^ how  would a gun save you from a serial killer.
this was a 19 year old with a grudge who had access to as many guns as he wanted.
This is Trump's chance to be somebody but he has already gone down the mental health route
forgetting that they blocked the checks that would stop such people having guns. It's just tragic
on so many levels

The Mental health Route is very popular these days ...

no didn't notice it. maybe not the time or place for it tho m8 although it rings true as does a later line
Got a man of the people, says keep hope alive their country is in the hands of snake oil sellers

Used to be that nothing was sacred on chit chat. Tis now a largely humourless place.

A 19 year old with mental health issues owns an assault rifle and that's perfectly acceptable, Jesus wept. All those poor innocents slaughtered, absolutely heartbreaking.

What has changed in the last couple of decades ?, it is the overwhelming culture of violence in video games and films and in particular the greatest force for evil, the internet
Countries are going to have to look at banning these things and to have strict censorship of the internet

I use a forum on a US trading cards website. Got into a debate earlier and I said something along the lines of 'I'm fairly certain my girls will come home from school today unharmed.' Some Yank has replied that he is similarly confident that his kids will come home safely too. To support his argument? "There have been less than 300 school shootings since 2013."

The mind boggles.

very few people want to ban guns in the US. What they want is background checks on owners & certain types
of weapons (assault weapons, clue is in the name) restricted and in some cases banned. These are weapons
of war, no need to own one as a civilian.

Said before and I'll say again when the constitution was written weapons were single shot. If they were the same today it wouldn't stop the nutters but it would help reduce the large numbers of fatalities

Maybe the mass shootings are not enough in terms of number of deaths, ie; in this case only 17 - what if two or three nutters got together and killed about a thousand people. Would they change the gun laws then. Probably not.
I've been to the states but I wont be going back. Found the place intimidating from the moment I got off the plane. Just getting through customs was enough to put you off.

US customs have to complete a rudeness course ! 100% pass rate !

Had a run-in with the tnucs at Newark airport last year. Was genuinely concerned they'd put me on a flight back here or would've carried on. All because of one ignorant cow who hadn't been doing her job properly in the first place. Half expected her to say I'd used a racial slur against her. Would've shot her in the face had I been able to get to a Walgreens!

As crystal says, they're completely humourless.

^^ they do seem to make a point of being rude and aggressive. At Houston they took my 8 year old son aside,
which was fair enough, they wanted to check i wasn't taking him away from his mum without her knowing, but
they barked at him to the point he went mute.
They then pulled me over and said he was clearly traumatised,
obviously i said "yeah by you, try being nice" reply was a threatening "are you telling me how to do my job"
i thought f**k it & said "well clearly nobody else ever did." 
Big mistake, once they went through all our papers etc we got out of there 2 hours later.
Not my only run in with USCIS (as they now call themselves) either.
Americans are normally so polite too

if your male go by youself

never go to via Newark airport

I was stopped searched by a 20 year with semi automatic

looked trigger happy

Do USCIS do immigration in Dublin? Didn't know that. I spent a couple of years in the Bahamas and US immigration
was in Nassau before you left. Obviously that is a lot closer tho

the police went to this kids house about him 39 times over 4 years & he still got his hands on these weapons legally???

treat them with respect as you would when visiting any other country and you wont have any problems
I worked there , industry and factory work, and after a couple of weeks I felt  that something was different and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was, and then I suddenly realised what it was
The people were nicer, nicer than the British and the Irish indeed

The gun laws are madness in the modern world simply because there is such an epidemic, throughout the world, of mental illness

Lfc talking sh1te as usual. The only American posting on this thread has said they have to go on a rudeness course before getting the gig. Now he was joking (a little) but many a true word spoken in jest etc.

:) the phrase always stated with me, he was` a nice guy