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www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-say-trump-freezes-obamas-last-minute-221-million-payout/

Palestinians say Obama’s last-minute $221 million payout frozen by Trump
Source says State Department has notified Ramallah the funds will not be immediately available, while it examines the transfer

The Trump administration has informed the Palestinian Authority that it is freezing the transfer of $221 million which was quietly authorized by the Obama administration in its final hours on January 20, a senior Palestinian source has told The Times of Israel.

US officials conveyed to PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah on Tuesday that the funds were not expected to be handed over in the immediate future, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

On Tuesday, the State Department said it was reviewing the last-minute decision by former secretary of state John Kerry to send the funds to the Palestinians despite objections to the transfer by congressional Republicans.

The department said it would look at the payment and might make adjustments to ensure it comports with the Trump administration’s priorities.

The Obama administration had for some time been pressing for the release of the money for the Palestinian Authority, which comes from the US Agency for International Development, known as USAID, and is to be used for humanitarian aid in the West Bank and Gaza to support political and security reforms, as well as help prepare for good governance and the rule of law in a future Palestinian state, according to the notification sent to Congress.

Even without the $221 million, the Palestinian source noted that in 2016 the PA received $250 million from the US government.

These funds included $180 million from USAID, $25 million to support Palestinian hospitals and $45 million to pay for fuel purchased from Israel.

Congress had initially approved the Palestinian funding in budget years 2015 and 2016, but at least two GOP lawmakers — Ed Royce of California, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and Kay Granger of Texas, who sits on the House Appropriations Committee — had placed holds on it over moves the Palestinian Authority had taken to seek membership in international organizations. Congressional holds are generally respected by the executive branch but are not legally binding after funds have been allocated.

Kerry formally notified Congress that State would release the extra $221 million money Friday morning, just hours before President Donald Trump took the oath of office.

Granger released a statement Tuesday saying, “I am deeply disappointed that President Obama defied congressional oversight and released $221 million to the Palestinian territories.”

She added: “I worked to make sure that no American taxpayer dollars would fund the Palestinian Authority unless very strict conditions were met. While none of these funds will go to the Palestinian Authority because of those conditions, they will go to programs in the Palestinian territories that were still under review by Congress. The Obama Administration’s decision to release these funds was inappropriate.”

They didn't just protest and throw a couple of stones? They also tried to storm a border? What would have happened if they had broken through. Were they intent on having a cup of tea on the other side?

If a group is big enough it can be threatening to armed soldiers even if the attackers only have primitive weapons, and there were thousands of people who tried to storm the border. If it only had been a handful of people I'm sure the Israelis would have managed to stop them using non-lethal force. To me it seems like they did what they could to keep the number of deaths as low as possible. They dropped leaflets and used radio broadcasts to warn people to stay away from the border (the warnings even reached me in Europe the day before!). They used teargas and fired warning shots, and after that shot at the ankles as much as possible.

There's not going to be a peaceful solution to the conflict until the Palestinians reject Hamas. It's impossible.

I heard reports that some protesters were armed with explosives and AK47s.

Labour is infested with Muslims lets be brutally Anne Frank about it.  They are the enemy within as far as I am concerned ,if we ever have to go to war with some Muslim country these people will not fight shoulder to shoulder with us.  They will fight for their fellowships against the infidel. Multiculturalism never succeeds and it will end up in bloodshed for all the countries who have allowed these parasites to get foot holds ,Sweden is at boiling point ,the Germans are now seeing merkels mistakes and Italy may be out of the eu before us.  Posturing ,virtue signalling and lack of any concrete thinking will leave these countries like this till it blows up.  WHO'S side are you on?.

timbuctooth    16 May 18 20:44 
Why is it `apartheid`, please? It`s the only Middle Eastern state that allows Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Political Association, Sexual Equality, same-sex partnerships, etc, etc. It`s actually a world leaser in such issues, without the slightest hint of apartheid to be seen.


