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Correct, IT.
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Of course upbringing has an impact.
Do you shine the same lens on londoners, scousers, geordies, brummies etc as individual ethnic groups every time one of them does something bad? What about white people? Protestants? By age group? Men? Do you look into the culture and religion of every murder and rape committed and consider its impact? Or do you only reserve that for when a muslim does it. Rhetorical question. No need to answer. What do your studies say about upbringing and culture in Cambridgeshire around the time of the Soham murders? You mentioned FGM a while back and yet I don't think I've seen you criticise Judaism for circumcision ever. Why is that I wonder? Fact is you just hate islam and muslims, and will slavishly follow and support every little bit of propaganda that is fed to you that backs up that view. Much as a lot of people's opinion on Mr Lennon, it's this inability to be as critical to others, particularly those who look and sound like him, which completely invalidates your argument. I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty. But ultimately it would prove nothing except some people are evil and will look to justify their actions in some way. Also that some people will always try to twist things to suit a pre-conceived agenda. And I think most people would recognise it for what it is. Much as most people do with your man and his skinheaded, neck-tattooed munchkins. |
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I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty.
You can cherry-pick verses from the Bible, of course you can. But you would need to understand that whatever verses you quoted have long ago been disavowed by the worldwide Christian community, and that the more extreme exhortations are only considered relevant nowadays by a statistically irrelevant rump of that community. As stated above, that is simply not the case with Islam. In Islam, the hadiths are still considered - by all Muslims - to be the word of Allah, delivered through his prophet Muhammed. They are inviolable, unchangeable by human hand, and irrefutable - disavowal of the truths of the hadiths is apostasy, which I'm sure you are aware is punishable by death in Islamic jurisdiction. One does not need to scratch the surface of Islamic opinion to know that extreme views are not uncommon - and why should they be? In Britain for instance, the majority of the long-standing Islamic presence is from the Indian sub-continent, and only one or two generations removed from that area - it stands to reason that beliefs and cultures from that region would remain entrenched among its diaspora, particularly given the first generation's understandable reluctance to abandon its cultural traditions. It is this distinction your argument ignores - despite I suspect you being all too aware of its relevance. Of course individual priests and lay Christians commit crimes, even a simpleton knows that, but they are very rarely crimes for which they claim divine inspiration, and they are even more rarely crimes which involve the indiscriminate murder of large numbers of civilians. One does need to be careful tarring all Muslims as fanatics, of course they are not, but you should know that despite sharing a common enemy - in this case the Right Wing of European opinion - Islam is no friend of yours. You will pay the jizya, convert, or die, however many times you can prove you have argued its corner on internet forums. |
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Ok lets break this nonsense down:
Of course upbringing has an impact. Good. Finally we have agreement. Do you shine the same lens on londoners, scousers, geordies, brummies etc as individual ethnic groups every time one of them does something bad? What about white people? Protestants? By age group? Men? Do you look into the culture and religion of every murder and rape committed and consider its impact? Or do you only reserve that for when a muslim does it. If white scouser protestants made up a tiny percentage of the population and accounted, for example, 80% of car thefts in the country I think I think it would be worth examining if there is any link/reason. e.g. is there something happening in Liverpool that encourages this? Is there a skill handed down from father to son. Are there organised crime gangs in that community that do profit from it etc. Another example. If 50% of the England cricket team was born in Yorkshire it might be worth looking at if something in the schools, clubs, financing etc of schools in Yorkshire that makes people brought up there better at cricket. What do your studies say about upbringing and culture in Cambridgeshire around the time of the Soham murders? No. But if there were 100 times more child murders in the area than anywhere else I would want to see if it was truely random. E.g. is there a cult based there or something. You mentioned FGM a while back and yet I don't think I've seen you criticise Judaism for circumcision ever. Why is that I wonder? I have never critised male circumcision. A man can still have pleasure in sex after it although it is not something I would advise if there was no medical reason for it in the inidividual. Cutting the clitoris off massively reduces the ability of a woman to have any kind of orgasm from sexual activity. Fact is you just hate islam and muslims, and will slavishly follow and support every little bit of propaganda that is fed to you that backs up that view. Not correct in any manner shape or form. I dislike child rape, FGM, honor killings, bad treatment of women and killing of innocent people. Much as a lot of people's opinion on Mr Lennon, it's this inability to be as critical to others, particularly those who look and sound like him, which completely invalidates your argument. I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty. Again I have tried to present examples of activists that try to hammer home one point. e.g. Gina Martin on Upskirting. It does not mean these people do not care about anything else. It just means their prime objective is the area they are trying to encourage debate on. But ultimately it would prove nothing except some people are evil and will look to justify their actions in some way. Also that some people will always try to twist things to suit a pre-conceived agenda. And I think most people would recognise it for what it is. Much as most people do with your man and his skinheaded, neck-tattooed munchkins. His agenda from what I can tell was from his own experiences in Luton. You appear to be fitting in your own per-conceived agenda that everyone who listens to what he actually says is a skinhead with neck-tattoos. What do you have against all people with skinheads and neck-tattoos? |
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Pineapple seems to unable to grasp the fact that religions are not equal, they cannot be because of the way a certain religion creates a certain society
look around. |
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Update
Tommy Robinson, the founder of the English Defence League, is to remain in jail while judges consider his appeal against a 13-month prison sentence for contempt of court. Three judges in the court of appeal have reserved their decision after hearing evidence on Wednesday about his two convictions in Leeds and Canterbury for breaching reporting restrictions. The lord chief justice, Lord Burnett of Maldon, said he hoped the court would deliver judgment before the end of July. Lawyers for Robinson had urged the court to release him immediately, arguing that he had already served almost two months in prison and that the 13-month sentence was excessive and that the Leeds conviction was the result of a hearing conducted hastily. Advertisement Robinson, the founder of the far-right EDL, was sentenced for contempt after live-streaming a report of a trial in Leeds in May. The judge in that trial had ordered that media reports of the proceedings should be postponed until the end of all related cases. Robinson was arrested while broadcasting outside the courthouse, tried in a summary hearing, sentenced and sent to prison within the space of five hours. Charged under his real name, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, he appeared before the court of appeal by video link from prison. He occasionally put his head in his hands as he listened to the legal proceedings. Guardian Today: the headlines, the analysis, the debate - sent direct to you Read more Robinson had previously been given a suspended sentence for contempt of court after live-streaming at another case, in Canterbury last year. Robinson’s counsel, Jeremy Dein QC, said the sentence imposed on him in Leeds was “manifestly excessive”. He said Robinson was being kept in conditions of virtually solitary confinement at Onley prison. Consulting with his client had been difficult because it took so long for him to be brought out from his cell, Dein said. He called for the decision of the summary hearing to be quashed and for Robinson to be released on the grounds that he had already served almost two months in jail. Precisely which parts of the contempt laws Robinson had breached had not been made clear, Dein said. “The proceedings were unnecessarily and unjustifiably rushed. They were conducted in haste.” He said Robinson, when he was brought before the court, had offered to have the live stream deleted. “He did not act with impertinent defiance.” Dein said Robinson and others working for Rebel Media had undertaken training sessions in London on media law. |
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This video from sargon sums up the uk, about now.
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obl5gwkj4bA |
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"You're breaking Breach of the Peace."
FFS where do they get theses feckers from. That cop struggles to construct a sentence. |
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best defence is that sentence was excessive....
his past convictions will always count against him i thought he would be out by now |
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He's out now, celebratory meal at nandoes
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He's just planted his little flag.
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