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By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Feb 18 08:23
Its a sorry thing to see an older American man walking across the factory floor
and of course others still there, like myself, not American
Well it was a beautiful place to work
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 16 Feb 18 09:56
Open carry.....
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https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=769&ei=V7iGWtXGBIjeUcfelOAN&q=open+carry+guns&oq=guns+open&gs_l=img.1.1.0i8i30k1l2j0i24k1.5845.13594.0.19214.11.11.0.0.0.0.53.429.9.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..2.9.428.0..0.0.l8SehoqUyps
By:
bix
When: 16 Feb 18 15:50
As usual it's all about the money and in this case how much the NRA bung to those in power.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Feb 18 17:28
The FBI admits it failed to act on a warning about Florida shooter Nikolas Cruz when informed about potentially dangerous behavior.
The warning came from a person close to Cruz on an anonymous FBI tipline warning about his possession of a gun, his disturbing social media posts, and his desire to kill people, according to the FBI.

The tip-off was delivered on January 5, 2018.

The information was not sent to the FBI Miami field office, which the FBI blamed on a failure to act under “established protocols.”

“We are still investigating the facts,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said in a statement. “I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter.”

Wray added that it was the FBI’s job to “act properly and quickly” when informed of troubling behavior by the public.

He expressed “regret” for the additional pain that the information would have for families and friends of those Cruz killed.

“All of the men and women of the FBI are dedicated to keeping the American people safe, and are relentlessly committed to improving all that we do and how we do it.”


FBI not doing its job.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Feb 18 21:51
The city with most murders is Chicago,

http://www.newsweek.com/chicago-homicide-shooting-crime-rate-644460

yet it`s gun control laws are amongst the very toughest,

www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555580598/fact-check-is-chicago-proof-that-gun-laws-don-t-work

but let`s not allow facts and truth have any bearing on a good old leftie knee-jerk virtue-signalling thread, eh, comrades?
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Feb 18 22:05
FBI admitting `we were too slow to follow up leads` re Cruz.
Which translates as `we were too busy trying to frame The Don`.
By:
edy
When: 16 Feb 18 22:05
Maybe you should actually read the links you post in their entirety before submitting them. That goes especially for your npr link, which even directly contradicts what you claim it reports.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Feb 18 22:09
Err, I did, and no it doesn`t
By:
edy
When: 16 Feb 18 22:12
But it's not true that Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country, as other fact checkers have also repeatedly found.

[...]

Quibbling over exactly what part of the U.S. is No. 1 in terms of gun-law strictness, however, isn't the most compelling part of Sanders' statement. She also said that having gun regulations "certainly hasn't helped" in Chicago.

That's a much more controversial claim — and it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

State lines don't stop guns

It's important to remember here that Chicago is very close to two states that have relatively weak gun laws: Wisconsin and Indiana. So while it's easy to pick on Chicago (or any other high-crime city) for its ugly statistics, says one expert, taking bordering states into account weakens this gun-advocacy talking point.

"It's not a scientific study. It's an anecdote," said Philip Cook, a professor of public policy studies at Duke University. "They might have pointed to Washington, D.C., back in the days when D.C. banned handguns and yet had high gun-violence rates. Those bans are only at best partially effective, because the borders are permeable."

D.C. borders Virginia, which does not have strong gun laws. (It gets a D from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.)

Neither Wisconsin nor Indiana requires licenses or permits to purchase a gun, for example, nor do they require waiting periods. While Illinois has that B+ rating from the law center, Wisconsin has a C- and Indiana a D-.

And there's good evidence that being next-door to those states keeps Chicago criminals well-supplied with guns. A 2015 study of guns in Chicago, co-authored by Cook, found that more than 60 percent of new guns used in Chicago gang-related crimes and 31.6 percent used in non-gang-related crimes between 2009 and 2013 were bought in other states. Indiana was a particularly heavy supplier, providing nearly one-third of the gang guns and nearly one-fifth of the non-gang guns.

[...]

All of this might suggest that criminals will just go to whatever lengths necessary get their hands on guns, regardless of whatever laws are in place.

But that's the wrong way to think about it, Cook said.

"No one's in a position to say that Chicago's various special regulations and Illinois's regulations are doing no good," he said, "because we don't know what the homicide rate would be in the absence of those.


taken directly from your link. You're welcome.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Feb 18 22:17
As we can all see, no contradiction at all, stop deflecting.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 16 Feb 18 22:20
Illinkis does have some of the tighter regulations, fwiw. Not sure if Chicago has it's own rules.

https://www.inverse.com/article/37141-state-gun-law-maps
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 16 Feb 18 22:21
Erm, Illinois.
By:
gilbzy
When: 16 Feb 18 22:43
Wait till a black guy decides to waste a high school, then maybe the Trumpkins will think again on gun control..
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