Something for you to read buckteeth

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-makdisi-israel-apartheid-20140518-story.html

Let's see you pick holes in that, I'm sure you will.




Let's see you pick holes in that. Sure you will.

That is not apartheid, that is merely a country looking after its own citizens over and above citizens of another country
Every country should do the same, it’s the only way to bring about peace and progress

Complaining about the Israeli flag :) too bad

May 17, 2018 -- 10:06AM, flushgordon1 wrote:

Labour is infested with Muslims lets be brutally Anne Frank about it.

What is a democratic country? It is a group of people who believe in the same fundamental things, who share pretty much the same values and have the same outlook when it comes to how they want to live

That’s all democracy means , it is dangerous not to understand that

Not a good start to the day for me. But I was posting nonsense anyways.

As usual,a good debate.Well done Betfaries.

Some nice little risqué jokes have come to light covered over in the Anne Frank diaries :

Why are weirhmach women in Holland ?
To be the soldiers mattresses

A man , if he is normal , goes with a girl , when they meet in the steet they go together
There are big houses in Paris they go to, my father has been there

A man with an ugly wife finds her in bed with a man
He thinks to himself, he gets to, and I have to

: ) not bad for a 13 year old girl

Was thinking the same detraveller.


Firstly, wondering what the mods are thinking allowing that kind of comment to be on site still.


Secondly, the sheer hypocrisy of some on here. Up in arms about being called gammons but strangely quiet if some other terms are used in the other direction. And now Israel. Shine a light on the atrocities being committed and you're quickly labelled an anti-semitic racist. And yet the same people say a party is infested with Muslims.


Shame on Betfair frankly for allowing people to regularly post such undiluted racism on their forum.

If you don’t address the problems within the Labour Party and prefer to pretend they don’t exist then any comment that is made about Israel will come under suspicion

Try and understand that first

Is Israel perfect? No far from it

But it is much much better than any Muslim country and many other countries that are not Muslim

have you been?

Talk about falling into the trap,thats what they want fools to say "o really you must be anti jew" when people conplain about their appalling behaviour which leaves them free to do whatever they like

I have personally never understood anti-semitism. Probably due to my lack of knowledge. But from the political perspective, it is a great tool to have. Keeps the sheep busy.

And grounds people down,all very smart

Look at Corbyn. He has convinced people he is anti-semitic(apol. if that's not the right word) and in bed with the russians. What if, God forbid, the people found out he had absolutely no interest in the well being of the british people and started talking about it? That would be the end of his career. But he knows people love to talk about the jews and russia. So he feeds them exactly that. And the sheep bite every time.

Trump does that same. People like to talk about his stupidity so he feeds them exactly that. He can say and do anything and people won't talk about the issue, they'll talk about his stupidity.

I firmly believe its all a sideshow so people don't look at G5 before they roll it out All over the World, mind blowing perfectly sums it up

Porky since when were facts racist?.

I've just read the "Gammons" thread. I don't see anyone getting upset as Porky claims, just a few jokes about chips on shoulders.

"Up in arms" was porky's term, not "upset"

they were mainly hamas terrorists it turns out
will they headline this as they went berserk in the UN and all over the media 

porky and the other apologists and virtue signallers all have egg on their faces

May 17, 2018 -- 3:39PM, moisok wrote:

they were mainly hamas terrorists it turns out will they headline this as they went berserk in the UN and all over the media  porky and the other apologists and virtue signallers all have egg on their faces

You mean the ones who died were hamas terrorists?

no they were all peaceful sheep farmers who have never ever herd of hamas  (did you sea wot I done there)

It was a serious question :)

What I wanted to ask was did some media say this or you are making an educated guess(which I can appreciate might be correct)

and they want more of it to happen

The ones who are behind  the innocent sheep farmers

only about 85 percent were innocent sheep farmers

the rest were just there sunbathing

if you aren't answering the question, just say so man.

Your humor is great by the way.

