Labour Conference - bbc2

Unfunded huge spending commitments, who'd have thought it, Labour spending other people's money.

InsiderTrader they haven't, just the lefties like Labour/BBC hate the Hungarian leader so they don't feel the need to have facts or back things up slinging insults about. People who are e.g. against mass immigration don't get fair trials, they are obviously nazis.

Jeremy is telling others not to be nasty when he should look at his own party

Hungary being under the otterman empire for so long probably did not help

The pro mass immigration left wing hungarian exile Soros is constantly interfering in Hungarian politics so their politicans put up posters against him. The posters said nothng about jews or his religion, but HE said they were anti jewish. That is all the BBC etc need as evidence, so they are "officially" in their eyes "anti semitic". It's ridiculous but that's the way the left and the BBC/C4 etc operate.

Lol 'climate change' now.

a lot of performing seals in the auditorium this afternoon

Far from being anti-Semitic, Orban has acted as a friend to Israel and been lauded as such by Benny Netanyahu.

400,000 new unionised climate change jobs.

this is not a speech its a fairy story

what sort of posters do they use against soros?

Having a go at Trump now.

This is not a conference it's more of a cult

Donny can you comment on the actions of someone who was born a Jew (now an atheist) without being anti-Semitic?

Has he said anything about the private sector yet?

All this talk of involvement in overseas politics but not a single word on brexit

he is going to stop every war UTOPIA in the world under Corbyn

jumped the gun BARROWBOY

Hi Nellie all he’s talking about is what the govt are doing wrong,not what he’d do about it.

Lefties trying to say a reasonable or justified stance on them is "racist" etc is just the norm now.
Portray yourself as a victim and the other person a "nazi".

“You have stood up for Israel time and time again in international forums,” Netanyahu said Thursday. “It is deeply appreciated, and it is important.”

A general election when they vote down the deal...

But what is their Brexit plan we would be voting for at that election?

The unfortunate thing about Corbyn saying he'll somehow come up with huge amounts of spending is stupid people (his supporters) will believe it, and if the media pick at it he'll say it's rubbish, (as he waits and plans to control what the media says).

Look at last election, they had an unfunded misleaidng promise on student tuition fees, then after the election admitted it was bollokz and would cost an absolute fortune.

THIS IS LAUGHABLE oh jeremy corbyn

"Blessed are the Cheesmakers, and all proletariat makers of dairy produce".

All froth no substance I’m afraid,& the idiots are lapping it up.

Bringing this company together? This idiot and the left wing extremist scumbags who support him are makign this country feel even more divided than ever. I'll never respect anyone who supports this communist P.O.S.

^ Right wingers afraid....very afraid !

He was announcing what he would spend.

Not how he would get the economy working to create that money.

Brilliant speech by the PM elect. Promising policy snippets and plenty of tory bashing.

The 'PM elect' - you sir are a deluded fool.

Donny can you comment on the actions of someone who was born a Jew (now an atheist) without being anti-Semitic

yes

232 for singing Jerusalem !

Calais will be swarming with illegals trying to get here listening to Jeremy giving all the candy away for nothing

so getting back to these soros posters

what kind of posters did they produce?

Did he say where they money would come from? Taxing companies that will flee the country? Taxing "rich" people that will flee the country?

Was he an MP when the likes of the Stones and Beatles etc were living abroad so they didn't pay tax here and the word "Brain Drain" as the able people ran abroad was common parlance? Before Thatcher sorted it out?

Donny do you have a link to these anti-Semitic posters?

I have not seen them. Are they like the mural Corbyn supported on social media? Or worse?

There was nothing anti-Semitic about them at all - it is quite possible to resent Internationalists like Soros attempting to undermine one's democratic mandate without being anti-Semitic.

Orban's record of support for Israel, and his oustpoken denunciation of Jobbik's anti-Semitism within Hungary, renders your implication scurrilous and - at a more basic level - simply untrue.

there are still loads of folk that live away from uk to avoid tax

even jagger is complaining brexit will make the uk a tax haven

cant really make these things up...

orban seems happy to support benjamin netanyahu, but doesnt
seem to have solved his anti semitism issues that have long been
claimed against him.

google the posters

Here is the poster here. Picture of his face and says ~ "Don't let Soros have the last laugh":
https://i.redditmedia.com/MNLJCpBVjncmMWKA728_KARC0RUQuJ_lbE7AWN7Xu-U.jpg?s=1c586cf72df212d6365f87f156945bac
The small text above says ~ "99% of Hungarians are against illegal immigration"

(you can verify that's what it says in 100 places).

