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Ireland's Abortion vote on Friday
Ireland's Abortion vote on Friday
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now who’s feeding the parents? Because if the parents are eating and the children are not that’s child cruelty
And the parents or parent should be reported , has that happened ? If not why not ? |
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I think you’re getting mixed up, I’m talking about punishing the parents for their crimes
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yeah but they haven't committed a crime. unfortunately being a bad parent is not punishable by law, unless it is beyond bad
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If you are eating and your children are not that is child cruelty and is punishable by law
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unfortunately not the case. over feeding kids should also be a crime but unless you are actually starving them, no crime.
i think for once we may be on the same page in general but as usual you have a more binary view |
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my point is if there are children who are starving in Britain , not getting enough to eat , that can be addressed in whichever way you think or the country thinks is best
However because children are not being properly fed or looked after does not mean that there is poverty in Britain It means the parents are guilty of child cruelty Now you can approach thaf in whichever way you want But it’s not a question of poverty |
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no in some cases it is poverty. in loads of others it is drugs, drink or just basic f**kwittery but some
people are just badly off through no fault of their own. i'm guessing you will now tell me that is just a myth. my evidence is purely anecdotal tho |
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Every family in Britain has enough to feed and clothe and take care of their children, every one
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up to a point. i agree bad parenting is far more of a problem but trust me working families struggle to make ends meet.
depressingly families who don't seem to work go on holiday to Florida. not quite worked that one out  |
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good to see not all national votes are going the way of the medievalists - and by a proper majority too
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I don’t like them either
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look at a picture of Ronan Keating and say that again
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How can you dislike 5 million people on a whim
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well I didn't say I disliked 5 million people now did I ?
Slippy Blue claims to be Irish and no one could dislike him |
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^^^you wrote "I don't like them either" that seemed fairly all encompassing
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northanlite there is no point reading words if you don't understand words
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what part of "i don't like them either" was misunderstood?
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not all countries or the countries people are the same,
I like some and dislike others , I’m like that Some I really dislike quite a lot , Ireland and the Irish are up there |
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^ more inane drivel.
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I would really, really, really, really, really, really put Swabians, especially the ones from Biberach, at the very top of your dislike list if I were you, lfc.
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I will take a look at that whoever they are edy
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They're not really bad people (though they're scrooges), but utterly incapable in some vital areas.
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like simple things like catching and holding onto round objects.
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never knew Tim Wiese was a Swabian
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me neither
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Personally I cant help think the argument that I kept hearing from 'pro abortionists' when they said;
'it's about giving women the power to make decisions about their own bodies' Actually the decision about what they do with their bodies came before and resulted in them becoming pregnant. What abortion generally is is a killing for convenience. Every action has a consequence. |
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The Germans describe them as being stingy, overly serious, prudish and petty bourgeois
simpletons!  I wasn't as rude as that about the Irish, although they deserved it |
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That's the 'easy' part over now they have to convince the medical people to do the abortions.
Can see loads of doctors, nurses and midwives refusing. Be plenty of pressure on them from the church. |
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26 May 18 12:54 Just an empty shell, a bunch of assembled cells without any sort of awareness being done away with. Calling it a child is wrong terminology. - an awful ignorance. 'How your baby is growing at 10 weeks of pregnancy Your baby's heart is now fully developed, and beats about 180 times a minute. Her legs can rotate at the hip joint, and her arms can move at the shoulder. She's testing this new flexibility by instinctively kicking and moving her limbs. Your baby’s forehead is bulging with her developing brain, although this is only temporary. And she’s beginning to lift her chin from her chest so that her head is more upright. ' In Ireland's new law babies will be killed up to 12 weeks and 24 in exceptional circumstances.  |
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EU told ire to sort out the situation with catholic run state paid hospitals ,hopefully they can be removed and put back in the churches where they belong ,and kept there ,high fences and pits with spikes needed imo .
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I don't want to get embroiled in this debate, but am quite keen to see points put fairly and reasonably.
One thing I haven't seen throughout this thread is that it is fairly likely that just about EVERY woman who has an abortion, doesn't take the decision lightly, nor is it a thing of enjoyment. A load of ignorant men pontificating from a completely self-belief perspective is not where the decision should lie. In the case of this vote, it didn't. Just like Brexit, it was a democratic vote! Also, Just to point out, in the above post (2.20pm): The word "she" is used to make the point just that little extra emotive. Undeveloped foetuses do not have a developed nervous system. |
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Boys and girls begin to develop differently at around 7 weeks gestation.
I find it deeply troubling that abortion is called a feminist issue. Presumambly 50% of those aborted are female...in fact in a few cultures girls are considered inferior, hence why the NHS in places like Luton don't even offer free screening for gender. |
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If people are educated as to the reality of the situation then falling pregnant outside that of sexual assault or indeed sexual coercion is down to a blasé attitude as to the reality of cause and effect (except for the cases where contraception itself fails), based on wanton desire...or worse, the trade off of sex for some form of gain.
By definition a woman needing an abortion is the result of a mistake. How else does society dissuade people of making mistakes other than through education and punishment? This hasn't really anything to do with scripture nowadays, this is about responsibility. To argue that women have the right to have an abortion just as one might decide what shoes one prefers to wear is making a mockery of a serious issue. |
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Maybe sex education in schools should show how abortions used to be carried out, with wire coat hangers and bottles of 'mother's pride', that would focus the mind, rather than loosening the law to fit around the after effects of making of mistakes.
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And get the catholic church out of the schools ,should not be allowed near children .
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There's no responsibility dusty. I heard one feminist say it was unjust to expect women to travel to England and pay for an abortion.
So they have unprotected sex, refuse to take responsibility for the result of that intercourse and then complain at having to pay for an abortion??? |