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Not sure what MPs would know about it but I shall be happy if it means the end of the BBC lauding cycling as if it is a sport anyone cares about outside of the Olympics and when a Brit wins the Tour de France.
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Every athlete that has taken EPO and Testosterone claim that the Asthma medications are on a different level to both.
British Cycling and Team Sky have been dishing out TUE's (Theraputic Use Exemptions) to everyone possible which explains the successes they have had,all the bolox about marginal gains are meaningless it's the doctors who are the important people here. The REALITY is that without PED's it is IMPOSSIBLE to compete because EVERYONE who is an ELITE ATHLETE or aspires to be is 100% on a PED of one kind or another. What Team Sky and British Cycling have done is gone the TUE route because it's more socially acceptable than pushing a Blood Doping and Steroid programme when in reality the Asthma gear is better ![]() The more that comes out into the open the better everyone should stop living in a fairytale world about sport anyone who is anyone at it and have been for 70 years,the records are meaningless and the only drug cheats that have been caught are idiots or scapegoats for their Federations. |
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sky don't like the result of the vote in the Italian election - just described it as 'a mess' - maybe they are upset at the cycling team accusations.
Good old Mee is trying to defend the cycling team as I type and interrupting. (four times at least) How interesting. She says people say things and they are then taken as FACT - that has never stopped Sky twisting the news to suit an agenda - how ironic. Of course sky news is never biased. |
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knighted for his services to cycling
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Anyone with any knowledge whatsoever of the realities of sport KNOWS that EVERYONE who is ANYONE is NOT CLEAN or else they would be a middle of the road nobody.
Our greatest achievers in my lifetime have all been on the gear in one way or another and the M.O is the same as everyone else deny deny deny. Just because we are British we are seen to be above suspicion and we use this with the TUE and Asthma excuse. Look at Paula Radcliffe her Marathon times still beat all of the known dopers (especially those from 3rd world countries who run for their villages to survive) out of sight yet Radcliffe is clean and protests her innocence ![]() .No mention of the massive benefits of the Asthma meds as apparently they have no benefit to anyone without Asthma,if that was the case they wouldn't be banned ffs ![]() ![]() |
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Totally agree with Piers Morgan. In his book Wiggins does not mention once about any problem with asthma. Yet before every big cycling race he needed this drug to treat his asthma. F---ing drug cheat ! Technically he abused the law without actually breaking the rules, but still a flaming cheat, he used the drug to improve his performance !
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Biggest surprise for me so far, listening to Morgan and all the other evidence being reported today, is that wiggins' wife has managed to keep her big mouth shut for once.
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Of course she has because she would have F All if Brad wasn't on the gear deny deny deny
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that SJ newsreader as she likes to be known give an embarrassing grovelling performance for sky whern interviewing an mp,saying it was all hear say and wigginsm skys word should be good enough to clear him,the way she was grilling the mp you,d have thought the mp was the drug cheat
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It's embarrassing but why should we expect anything else,Sky News panders to the clueless who live in a fantasy world with no desire to accept reality for what it is.
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might knock a few quid off share price
put the subscriptions up !!! |
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It is a shame that the journo doesn't take the same critical approach to all the other controversial subjects or the dominance of remain on the show. Amazing scenes. It at least proves there is an agenda from the editors on sky news.
Anyone seen the new pathetic rich/poor show they have started? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0h0DRM6bd4
Roger is s h i tt ing himself early that's adrenaline and fear Roger is talking bolox from start to finish hiding behind the glory days Just because Black never had a positive doesn't mean he wasn't on the anything.They hide behind the 'never failed a drugs test' Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones never failed a test as well as the rest of the dopers as the tests aren't fit for purpose. They don't want to catch anyone due to MONEY and when they do the Federation in question is informed THEN dealt with,some disappear and some are made scapegoats and allowed to stand that's how it is. |
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As I've mentioned before British athletes use the TUE's as an ACCEPTABLE FORM OF CHEATING staying within the rules but taking very potent gear that is banned for a good reason THEY ARE PERFORMANCE ENHANCING AND WORK
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Ms Mee is not very bright and a hopeless interviewer in any circumstances so I wouldn't read too much into her performance.
She needs a TUE to step up to the mark. |
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Plenty of stuff on Youtube from David Millar who was a top cyclist and doper who's taken EPO,Testosterone and the meds that British Cyclists and Uk athletes/swimmers etc are on (legally) according to him they are different gravy.
There was a BBC video which had Millar and Brailsford on where Brailsford claimed he didn't know what EPO was in 2003/2004? these people are very comfortable with tellings lies ![]() |
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Much ado about nothing.
