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By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Jul 18 01:01
didnt say it would

but with fixed term parliaments and divided parties its another outcome
that is possible
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jul 18 01:02
Hope to feck that wee Gove isn't in the running.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 01:03
I can't stand that two-faced, back-stabbing coont! AngryAngryAngry
By:
anxious
When: 09 Jul 18 01:05
Horrible creature gove like a snidey weasel Plain
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 01:06
Suella Braverman (sp?) GONE.
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Jul 18 01:06
gove will be new brexit secretary
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 01:07
Brexit Department more likely to be terminated, imo.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jul 18 01:07
Andrea Jenkyns MP‏Verified account @andreajenkyns · 21m21 minutes ago 
Come on we need a hat-trick! @BorisJohnson let's be having you!    Time for true #Brexiteers to make it happen.


From BJs twitter account. Laugh
By:
anxious
When: 09 Jul 18 01:08
Gove on telly creeping to Chairman May today Angry
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jul 18 01:10
Euro Guido‏ @EuroGuido · 6m6 minutes ago 
Probability of no deal has increased significantly tonight.



He retweeted that which kinda endorses the comment.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 01:11
I like her https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jul 18 01:13
BJ retweeted a few cruel pictures of May but, tellingly, a Jacob one with a union flag and a comment (not BJs) suggesting him as leader.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jul 18 01:20
Boris to give a statement tomorrow.
By:
anxious
When: 09 Jul 18 01:21
Havent  Labour said they wont support Chairman May new plan ?
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 01:28
I don't know, Anx.  Probably.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 09 Jul 18 01:30
Theresa May has been warned her Brexit deal faces rejection in Parliament after the Tories’ most influential backbench Eurosceptic said he would be joining Labour in voting against the “defeatist” proposal.

Writing in The Telegraph, Jacob Rees-Mogg says he will vote against Mrs May's "misfounded" Cabinet agreement and suggests other Conservative Eurosceptic MPs will do the same.

Mr Rees-Mogg, who leads of a 60-strong group of Tory Brexiteers, says that “if the proposals are as they currently appear I will vote against them and others may well do the same”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/07/08/theresa-may-warned-brexit-deal-faces-rejection-parliament-jacob/
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Jul 18 01:44
Theresa May's 'Heseltine' moment.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Jul 18 01:46
David Davis didn't fancy the long Chequers walk to the taxi rank.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Jul 18 03:02
brexit ends davis
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Jul 18 06:52
good riddance to bad rubbish - he was utterly useless at the job
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Jul 18 06:57
btw arlene and her bigots wouldn't allow a Catholic PM
By:
Stow_judge
When: 09 Jul 18 08:01
No change. Olly Robbins has been doing the job anyway.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 08:02

Jul 9, 2018 -- 6:52AM, dave1357 wrote:


good riddance to bad rubbish - he was utterly useless at the job


How?  He was severely held back in his job.

By:
dave1357
When: 09 Jul 18 08:11
severely held back by reality which he obv refused to accept
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 08:15
No.  He was severely reigned back by his boss.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 08:19
David Davis resignation letter:

Dear Prime Minister
As you know there have been a significant number of occasions in the last year or so on which I have disagreed with the Number 10 policy line, ranging from accepting the Commission’s sequencing of negotiations through to the language on Northern Ireland in the December Joint Report. At each stage I have accepted collective responsibility because it is part of my task to find workable compromises, and because I considered it was still possible to deliver on the mandate of the referendum, and on our manifesto commitment to leave the Customs Union and the Single Market.

I am afraid that I think the current trend of policy and tactics is making that look less and less likely. Whether it is the progressive dilution of what I thought was a firm Chequers agreement In February on right to diverge, or the unnecessary delays of the start of the White Paper, or the presentation of a backstop proposal that omitted the strict conditions that I requested and believed that we had agreed, the general direction of policy will leave us in at best a weak negotiating position, and possibly an inescapable one.

The Cabinet decision on Friday crystallised this problem. In my view the inevitable consequence of the proposed policies will be to make the supposed control by Parliament illusory rather than real. As I said at Cabinet, the “common rule book” policy hands control of large swathes of our economy to the EU and is certainly not returning control of our laws in any real sense.

I am also unpersuaded that our negotiating approach will not just lead to further demands for concessions.

Of course this is a complex area of judgement and it is possible that you are right and I am wrong. However, even in that event it seems to me that the national interest requires a Secretary of State in my Department that is an enthusiastic believer in your approach, and not merely a reluctant conscript. While I have been grateful to you for the opportunity to serve, it is with great regret that I tender my resignation from the Cabinet with immediate effect.

Yours ever
David Davis
By:
northanlite
When: 09 Jul 18 08:20
So who's next Liam Fox? he should find it a doddle seeing as he told everyone that a free trade deal with
the EU should be the “easiest in human history”
now you might get a chance to back that claim up Dr Fox
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 08:24
Theresa May's response

Dear David,
Thank you for your letter explaining your decision to resign as secretary of state for exiting the European Union.

I am sorry that you have chosen to leave the government when we have already made so much progress towards delivering a smooth and successful Brexit, and when we are only eight months from the date set in law when the United Kingdom will leave the European Union.