I no its grate

now we have established  who was behind it all the apologists will have to find another subject to give the knuckle draggers another good thrashing from the moral high ground

seems they and the media plus the UN jumped far too soon

May 17, 2018 -- 3:39PM, moisok wrote:

they were mainly hamas terrorists it turns out will they headline this as they went berserk in the UN and all over the media  porky and the other apologists and virtue signallers all have egg on their faces

so this was just the usual rant? I thought you really had something concrete.

the sheep farmers certainly had

just facts about the sheep farmers day out

but it made good headlines for a while
now we will switch to THE WEDDING
ho ho

and all you miserable republicans will end up in the tower for hate crimes

crystalhunt    17 May 18 10:32 

Something for you to read buckteeth

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-makdisi-israel-apartheid-20140518-story.html

Let's see you pick holes in that, I'm sure you will.


So, sensible, God-fearing Jews don`t really want bomb makers living next door, and the Police, (who know all too well who the murderous type are), stop and search them more than they do the God-fearing? And you think this is a bad thing, you want those intent on your destruction living next door? I`d think such policies were fairly common sense and, quite frankly, nobody will believe any virtue-signaller who says` yes, I want people who want to kill me living next door`. 
Really gotta try harder, you anti-semitic leftie hypocritical bedfellows of isis, CHORTLE at such feeble attempts!
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Have you guys noticed that with the Muslim hatred since the refugee crisis, something orchestrated by our own govts, it has become much easier to sympathize with the Israelis?

Just a conspiracy theory

not in my world m8

I think you`ll find not wanting to be killed, by those whose religion tells them to do just that, precedes the `refugee crisis` by some 1500 years!

What The Crusaders?

They were supposed to be God fearing Christians timbuctooth! and the Priest's of that religion beat and buggered little boys. Are they the ones you mean?

Typical smart ar$e response from the village idiot buckteeth. The Israeli government can do what they like as far as people like you are concern, you'll find a reason to justify it. Netanyahu is a criminal.

No true Priest has EVER done such things! Those reported to have done so were not actual Catholic Priests, but `sleepers`, planted years ago with the intent of besmirching the impeccable record of the Catholic Church since St. Paul. We used to suspect the Protestants, but more recently a different religion has come under suspicion...

How do get a priest to shag a nun,   dress her up as an altar boy.

it was a hamas set up - never mind - most of you and the media won't headline that now will they

having trashed the apologists they no longer want to talk about now we have established that the terrorists were all behind it and so many hamas 'soldiers' were killed

May 18, 2018 -- 8:12PM, moisok wrote:

having trashed the apologists they no longer want to talk about now we have established that the terrorists were all behind it and so many hamas 'soldiers' were killed

The side that holds the power can afford silence to ward off the issue. The whining is for the weak.

So it turns out the huge majority of those killed WERE Hamas? But it didn't stop the leftie woman on This Week going on about the more than 1000 "injured".

Well define "injured"? Tear gas cough or sore eyes as it was being used liberally to keep them back? Fell over throwing a stone and cut their hand? Burned their hand lighting petrol?

If the israeli army shot 1500 people and they were only a bit hurt then either they are using pretty awful weaponry or they are the best shots in the world who can shoot the eye out of a fly, with all this merely winging people from a large distance.

OR the injured toll is a load of propaganda war sh1t from the gazan authorities. Know what I believe.

It is called manufacturing news.  Not this new fake news stuff.
I direct you towards the Glasgow media studies group - still going I think - some 40 years or so.

I really do not want to type a huge treatise on this but....

take allepo - 700,000 about to be harmed by assad's thugs. HEADLINES HEADLINES HEADLINES-   So what happened.  I remember it going down to 500000 then 200k
then 50  etc etc  - get the drift  - all reported from turkey etc but not in allepo

same with Bouhta  (have I spelt that right?)  400,000 only this time - what happened?

etc etc

same with the hamas terrorists flinging themselves at the fences etc etc

the media did it with the mods and rockers in the 60s(I was there)  senasationalist reporting
one geezer died and there was a huge moral panic whipped up in the press

there has been little journo investigation  just popular sensationalisation.

and I could go on.

