Chit Chat
Ireland's Abortion vote on Friday
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Being in the womb definitely happens before the age of 2 or 3 and that exactly was the question, so don't shet me on that.
And since abortion can't happen after someone has been born, I really don't understand why you want to know about pain from the first day onwards. |
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here are your words:
the child isn't getting hurt. no one remembers coming out of the mother crying" well they are crying detraveller aren't they ? |
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Of course they are crying. You ever heard about tears of joy?
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Its just that kids could do better by smiling at that point but they don't know that. That's why mothers teach kids how to laugh(and not how to cry)
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you see you don't remember much, anything before the age of 2
according to you that means you don't feel pain that's nonsense isn't it? |
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Yes, that's what I think. But i am sure scientists have already pointed out that some complicated part of the body and brain has already developed enough for babies to feel pain(I just googled it and there's loads of that stuff out there).
I just think saying a woman shouldn't abort pregnancy because it will be painful for the baby(if it is called a baby at that early stage) is laughable. For me. May not be true. But I find that ridiculous, just like you find my post ridiculous. |
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ah, but that's not what you said was it,
what you said didn't make sense, not just that but just about every part of that post read it again. |
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now anyone who thinks that children before the age of 2 or 3 do not feel pain because we don't remember things from before that age needs to go back and have a complete rethink on the subject
and stop trying to call others laughable |
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time out
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In England 97% of babies aborted were healthy. So giving women the right to abort at a ridiculously late stage of pregnancy is surely not right.
Seems the me me me brigade will be the main beneficiaries. Go out Sat night get p1ssed, then sh@gged, oh dear im pregnant. Never mind abortion is easy enough. Rinse and repeat. |
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If only someone could discover a way of avoiding getting pregnant in the first place that people could use. A sort of anti-conception, a contra-ception. Would be handy that.
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Sorry PP those devices don't seem to exist. Hope someone invents one soon.
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and 2) if you really think people just use abortion as birth control, then lol.
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som a public vote on the matter will be respected by both sides?
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so
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AN abortion can take place at 24 wks [6 months] in certain circumstances, now that's what i call a late stage.
And yes i do think some people will use abortion as a security blanket. |
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you prefaced it with talk about healthy babies as if that was relevant to the late stage abortions, which are going to be heavily restricted
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And yes i do think some people will use abortion as a security blanket.
we could move on to the real world instead of your imaginary scenarios where you have decided young people are irresponsible as up above @ 10:40am |
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and anyway, those abortions were still going to happen.
it just happens that now instead of having to travel to get them or seeking dangerous methods, they will actually be able to seek them in the safety of their own country and not be shamed for it |
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Imagine all these hyper irresponsible people, instead of getting abortions, raising dozens of similarly irresponsible kids, who themselves will raise dozens of irresponsible children.
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https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/abortion/what-happens/
Abortion - What happens Sounds a great and fun experience that women will just love to have time and again because they had sex a few times |
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Maybe, instead of aborting, a woman could give birth and let a couple that is desperate for children the opportunity to adopt?
The child wins, the couple win. What's not to like? |
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The result was always going to be yes. I didn't vote for the first time ever since becoming old enough to vote, the reason being I could not decide and agreed with some things from both sides and disagreed with a lot of things from both sides. I would have been leaning towards voting "yes" but did not like the Oireachtas recommendation of unrestricted abortion up to 12 weeks which the government will implement now. There should be abortion for rape victims, incest, fatal foetal abnormality and if the woman's health or mental health is in danger.
What is doing my head in is these utter fkin cants Simon Harris, Simon Coveney and Leo Varadakar being lauded as hero's as they jumped on the populist view when it became obvious (early on) what why the referendum would go. These absolute useless w*nkers have done so much harm to the country (just blame it all on the previous government who I agree where equally fkin useless) and still are and no doubt will use this as a reason for being elected again at the next general election and it will work with the thick fckrs in this country. |
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Exactly how did this 'parasite' happen to be implanted in the first place? Did the unborn child asked to be put there? Or did some woman not take the neccessary precautions to avoid an unwanted pregnancy?
I know who pays the price and it aint the woman. |
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Did the unborn child asked to be put there?
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if men gave birth and you were told you had to give birth and give the baby away if you didn't want a child, you'd think that was an okay and right stance to take against your situation?
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Just an empty shell, a bunch of assembled cells without any sort of awareness being done away with. Calling it a child is wrong terminology.
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the UK needs to kick Northern Ireland into shape next
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As soon as a woman is pregnant her primary responsibility is to the child, imo
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FatherMaguire 23 May 18 22:28
would be very disappointing if this wasnt voted in - theres an argument for only allowing women to vote on this I totally agree with this it really angers me when I see men objecting vehemently that a woman should not have the right to have an abortion for any reason whatsoever. |
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it involes men, and it does , both born and unborn , men and women and children
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The unborn child is I am afraid not the property of the woman to do with as she wishes
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Just as it is not the property of the woman after birth
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it’s not a question of importance , sorry I don’t necessarily think that way
It’s about protecting and caring for someone else , not just yourself |
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