At Chequers on Friday, we as the cabinet agreed a comprehensive and detailed proposal which provides a precise, responsible and credible basis for progressing our negotiations towards a new relationship between the UK and the EU after we leave in March. We set out how we will deliver on the result of the referendum and the commitments we made in our manifesto for the 2017 general election:

Leaving the EU on 29 March 2019

Ending free movement and taking back control of our borders

No more sending vast sums of money each year to the EU

A new business-friendly customs model with freedom to strike new trade deals around the world

A UK-EU free trade area with a common rulebook for industrial goods and agricultural products which will be good for jobs

A commitment to maintain high standards on consumer and employment rights and the environment

A parliamentary lock on all new rules and regulations

Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy and the Common Fisheries Policy

Restoring the supremacy of British courts by ending the jurisdiction of the European Court of justice in the UK

No hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland, or between Northern Ireland and Great Britain

Continued close co-operation on security to keep our people safe

An independent foreign and defence policy, working closely with the EU and other allies.

This is consistent with the mandate of the referendum and with the commitments we laid out in our general election manifesto: leaving the single market and the customs union but seeking a deep and special partnership including a comprehensive free trade and customs agreement; ending the vast annual contributions to the EU; and pursuing fair, orderly negotiations, minimising disruption and giving as much certainty as possible so both sides benefit.

As we said in our manifesto, we believe it is necessary to agree the terms of our future partnership alongside our withdrawal, reaching agreement on both within the two years allowed by Article 50. I have always agreed with you that these two must go alongside one another, but if we are to get sufficient detail about our future partnership, we need to act now. We have made a significant move: it is for the EU now to respond in the same spirit.

I do not agree with your characterisation of the policy we agreed at Cabinet on Friday. Parliament will decide whether or not to back the deal the government negotiates, but that deal will undoubtedly mean the returning of powers from Brussels to the United Kingdom. The direct effect of EU law will end when we leave the EU. Where the UK chooses to apply a common rulebook, each rule will have to be agreed by Parliament. Choosing not to sign up to certain rules would lead to consequences for market access, security co-operation or the frictionless border, but that decision will rest with our sovereign Parliament, which will have a lock on whether to incorporate those rules into the UK legal order.

I am sorry that the government will not have the benefit of your continued expertise and counsel as we secure this deal and complete the process of leaving the EU, but I would like to thank you warmly for everything you have done over the past two years as Secretary of State to shape our departure from the EU, and the new role the UK will forge on the world stage as an independent, self-governing nation once again.

You returned to government after nineteen years to lead an entirely new department responsible for a vital, complex, and unprecedented task. You have helped to steer through Parliament some of the most important legislation for generations, including the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 and the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018, which received Royal Assent last week. These landmark Acts, and what they will do, stand as testament to your work and our commitment to honouring the result of the referendum.

Yours sincerely
Theresa May
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Jul 18 08:52

Jul 9, 2018 -- 8:15AM, trilby22 wrote:


No.

By:
dave1357
When: 09 Jul 18 08:55
trilby22 • July 9, 2018 8:15 AM BST
No.  He was severely reigned back by his boss.


If he was unhappy about being told what to do by the person running the show he should have resigned months ago instead of being obviously useless and souring the atmosphere in the negotiations.
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Jul 18 08:58
He was in a sh!t position and most likely (imo) tried his best.

Do we at least agree May should now go?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 09 Jul 18 08:59
EU diplomat on David Davis resignation: "The article 50 negotiation has so far taken up several hundreds of hours in negotiation. Of which minister Davis was here for 4 this year.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:06
Impossible job for anyone.  Akin to asking someone to lead a load of lemmings off a cliff
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:09
You need someone clueless like Corbyn or someone who doesn't give a **** like Boris
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:12
"This way chaps.  It will be brilliant I promise you.  Now Jump!"
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:21
If you go feet first you'll be blamed for not going head first and if you go head first you'll be blamed for not going feet first.  Either way you are hitting the rocks.  Best  to resign saying you don't agree with going feet first and when going feet first turns out going bad you can say I told you we should have gone head first.
By:
dustybin
When: 09 Jul 18 09:24
CLYDEBANK29 • July 9, 2018 9:06 AM BST
Impossible job for anyone.  Akin to asking someone to lead a load of lemmings off a cliff


Surely that was the referendum?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:28
You need someone clueless like Corbyn or someone who doesn't give a **** like Boris or someone like Farage who is both clueless and doesn't give a ****
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 Jul 18 09:29
The referendum created the impossible job.
By:
dustybin
When: 09 Jul 18 09:30
I never took an interest in the whole thing, the nation had voted in before I was born and the squabbling was always mostly tory since.
I was equally ambivalent come the vote seeing it nothing more than a blatant attempt to stop the party hemorrhaging....that backfired.
I didnt vote but couldnt see the benefit in all likelyhood of leaving a club who would by definition appose it.
Nevertheless I saw the referendum as little more than an opportunity to kick the PM for the most part, people who held no opinion but just wanted to do whatever he didnt.

I can see this hemorrhaging not being a tory issue but a national one.
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