Some people (you know the type) still use the original propaganda figure given out of the death toll of Dresden to say how bad the Brits are - when this was made up by Goebbels to make the allies look bad, or worse, quote figures from neo-nazi sites, when these figures are like 10-20x respectively out from what is considered accurate now, and by the actual city authorities at the time. That's the way lies work.

it is swiftly forgotten and we move on to the next part of the agenda

anyone dare look at the grenfell tragedy!!??  like who started the fire for a start?

You guys talk about this like war propaganda just started. Anyone who controls the media will and does do it.

Mainstream media hasn't reported anything about what the hamas spokesman said. Someone is badly out of tune here. And I am afraid it is the media. If it is indeed them, I have to say they have to be bloody powerful to ignore and manufacture news just like that.

hamas said 50 of their people were killed - hope this helps

what's your point?

excellent video "Arms manufacturers use Israel"s massacres in Gaza to test new technology" 1o mins long talking with a leading arms expert

Is there nothing you won't debase with your conspiracy bullsh1t?

why do you always bat for the wrong side, that clueless post of yours which you totally made up one question, how many jewish soldiers were hurt or killed? shame you refuse to watch because you might learn something because you get everything wrong

IF that's all you got to try to shut me up forget it

Terry are you batting for Hamas who's intention was to get this crowd of 'protestors' through the Israeli defences so they could murder their citizens?

Do you think so? well they made a real sh1t job of it then!anyway how on earth could they do it,they know they are going to be totally out gunned so I cant agree with you

I thought you didn't want the hamas terrorists to be outgunned terry, which is it?

"Right lads we need to get to the other side. Now it's a pretty tough fence and we know there's a full army on the other side with snipers in position and automatic weapons and tanks on standby."


"Sure boss, we're ready. Not that I'm moaning or anything but can I just check what we'll be carrying. I presume we'll all have flak jackets obviously. Maybe some automatic weapons to push them back, some of our own boys in position to pick theirs off before we send the infantry in to secure the area."


"Yeah, something like that. Listen, can you all line up against this wall and pick up a stone. When I count to 3, I want to see who can throw it furthest. After that, pick up one of those racquets and let's see who can ping missiles back to where they came. For anyone who can't throw, come and get your pea shooters and don't forget to take a sheet of paper each. Make sure you give them a damn good cut between their fingers. Forget the chemical weapons being used, that's a real battle winner there. Good luck everyone. Not that we'll need it!"

they shot at least 50 hamas terrorists

now unless you don't understand hamas terrorists murder innocent men women and children
it is a terrorist organisation
if the Israeli army have them in their sights it is their duty to shoot them

I don't want anything IFC expect love and peace to be honest

I always thought it was LFC and not IFC :/

I think it is indeed LFC.

It doesn’t mean anything in that sense , I was given that name I didn’t choose it, when I joined betfair , by someone I don’t know
And yet I support Liverpool and have done since 1971

Isn’t that a strange coincidence ? I can’t explain it

Fook me does it stand for Liverpool football club?

detraveller I have just explained it to you

never realized that

: )

lol beg your pardon

"Killing Gaza" a new documentary which shows why these people are protesting, its no good people saying they deserve it and make up reasons why they do. If you were so unlucky to have to suffer a life there id bet you would protest too

The people behind it all just want to eliminate Israel  - nothing serious.

with what ffs?

their backhand

bombs and missiles honey   who do you think is sponsoring all this sh!te

perhaps it is Children in Need  (of some fun so lets go and chuck a brick at a soldier)

some people are of immensely KAHNTian pursuasion are they not

I know who sponsor one side but who the Gaza boys? very one sided battle so who ever sponsors aint doing a very good job. The shame is that they cant live in harmony

There is no proof its Iran before you answer btw

I'm sure many would say its Iran(they could be, i'm not debating that). And using that, they'll happily buy US+EU sponsoring of Saudi in the Iran war that is about to start soon. But the moment an Iranian guy runs around flashing a knife and saying Allah o Akbar, the same people will wonder why they hate us. It has happened before and we'll see it happen again. Moisok and co will be whining right here. Though I hope they just create a mega thread this time

Hasn't one of Trump's boys just accused Iran of being behind well just about everything.


