Once Merkel gets her way the chit chat forum will be displayed in Fraktur. Some forumites my die of anger

non of the eu erse lickers wouldn't know what you imply there lfc

born into something which is taken as read and cannot be changed

certainly the politicos don't want ANY fundamental change

wonder how that will end  led by merkel

how did the last attempted expansion, east, end?

it stopped at moscow

this time it stopped at the ukraine/russian border


oh hang on Merkel's other experiment  -  I forgot - the erdogan invitation - not yet - but they are waiting in the wings

tell me how any NATION will be able to stop it

when they try to stop so called refugees the eu hierarchy threaten them

and they're not stopping the immigrant flow anyway

but our erse lickers on here love it

Dan, you're name iz alzo on ze lizt!

Auslieferungshaftbefehl (extradition warrant) done by the court, rebellion charges already dismissed as invalid, released on bail.

Good to see he is finally released on bail. He should not have been locked up for so long.

moisok you are out of order complaining about German propaganda. You cannot blame modern day Germans for the actions of Goebbels. One man angry about not getting a job in the Jewish dominated press almost 100 years ago has nothing to do with modern day Germany. Its is like people in the 1980s blaming Britain for setting up concentration camps in South Africa at the turn of the last century. All countries and cultures have a history that is not acceptable in the modern world. Most have adapted to the modern world and have equal rights for women etc.

The hope now is that Spain drop the charges again as they did when Belgium refused to allow the sedition charges.

ps  and quite a few german PEOPLE also vote for her so approve of these moves?

Merkel is a product of a broken political system in Germany. The majority voted against her but she clings onto power. She has no children.

In 2010 Merkel said multicultural society had failed.

In her first speech in 2018 after being elected she said 'Islam is a part of Germany'.

She is clueless where she stands on the issue of our time.

It appears there is a massive guilt in Germany because of the views of a few nutters back in the 1930s. It does not help that people like moisok keep going an about it.

Hopefully the likes of Edy know they should have no guilt about it. Current Germans have done nothing wrong. They should be free to vote to protect their culture without the fear of being called a Nazi.

Then when she clung to power in 2018:

https://qz.com/1234662/angela-merkel-says-islam-is-part-of-germany-in-her-first-major-speech-of-her-new-term/

Russia has a far higher Muslim population.

But I think you are confusing radical Islamic ideas with being a Muslim.

The two things are completely different.

Russia's non muslim population is in a terrible decline.  pootin's oppression and corruption has driven talented young people out of the country on top of a long term population decline.  Russia should have the standard of living of western Europe but corruption prevents any investment on normal terms ie only huge companies looking to make supernormal profits.

Here's an article about the demographics

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-05/world-war-still
-haunts-putin-as-population-decline-taxes-economy

InsiderTrader • April 5, 2018 7:29 PM BST
Merkel is a product of a broken political system in Germany. The majority voted against her but she clings onto power.

uhm...what? That's simply proportional representation, practiced by a whole bunch of countries. Not quite sure in what way you think the political system is broken. Her party got the most votes, by quite a distance even, whether people like it or not (and I did not vote for her party), and hence her party had the best chances of providing the chancellor and being part of the government.

I think it's quite rare that you get an absolute majority for parties in proportional representation. Doesn't mean the system is broken. In the UK's first past the post system, the winning party mostly seems to get 30 to 40 per cent, i.e the majority  of people voting against the winning party.

In 2010 Merkel said multicultural society had failed.

In her first speech in 2018 after being elected she said 'Islam is a part of Germany'.

These two things don't exclude each other. Also, in that very same 2010 speech in front of the Youth CDU in which Merkel declared Multikulti as failed, she already too said that Islam is part of Germany.

The stance that people need to integrate, learn the language etc., there being a sort of "Leitkultur" (leading culture) has always been there from Merkel and her party (and the Bavarian sister party CSU, which now heads the "Heimatministerium"...a sort of home&culture department). In 2010, 2015, 2018. That does not exclude Islam being practiced, and being part of Germany (which has freedom of religion in its constitution)

It appears there is a massive guilt in Germany because of the views of a few nutters back in the 1930s. It does not help that people like moisok keep going an about it.

I don't feel guilt, but keeping the remembrance alive is important.

Germany must be paranoid Bavaria leaves Germany and joins Austria, after all the Bavarians are closer in race, culture and religion to Austria than the  Germans

and the bump was about German courts, as sensible, unhysterical people thought from the beginning, not allowing an extradition on charges for sedition and Spain dropping the charges altogether afterwards.