PP - ok I'll bite.

People campaign on specific issues. Fry focussed on prisons. Saunders on palliative care, Wilberforce on slavery and animal rights.

Tommy on the threat of Islam. That's fair isn't it? Let's face it, life in Iran, Saudi or downtown Kuwait aren't great for gays, feminists, or infidels.

I guess you despise Carey for campigning (and stopping) brown skinned folk for the practice of Sutee !

As a liberal you should be extremely concerned at the rise of Islam. It will destroy liberals FIRST.
(See Iran...)

Lux  I am not sure where that comes from but Islam is not a race.  Hope this helps.

I find that hard to believe. Not saying it is wrong but one way to convert the masses is through religion. If you weren't on the Church register you could not transfer property. In this country there are generous advantages to being married for tax purposes and specifically Inheritance Tax.

I watched it on newsnight.
This is not the actual prog  but comes from ch4
I will continue to look for the actual prog
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-truth-about-muslim-marriage

PorcupineorPineapple
17 Jun 18 18:49
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IT - so is he an activist against rape, or just an activist against rape by a muslim.


Does a woman being raped by a non-muslim not matter so much to him?

^

Of course it matters. It is not just the thing he is campaigning about.

Lets try and make it really simple for you because you appear to have trouble with this.

If someone campaigns against gun crime in London does not mean they do not care about gun crime in Liverpool? Would you be angry that they are only talking about London. Or would you be happy they are highlighting the issue in London?

Another example Gina Martin campaigned against people taking 'upskirt' pictures. Does not mean she does not care about people taking 'down top' pictures of womens breasts? Of course not it is just her direct campaign is against upskirt pictures because that is the bad experience she had.

Surely you agree there is a problem with rape gangs in the UK and they are disproportionately done by a particular community. Tens of thousands of children are affected by this. Why does our society resist so much talking about it and just blame the messenger? Is it because people link pineapple just cannot face the facts of what is happening?

PP, so tens of thousands of British children raped by these gangs is something that should just be ignored?

moisok - you misunderstood my post, I was referring to those defending Islam conflating it with race and applying a different standard.

tommy expressed deep regret in court after being told of the possible consequences of his actions on the trial.

pp,

do you agree with sarah champion being fired from labour front bench for talking about this issue?

PP - If you're looking for someone campaigning abou this at home AND abroad, look no further than the wonderful Baroness Cox. This from wiki:

In 2003, she wrote The 'West', Islam and Islamism: Is ideological Islam compatible with liberal democracy? with John Marks,[12] published by Civitas, which argued "that Islamist terrorism was only part of a broader ideological challenge comparable to communist propaganda efforts during the Cold War".

CSI’s (Christian Solidarity Worldwide) involvement with Sudan began in 1992, when two of CSI’s leaders, Cox and Eibner, traveled to southern Sudan at the invitation of local churches to observe the effects of civil war on the Christian populations there.[65] CSI became especially involved in "redeeming" (buying and freeing) slaves in 1995

It is very interesting that people want to shoot the messenger on this subject.

Tens of thousands of girls having their lives ruined. 23,000 people on a terrorist watch list.

Yet all some people are worried about is the main person talking about these issues is TR.

They believe he is 'far right' (for no apparent reason apart from being told that by the main stream media).

They are angry he only talks about this issue but have no problem with other activists such as Gina Martin campaigning just talking about upskirting.

So the key test to the likes of Osmond, Pineapple and Northanlite is do they agree with Sarah Champion having to leave the Labour front bench for speaking out on the same issue?

She cannot be accused of being far right. So is it the subject you dont want mentioned or just you dont want TR mentioning it?

hes not a messenger, hes picked up on a known fact and uses it for his pre existing agenda

I seem to have delivered bad news for the apologists on here - particularly as it comes from their favourite biased propaganda voices on ch4 and the guardian  ho ho !!!  Wonder how they get out of that one.  80 PERCENT a figure to remember.  And the progressives say that our liberal values will filter down and change british muslims.  These figures about young women refute that straw they have tried to grab.

donny osmond
18 Jun 18 09:31
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hes not a messenger, hes picked up on a known fact and uses it for his pre existing agenda

^

This really does show the pure ignorance of the anti-TR brigade.

He was one of the first to expose what was going on because it was happening in his own town of Luton over a decade ago before all the big cases came out.

Paxman 2011 interview with TR before Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle, Rochdale, Oxford etc was exposed..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96elyZaxq8&t=345s

She stated in a piece published by the Sun :-

" Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls."

" There. I said it. Does that make me a racist? Or am I just prepared to call out this horrifying problem for what it is? "



' .....The Labour MP spent today trying to row back from her comments, saying that her piece should ‘not have gone out in my name’. This seemed like an unlikely excuse: a national newspaper wouldn’t publish an authored piece without the

person’s say-so. It’s also likely that the article – if not the headline – would have been approved by Champion or someone in her office before it was published (Guido Fawkes have published an email suggesting this was the case, and a spokesman for the Sun is saying the same).

Now, Champion is gone from the shadow cabinet. She said in her statement:

I apologise for the offence caused by the extremely poor choice of words in The Sun article on Friday. I am concerned that my continued position in the Shadow Cabinet would distract from the crucial issues around child protection which I have campaigned on my entire political career. It is therefore with regret that I tender my resignation as Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities.....'




So,  in answer to your question, yes I agree. She had to stand down. For the very reason she gave in her statement.

And there we have the problem, when people are fearful of speaking the truth , fearful of losing their jobs and fearful of their fellow human beings that surround them and that they cannot trust
That’s why we need people like TR , you would have to be half mad not to listen

Facts and Pineapple,

Do you disagree or agree with this statement from Sarah Champion:

" Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls."

I disagree IT

its odd, the Government seem to want racist trouble,surely they could a far better job protecting kids from these filthy gangs and protect the British public from returning nutters hell bent on killing us from Syria or wherever these devils are,isnt it the first rule of Government to protect?

Porky aint got any daughters.. NAP ... or a bit of skirt ... DOUBLE NAP