What is anti semtic about it?

I always THOUGHT Corbyn was a scruffy little treasonous traitor with no idea about how to pick a winner in a one horse race. Now I KNOW it!

So Orban is anti-Semitic, tell me, has he been to any Deir Yassin Remembered events? Has he been paid to appear regularly on PressTV? Does he lay wreaths at memorials for terrorists?

I have tried to find them Donny.

All I see is the face of someone that has financed the opening of the borders of the Europe and chaos.

What has his religion of birth got to do with the posters?

try harder

but we know you dont want to find, so you wont...

Hungary in December abstained when the UN General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to reject the US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

It also joined the Czech Republic and Romania in blocking an EU statement criticizing Washington’s decision to move its Israel embassy to Jerusalem.

Donny they do not exist as far as I can see.

Find one and link it if they exist.

So you cannot find one.

So why lie about it?

companies fleeing the country like google,facebook,starbucks etc sending us 2 and a tanner by carrier pigeon from Dublin,

the rich leaving the country unlike barlow,lineker, and co getting their tax bills down to 3%. ,

companies and joe punter playing by the rules on the highstreet getting raped by big business and the filthy rich on a daily buisness

Here's a fact from WW2. When the German soldiers no longer had the stomach to shoot the Jews as they stood at the pits into which their bodies will fall, they didn't have to ask twice for volunteers from their Eastern European allies, particularly the Latvians & Ukrainians. Just saying.

When corbyn realises how much his child care policy will cost he ll call it an aspiration not a promise like he did with the tuition fees.

Still waiting for donny to provide a link to Orban's anti-semitic posters......

He cannot find one because they do not exist.

He just heard some leftists scream that Orban was anti-Semitic and patroted it without evidence.

He has been totally and utterly shown up.

(Unless of course he finds a poster and posts the link to backup his fiction).

HEARD a presenter on sky last night obviously in London saying it wasn't unusually for people to pay 1500-2000 grand a month on childcare,should be inquiry into why childcare costs so much and if any industry needs nationalised this is ripe, if the government cant set up childcare for less than a 100 quid a week,something wrong somewhere

google is your friend...

posters , and plenty other stuff

still

if you want to look other way , carry on

Israel does some terrible things. But many other countries do worse. The problem is, Israel gets singled out. Instead of asking what mother would deliberately put her child on the frontline where bullets are flying about as Gazan mothers do, they say-Oh those nasty Israelites shooting people who are trying to cross into their territory and who are firing rockets and trying to wipe them off the face of the earth. No point in debating-all positions on this forum and all others are firmly entrenched.

osmond on here again trying to kick up dust

an irrelevance

We on the left have a huge problem with capitalism - it provides the machinery and the jobs to make the cash which us socialists want to spend to make things fair.  Does that sound, crudely, right?

The problem is that if we interfere with it where will the cash come from to pay for everything? 

After all it is YOUR money the mandarins spend on behalf and/or with all governments.

Wonder how corbyn will explain away his 6 unobtainable tests should he ever be in a position to negotiate a brexit deal.

Did he say where they money would come from?


Not in the speech but presumably there would be an increase in Income Tax for higher earners and probably across the board and an increase in Corporation Tax.

Also, I think I heard someone today propose a tax on people with second homes.

JEZZA at the UN would pass the pipes of piece around and everything will be good in the world

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google is your friend...

posters , and plenty other stuff

still

if you want to look other way , carry on

^

Look the other way from what?

If you have evidence present it and stop making a complete fool of yourself.

Be fair if you want to make a complete tool of yourself Chit Chat is the place to do it.

ha ha, i t ,orban is on the defend at all costs list for you right wingers

despite everything,

still a simple google of him and his past, and the posters tells the truth

abuse may impress your gang but the gang reckon abuse
means you have lost the argument....

you decide

You cannot even post just one link as evidence.

With no evidence your argument has ZERO credibility.

google.com

cracking link, all you need to see.....

i await your full rebuttal of several million links....

