Church had identified itself with the right, which had set itself against social reform.[8] The failed pronunciamiento of 1936 set loose a violent onslaught on those that revolutionaries in the Republican zone identified as enemies; "where the rebellion failed, for several months afterwards merely to be identified as a priest, a religious or simply a militant Christian or member of some apostolic or pious organization, was enough for a person to be executed without trial". |
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Ahh it must be months since the last Chit Chat "Spanish civil war" argument where the hard left apologists potray Franco as a fascist (highly debatable) as bad as hitler, and ignore the attrocities of the Communist and socialist extremists (not debatable) on the hard left, supported by the USSR to further the spread of that disease, and try to portray it as a simple fight of good vs evil.
Where's Comrade Ale Eyas, he's normally straight in on these with stupid and ignorant commie loving comments? |
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conference with arguments from the hijab wearers about hijab wearers not allowed to speak and palestinian flags aloft
this is what it is all about and now dear dianne on the rostrum |
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with just a hint of cleavage
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she is defending me and my lot LGBTQ ticked all the boxes - well done dianne
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Google Corbyns anti Europe statements, there's about ten of them on record. Just goes to show he's just another lying politican who'll say anything to get elected. And then there's Diane going to limit the time the Old Bill can bug someone's calls, organised crime, terrorists etc must be pooping themselves if she becomes Home Secretary
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Imagine her anywhere near power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK_pi5Si-sU |
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she is the classic do as i say not what i do person also looks like she is not doing much to reverse her type 2 diabetes
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remind me about franco and his rise to power
wasnt he the one that overthrew a government elected by the people, and used military force to do so? wasnt he claiming to want to restore a monarchy, and then installed himself ? didnt this war that he started to overturn the will of the people kill 500,000 people wasnt he armed by hitler and mussolini ? |
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Spare a thought for the 100+ security & cleaning staff working at labours conference all on zero hour contracts.havnt heard corbyn,McDonnell ,Abbott or mcluskey mention that outrageous hypocrisy yet.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45648081/labour-mp-laura-smith-calls-for-general-strike
A fantastic Advert for the Party |
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WHOS idea was the darts style style chanting ffs. !!
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... calling for a general strike from her cosy office in leafy Nantwich.
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donny osmond 26 Sep 18 09:42 Joined: 02 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 78,600 | Blogger: donny osmond's blog
remind me about franco and his rise to power wasnt he the one that overthrew a government elected by the people, and used military force to do so? wasnt he claiming to want to restore a monarchy, and then installed himself ? didnt this war that he started to overturn the will of the people kill 500,000 people wasnt he armed by hitler and mussolini ? ^ Absolutely. Evil communists against evil fascists. The white terror by Franco killed more people but largely started after the civil war. The leftists that Emily Thornberry praised many times in here speech yesterday slaughtered 50,000 in a few months. Thousands who were Catholic priests. The point is neither side should be praised. It would be like praising fighters who signed up for Isis against the evil Syrian regime today. |
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Corbyn Speech coming up !
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