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asparagus 06 Mar 18 13:32
Go Ballistic, that's just nonsense. Paula was cleared by the IAAF who have her complete blood test history and by UKAD. Of course she was cleared by the IAAF. They sat on the results for years and did nothing. Obviously you are entitled to the opinion that the IAAF is not at all corrupt and Ashendon, has no idea what he is talking about or is in some way biased, and that Paula achieved untouchable performances after EPO was invented on pan y agua |
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how many thousands of asthma sufferers throughout the world taking part in sports
many of them will be perfectly free from symptoms 99% of the time |
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The IAAF aren't fit for purpose and totally corrupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIkiC3iT0GA |
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What about Messi and the growth hormone ?
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Putting money into a charity to avoid paying tax,what a lovely character he's turning out to be..
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very sensible
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Drugs cheat and tax avoider says it all...
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nonsense, just doesn't want to pay tax if possible
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look around at who it goes to
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salmon spray there's endless stuff kept under the carpet all sport is riddled and has been for years though I hadn't heard that one about Messi presumably used HGH for recovery from injury?
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its in his biography, he was very small when a youngster in Argentina .
Barcelona were able to afford the costs of hgh when his family could not |
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nothing to do with injuries, he was just very talented as a footballer but too small
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Cheers lfc1971
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Steady on GRANTCKING you'll upset the fact police criticising our National heroes like that
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Go Ballistic, you seem to be suggesting that anyone who is a world record holder must be a drug taker. That's a rather cynical and sad attitude to take. There is no solid evidence whatsoever that Paula Radcliffe was doing anything illegal. I have no doubts whatsoever that she was clean.
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I agree Paula was legal but can't agree any athlete on these Asthma meds we've been doling out are clean when there are weaker versions with less performance benefits not used.
As for clean athletes breaking world records I'd say the one I've posted will never be broken clean as long as humans can run. Look where Caster Semenya is in the table This person has undescended testicles and a test level like men of similar age and is nearly 2 seconds behind the best time from 38 years ago. Correct as of August 2017.[7] Womens 800m Rank Time Athlete Nationality Date Place Ref 1 1:53.28 Jarmila Kratochvílová Czechoslovakia 26 July 1983 Munich 2 1:53.43 Nadezhda Olizarenko Soviet Union 27 July 1980 Moscow 3 1:54.01 Pamela Jelimo Kenya 29 August 2008 Zürich 4 1:54.44 Ana Fidelia Quirot Cuba 9 September 1989 Barcelona 5 1:54.81 Olga Mineyeva Soviet Union 27 July 1980 Moscow 6 1:54.94 Tatyana Kazankina Soviet Union 26 July 1976 Montreal 7 1:55.05 Doina Melinte Romania 1 August 1982 Bucharest 8 1:55.16 Caster Semenya South Africa 13 August 2017 London [8] |
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All odd looking world records should be viewed with caution, especially long held world records.
As for Paula Radcliffe, was she taking medication at the time? ermmmmmmmm might it have enhanced performance ermmmmmmmm Might be best when the testing system is much improved and these organisations have a grip then reset every world and start afresh. |
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I had that discussion at the weekend about starting afresh but there is zero control,many undetectable drugs/grey areas and a completely bent organisation watching over everything we'd have to live in a world of 1800's technology to make sport clean again
 and no £$ incentives |
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and all elite athletes and cyclists have a webpage
where every time they take any medication, including headache tablets, inhaler use, absolutely anything, must document it on the webpage that anyone can view anytime. If it transpires that they have taken something and not documented then instant lifetime ban. They have time for Twitter, making adverts etc they can do this. |
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Could look odd when 80% of the British cyclist team all admit to taking asthmatic drugs
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The figures are staggering if it was Russia it's obvious what eevryone's thoughts would be.
In fact the Russians have missed a trick imo with this gear plenty athletes who've done EPO/Test and Asthma meds at different times claim the Asthma gear is on a different level |
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Team doctors?
If they are so sick why are they not at home in bed? |
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I was going to start an Adam Peaty thread but I've been called a few names already on these threads I'll save him for later
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The doctors are more important than the athletes kincsem
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That kratochilova was a looker,s/he could've won the weight lifting no problem..
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http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-jarmila-kratochvilova-cze-competing-in-the-1983-world-athletics-championships-61927753.html
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Should of put a warning on the pic don't look too hard at the shorts
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVSmPBLnSXY
This will never be beaten clean either |
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nah,can't agree with that Denz..if she'd have been juicing it would surely have exacted a toll on her general health and she would've died young or smth
very smooth,elegant performance when running so incredibly quickly that it actually doesn't really look like she was running such an egregious time the interesting thing is what % of a difference speedwise are we talking? she is 27/100ths quicker than Ashford's next best time ..so roughly 2.5% looking at the fastest times they are more or less contemporaneous early 80s albeit this was 1988 guess hoes were just quicker then for whatever reason and genetics have regressed since |
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Still no decision about Froome:
The race director of the Tour de France has criticised the lack of a decision on Chris Froome’s failed drug test, calling the delay “grotesque”. Froome has won the Tour de France four times but it is understood Christian Prudhomme does not want the Briton at this year’s race while his doping case is unresolved. Cycling’s governing body, the UCI, is waiting for Froome and his representatives to submit their response to his adverse finding at the Vuelta a España last September. A urine test showed double the permitted level of the asthma medication Salbutamol in his system. But Froome and Team Sky insist he did not break any anti‑doping rules. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/06/tour-de-france-director-chris-froome-decision |
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Thought it had gone a bit quiet could be more to come with these lot?
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Florence Griffith-Joyner's world record has been the subject of a controversy due to strong suspicion of a defective anemometer measuring a tailwind lower than actually present;[37] since 1997 the International Athletics Annual of the Association of Track and Field Statisticians has listed this performance as "probably strongly wind assisted, but recognised as a world record".[38] It can be reasonable to assume a wind reading of about +4.7 m/s for Griffith-Joyner's quarter-final. Her legal 10.61 the following day and 10.62 at the 1988 Olympics would still make her the world record holder.[39]
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Didn't know that JML just got 0.0 wind speed on Wikapedia but it looked blowy on the video.
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She retired abruptly before mandatory drug testing began in 1989.
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Florence was tested more than any other athlete during the 1988 Olympics apparently and nothing found. She died at 39 due to suffocation in her sleep from a epileptic fit and no drugs found in her system apart from small trace amounts of two over the counter meds
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I think it's widely known that she was a long term steroid user though,not failing drug tests has been proven to be irrelevant
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Spot on Denzil
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Not that I am disagreeing nor really care but regardless of what is widely known ( or not ) the record states different
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