He hasn't acted illegally so why are people talking about stripping him of his titles. BTW a bunch of MPs concluded that he used the system. Debate should have ended at a bunch of MPs concluded. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWZYFL8USqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymyImSZf4xA Some interesting vids about the realities of sport and the Paula Radcliffe stuff is relevant to Wiggins as she was on Asthma meds which is our way of beating the system to have any chance of competing at all and pretend to everyone us British aren't dopers ![]() |
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akabula it's still up in the air whether he was cheating or not as no proof has been put forward.
He's doping legally through TUE'S but the 'jiffy bag' is the issue for everone else. |
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They aint Denzil and you posting the rantings of others as proof is laughable.
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He's using banned substances through TUE's that is what they are doing FACT
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Nonsense. Fact
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If that was bolox they wouldn't need a TUE in the first place
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not sure about the rights or wrongs of this wiggins case but getting rid of the rancid "honours" system altogether would be a good start.
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Fully agree
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Denzil, I think you're right.
A few years ago (late 80's), in the course of my work, I had several meetings in the house of a top British female discus thrower or shot putter, I can't remember which. She was telling me that ALL top athletes were on something or other, because of they didn't they would have no chance of winning. She went on to name a couple of names we all know and some of their nicknames... "Miss steroid", "the fixer", and others. Cycling has always been a drug riddled sport - remember Tommy Simpson in 1967, he was known to be on performance enhancing drugs, but it wasn't against the rules back then. Lance Armstrong? Then there's Weightlifting, most athletics events (East Germany in the 70's and 80's), swimming (Chinese amazing performances for a couple of years only), a lot of state sponsored drugs in sport, particularly from eastern Europe. So many sprinters - Ben Johnson, Linford Christie (he didn't go on about "drug cheats should be banned" much, did he?), Tyson Gay, Justin Gatlin.... This list is JUST athletics cheats who've been banned. Many more haven't. It doesn't include other sports. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics |
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STUDYFORM you've heard it from the horses mouth there would be no reason for that lady to tell you that if it wasn't the case.
Everybody wants to believe that we British don't cheat but common sense should tell everyone otherwise. Those that have been banned are scapegoats because the problems go way back in time and is out of control. Everything we have seen since at least the 1952 Olympics (probably 1948 as well) are not clean results but nobody wants to accept or address this because too much money and too many reputations and lives will be in jeopardy. http://www.kawasaki-m.ac.jp/soc/mw/journal/en/2006-e12-1/01_kremenik.pdf I've got loads of information on the subject of doping in sports and have spent endless hours watching documentaries and fact checking information it's mind blowing until you understand the realities of sport £££££££$$$$$$$ |
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Alan Wells The Flying Scotsman......Yeah Right.
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I watched the Wells documentary about his association with a doping doctor but that was swept under the carpet as jealous accusations by a former team mate
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http://www.kawasaki-m.ac.jp/soc/mw/journal/en/2006-e12-1/01_kremenik.pdf
'At the 1920 Summer Olympics at Antwerp Belguim, another American Charlie Paddock drank sherry with raw eggs before the 100 metres Sprint final, He won the race and got to keep his medal' What, were the toilets located immediately behind the finish line.? ![]() |
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Lunacy
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On a brighter note, asthmatic kids are no longer picked last for a kick-around.
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Isn't the difference with Radcliffe is that she genuinely has asthma?
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Exercise Induced Asthma
"“It depends which respiratory consultant you talk to on whether you put these athletes on a spectrum of asthma, or whether you think that’s purely down to them exercising really hard in a certain environment, and if you take them out of that environment they’re fine. It’s a grey zone. But my argument is it’s a form of asthma.” This is "John Dickinson from Kent university, a world expert on asthma in sport, who has tested all 33 UK-based swimmers from the British Swimming squad found 70% have some form of asthma." So even somebody that is a 'world expert' concedes that it's a grey zone. Go to the 'right' doctor, who would say you 'have asthma' then gives what are performance enhancing drugs. But we're not Russians so it's ok. |
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The slimy Lord Coe is back in the hot seat, he'll no doubt come out of it unscathed.
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Yes Injera that's true but the performance enhancing effects of the particular drugs used remain the same.She technically is using something that will enhance her performance albeit legally under Theraputic Use Exemption and from anecdotal evidence are better than an EPO and Testosterone stack for endurance athletes.
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Correct john92
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Ok Denzil. john's comments interesting...
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saddo the IAAF are completely bent and Coe has no credibility whatsoever as well as a tainted past he'll be walking on eggshells for sure
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