Chit chat seems to unfortunately attract a disproportionate amount of gods "special people" like Donny doesn't it....

dont need to be special to use google

Luvvies ,Anarchists, Cronies ,Civ Libs,What a Fooking Mob

Imagine this Team Running the UK , What chance you Got

No doubt if they Don,t win the Next Election there will be A call for a Rerun

When these brain damaged leftist maniacs return us to the 70s, do we have to wear a parka and flairs when we shuffle along to the dole queue under power cut street light?

do we have to wear a parka and flairs when we shuffle along to the dole queue under power cut street light?




Load of b0ll0x JC we didn't wear that clobber to the job centre, most of us were in our work clothes nothing like a bit of scratching on and cash in hand..........happy days

Imagine if they Don't win the Next Election  Fookin Ell the Seething will Terminate Them

If corbyn got in I don't think I could handle 5 years of him destroying our economy and society followed by at least another 5 years to repair the damage. At LEAST.

I'd emigrate. The problem would then be: thieving sociliast scumbags try to stop us taking our savings and pension abroad.

McConnell has already talked about a exodus of money, run on the pound etc

Coming up for 60 if they get in I'll have good health care and someone to wipe my ar$e, only trouble is my kids and grandkids will be paying for it for years to come

Far Point Dan tbh  ,Maybe the Fookers will Drop the Pension age Down

You off then anxious

Anxious pops up to validate the "special person" theory...

Very witty dan , dont worry you will be raiding your piggy banks to run off with

If the Spivs win say bye bye to the NHS , decent care for the old and vunerable , more rip off utilties robbing the British People , morspending bilions more on weapons of mas destruction , sure it makes sense say the Spiv machine , all the sheep in this booth please

I was going to say anxious has been in therapy he managed a post without saying "spivs" but so quickly it comes crashing down.

Back to square 1. Must be so depressing for his carers!

anxious has a limited vocabulary JC, have some sympathy.

Its you that needs therapy JC , how is your obsession and paranoid fantasies about jon snow and  7 o clock channel news going ?

dont worry you will be raiding your piggy banks to run off with


It's not me raiding my piggy bank that worries me, it's Corbyn and his cronies. Said before and I'll say again Labour the politics of envy

Dan its a pity you cannot see admit the truth , your not a bad guy but you seem so blinkered and swallow the tory lie machine , its so sad your doing your family and country no good at all

Seriously anxious a lot of Labour's ideas sit well with me but and it's a big but how is it all going to be paid for ? A little bit extra tax of the wealthy ????? They have the ability and the where with all to fxxk off. However my main reason that I would not ever vote for Corbyn as long as I have a hole in my wotsit is I do not trust Corbyn as Prime Minister to defend this country. Would never push the button

so you will move to a country that has nukes ?

Dan if anybody pushes the button we will be toast , and think how many bilions this will cost , remember the new trident has 40 warheads on 4 subs , a total of 160 nuclear warheads, im sure you know that  1 warhead  is 8 times powerful as the 1 dropped on Hiroshama in WW2 , think about it my friend

I can move back to America donny if I chose too and yes anxious having served in the military I'm fully aware of the devastation that would come from a nuclear warhead. Hopefully they will never be used again, however if I and my family are to be blown to smithereens I'd like a family of the launching country to join me

Put it another way if I punched you or you punched me we'd probably punch each other back so therefore would probably think about it before taking that course of action. What I don't want is to facing Anthony Joshua with my hands tied behind my back..........hope this helps

So you keep on spending billions to avoid a rogue attack .the arms race who wins ?

Well we did in the early 90s hence the collapse of the Soviet Union

if we had won we wouldnt need em

you dont punch me i wont punch you

we may renew trident once more, but surely it will be the last time
we will need such a blunt threat.

you dont punch me i wont punch you




It goes against human hard wiring donny, there'll always be at least one sneaky fecker, it's how we evolved to where we are.

aye, it is, but we dont need nukes for the odd nutter

having the debate this time around has made lots more people think about
the cost of em, versus the need and benefit

the debate will move on and next time around we might come to a different decision

of course they might turn out to have been a great buy, and wont need to be replaced

It's the subs that are needless imo. Best to have a few tools for deterrent but park em on land, we'll be toast wherever they are if it ever kicked off.

Subs can hide so the enemy can't locate them until it's to late, land based missiles can be hit by a first strike

Once they launch the subs will be taken out