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Think it should be taxed...
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no such thing, words have power, power has consequence
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It cannot happen ...
Anyone calling it as it is ,is gagged ... |
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shhhhhhh
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Its like y'know man, for you and me, we're all brothers, and you just open your mouth, like air is free, and stuff, the man can't stop you. I'm a bit short at the moment, can you lend me a fiver, do you want some of this its good
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Yes, if you could only spell it properly.
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I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.
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I certainly believe speech should be free, but should you say the wrong thing then a heavy price will be paid in this modern world.
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Free speech - certainly does not exist in the UK ...
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And never has. Thankfully.
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People only want to deny you your free speech in order to exert power over you, i.e. it's a basic form of oppression and control.
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Free peach? I prefer kiwis.
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There never has been and never will be, free speech. Anywhere.
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pineapple and study are typical of their sort
no one likes to be thankful. |
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You spend SO much time writing nonsense lfc.
Don't you have ANYTHING else to do? |
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studyform you have grown up over your very many years in a country that has allowed you greater freedoms in speech and in all aspects of life than perhaps any other country and at any other time in the history of the world
And still you are whining |
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I'm not whining.... where have I whined?
I just stated a fact. Your trolling is particularly bad today. |
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let me give you a clue, you said there is no such thing as free speech anywhere
now I was trying to put that in context, ie with other countries such as soviet Russia and Nazi Germany where by saying something vorbotten it might cost you your life now it was youself than mentioned everywhere, that I am afraid is not just whining but dishonest as well |
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lfc almost stumbles on it.
You can have freer speech. Certainly. Who could argue against that? But there's never been completely free speech. For pretty bleedin obvious reasons. Doesn't stop certain types getting wound up by their puppet masters though. |
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It's pointless, isn't it. I wrote a single, simple to understand line.
Somehow it becomes "whining" or "dishonest" Just to repeat it - without sentiment, without comparison. There never has and never will be, free speech. Anywhere. You aren't stumbling on anything lfc, are you? P or P, I'm sure it was you who told me (maybe not though), lfc likes arguing - it's his form of trolling/passing time. |
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As long as your views are the same as mine have at it
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Jes suis Charlie..as long as you don't offend Muslims, gays, feminists or Jews.
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This thread makes me believe in free dictionaries
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To the OP >>>>
no such thing as free speech. If you're a bully boy in in a primary school making a little girl cry would the teacher say "fine, it's free speech". |
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When people talk about 'free speech' they usually mean free opinion.
But one side of the debate always comes in with the lame ''you can't shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre'' I don't see any reasons why we should not have free opinion. If people want certain opinions silenced you have to wonder why that is. |
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No......
Its like autonomy , human equality , equal opportunities ,fresh air , self sufficiency , etc.... all need value judgements .... by other humans. Nice ideas though . |
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If people want certain opinions silenced you have to wonder why that is.
In our country we have it about right now. It's generally the inciting hatred thing that most object to. You know, when people with no bottle influence those with mush for brains towards wiping others out... etc. |
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"I don't see any reasons why we should not have free opinion.
If people want certain opinions silenced you have to wonder why that is." Ok let's play devils advocate here. What if I have the opinion that white people/black people/christian people/muslim people are evil? What if I wanted to impart this opinion to say a group of children at an unregistered school? Would you want to silence my opinion? |
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no that is not free speech, you can have any opinion you wish as long as it doesn't affect other people
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Of course if the majority of people wish to set up a school and to teach these principles then there is nothing that can be done about that
That is why it is the person that is important not so much the ideal of free speech |
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that is what people don't understand about things like free speech and democracy
they only work when people are the same and believe in the same basic principles that's why immigration and multiculturism is so dangerous |
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Agreed
As someone else said its all about POWER Of one human over another. Yes we all hate bullying , yes we all hate discrimination..... But in reality we dont .......do we Unfortunately the human race is just a work in progress |
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you see you cant separate free speech in and off itself, free speech does not absolve someone from stupidity or evil thoughts and words
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free speech is permissible, important, essential when it is used to protect freedoms and the basic human rights.
it is not permissible when it is used to impede and destroy these basic human rights what is` o difficult to understand about that? |
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And that is why there is no such thing as free speech. You can have free speech among a group of friends with shared interests, sense of humour etc. But you can't in a wider society. Speech is simply the expression of thoughts. Once you express them then you are potentially influencing others.
So UA's example is relevant. If you demand free speech, then you are demanding the possibility of an extreme religious school that teaches non-believers do not deserve to live. If you think that shouldn't be allowed then you are demanding limits on free speech. It really is that simple. |
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no you are not placing limits on free speech, you are placing limits on what people can do
don't confuse one with the other |
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there is a difference between free speech as an individual and the implementation of the ideals set out in free speech in a democracy
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does the principle of free speech mean you can do what you want just because that is what you believe, no
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