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I even explained about dwarf stars/pulsars and the distance between atoms, wolf.
lfc obviously has the answer to the question mankind cannot even comprehend asking. You will not get anywhere. (I promise not to say it again). |
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no idea what study is waffling about now
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Can you quote the universal law related to time which states " Mass will be flattened "LFc or is it just a bizarre view you have with no evidence.
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I have to go out, Il look forward to the law of physics you will supply explaining it when I return
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yes, its the law of nature and natural things
ashes to ashes , dust to dust |
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a watched atom never decays, it takes time
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I was rather hoping somebody would comment on my previous post.
The Wiki entry Shape of the universe is also quite interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_universe I get the concepts but that's about as far as I can go. |
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My link was similar - but slightly easier to understand. Though still just about incomprehensible, Charlie.
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ah, thanks for that Charlie, it seems to confirm that the universe is flat(with only a 0.4% margin of error)
at least according to some theories, and mine |
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it is not in the same sense that a piece of paper is flat
means nothing |
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to lfc
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we are making progress, not with study however
he is incapable of even understanding the simplest thing such as the flatness of paper and the fact that it is 3D not 2D not good |
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lfc, the day I take any lessons on any subject from you is not coming any time soon.
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and people like study didn't believe that it was even possible for the universe to be flat
well the idea seems so unbelievable to him , I don't know why |
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I suppose we will always have stragglers like studyform
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We don't know what shape it is.
The most recent mathematical calculations say flat (the easiest to understand shape in this context). BUT NOT FLAT LIKE A PIECE OF PAPER. Which is what you keep insisting it is. fwiw, I Have no idea what shape or size the universe is. Nor do you. There is NO erosion in space, mountains are born and die as a result of plate tectonics and are always moving, albeit slowly. Time is relative. If viewed in ANY direction the furthest that can be seen is 13.8 billion light years. Nothing you have said makes proper sense. |
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a little learning is a dangerous thing
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I believe the Himalayas are among the newest mountains, probably why they're so tall (not worn down much yet) and when they are, some new ones will take their place as biggest.
About 300 million years ago, (iirc) the Antarctic was on the equator. It's ever changing. |
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I'm joining the 'Flat Universe Society', seems like fun.
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I see that the thread is still alive and lfc continues with his bollocks without justifying his reasoning, despite being politely requested several times now.
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you could say that about many of the threads on chit chat, detraveller
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Of course I could but I seldom have time to follow them all. Just studying one case at the moment.
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detraveller like studyform is a other one who couldn't conceive of the possibility that the universe could be flat, too abstract a concept for their brains to understand
And then when it is pointed out to them that the universe is flat, or at least might be, they become angry That's the typical response of a stupid person. The same thing will happen next time they are wrong on whatever subject it doesn't matter,,( it wont be long) they will become angry again That's why they remain stupid |
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Coming from anyone else, I might be slightly offended, but as it's you lfc and, mathematically speaking, 2 minuses makes a plus, I'm flattered.
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:) you,re welcome
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For the record, this is my fourth attempt at asking for the answer.
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detraveller I will try again, time makes everything flat, given enough time
you, mentioned mountains on earth, why do they not become flat They are, and they will, given enough time, its inevitable you say some mountains on earth are rising, not becoming flat So what, mountains are formed by the movement of the earths plates rubbing against each other these plates, and the mountains will crumble into dust and become flat Given enough time, the universe has had more than enough time Now I don't want to have to explain that again have to go out |
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Thanks lfc. You're repeating the exact thing I am asking the explanation for. Time makes everything flat, given enough time, everything will become flat, mountains will be flat, universe has had more than enough time etc etc.
I just asked why time makes things flat, and not some other shape. Or why erosion makes things flat. Also I never said anything about the mountains rising or becoming flat, don't associate things with me that I don't say. |
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When the earth gets destroyed , most likely by the sun exploding in however million years- it will not be flat but its a hopeless case to convince those that wont accept it.
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detraveller look at it this way
lets say after the big bang, whatever , the universe was the shape of a mountain now within that mountain there were caves and potholes and rivers and little creatures etc now given enough time everything decays and erodes , it may take a very long time but that is inevitable, that's life and gradually the mountain changes shape , over time , it breaks becomes smaller until it is no longer a mountain , and disappears into the valleys and the sea until eventually it is only dust and particles that's time that's what time does and then you see the universe is no longer the shape of a mouintain, it is flat, as flat as a piece of paper |
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will look in later, have to go out
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Of course I should say that the little creatures within the mountain were not alive when all these changes were taking place in the vast reaches of past time
And now they are but a microscopic dot in the vast expance of space and unable to see very far from within their own little world But there are signs and evidence and hints of what took pace, and indeed is ongoing, for those who can think in a clever and logical and creative and original way I think that might be where you and studyform are going wrong, well study might be the worst but you,re not much better detraveller |
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It was better for you before the explanation lfc.
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For the record, this is the fifth time I have asked this question.
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oh dear detraveller I will have to explain to you again, for more than the 5th time
lets take a mountain, as I have just done to represent the universe now over time the mountain will erode and decay and wear away until it becomes dust merely particles that will be swept away into the sea and valleys that means the mountain has become flat over time it is not possible for it to do anything else |
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indeed it is inevitable, given enough time
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now I will have to look in later
I don't want to come back and see any more silly comments detraveller try and get a little idea of the vastness of time and what that means what it must mean |