It's just Iraq and Saddam all over again.




The sad thing is that Iraq's still fresh in our memory and you'd think there'd be enough pressure on them not to so blatantly try to change the regime through force just because they want to. But no, carry on. More billions pumped into US weapons manufactures, more innocent people killed, more refugees getting washed up on European beaches, more impressionable kids being told the only way to heaven is to send 50 infidels to hell. It just keeps going on and on and while the powerful have so much to gain and so little to lose it's never going to stop.

I don’t think you understand, unless Iran stops it’s support of terrorist  organisations throughout the regime and stops its nucleur programme then America will return to sanctions
Now you may want countries such as Britain and Germany and France to continue to support this barbaric state to continue with no sanctions
That’s fine , America disagrees , and there is thankfully nothing you can do about it

spot on Pineapple

You see people like lfc are the reason weapons manufacturers can control politicians so easily. And like Moisok, he was one of the ones whining about arab refugees in Europe when he didn't have any issues with UK troops present in their countries. Many like lfc and moisok think war is one way traffic when it's not.

People like lfc and moisok will happily send troops and bomb countries but the moment one of theirs turns up in their backyard waving a knife or showing his driving skills, they'll soil their pants. You can see that if you check the threads from 2016 on this forum. I always suggested them to create a mega thread but they were good and fast enough to whine on multiple threads every day.

Until they convert and become lefties, they are doomed.

you have to go to the source of the problem detraveller, that’s countries such as Iran
Now America is a sovereign country if it wants to impose sanctions it will,
stop whining

Now if Europe is stupid enough to give free houses and money to anyone who happens to arrive on it border then too bad
It doesn’t bother me , some European countries of course are not so silly

weve got 5G coming real soon,lets see who is whining then sunshine

People like lfc and moisok will happily send troops and bomb countries but the moment one of theirs turns up in their backyard waving a knife or showing his driving skills, they'll soil their pants.


de traveller why don't you just stop trashing me you are making false statements about me and what I have said where have I said the above
but only what I expect from a 'progressive'  ie  when losing the argument tell a pack of lies and denegrate people who may have a different opinion

a simple apology will be acceptable

Your posts are the proof, you may look back at them or ponder over the next thread you create.

No point demanding apologies on an anonymous forum.

It is fine to tell a pack of lies about someone. Amazing scenes.

bombing countries - really??

As a fan of carpet bombing I ask the question where will we bomb next?  We are even helping our allies, the Saudi, to trash the threat from Yemen.  Will we back the Saudis allying with Israel to screw the Iranians, or can they do that themselves without the help?

The yanks are scared of erd the goon's spreading Ottoman Empire.  So where will they start next to increase the value of our armaments manufacturers' shares.

Looking to hear from all fellow warmongers' comments on this.

I prefer moquette, it's heavier and more durable than ordinary carpet. If you're going to do something, do it properly and hang the expense.

When we have Brexited, we shall have to take a closer look at Brussels. It's close by so we won't even have to ask the navy to put to sea.

apparently acording to traveller I am a fan of aerial bombardment of countries

Do you think we have the resources for a whole country? Would a grand duchy meet your requirements?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/16/netanyahu-needs-conflict-to-survive/

How Israel politics thrives on an unresolved conflict. They have the solution, they just don't want to solve the problem. Its the people that suffer in the end.

Same goes for a lot of muslim countries where hatred against jews is a popular way to gather votes. No one in their right mind is ever gonna wipe Israel off the map. But they can all get popular by claiming to do so.

At the end of the day, its all about money and power.