Merkel's 'Lego' comes to York, Edinburgh...

diversity walls and trucks of peace  merkel's leggo   that is so funny and so sad

Are they covering the concrete blocks of Lego in special Winterval wrapping paper to create the illusion that there isn't really a threat?

In the Fatherland certainly! Not so much here. Diversity loons fear the wrapping paper may be too Christmassy and incite hatred..

Link has been removed, how frightened of the truth some people are.

much more of this to come as control is tightened on any thing you say about peace

saddo - simply staggering. Nothing offensive. Merely witty and terribly sad. 'Diversity walls' is brilliant given the Bishop of Liverpool's absurd attack on Trump's Christian supporters.

'Bishop Bayes told the newspaper: "Some of the things that have been said by religious leaders seem to collude with a system that marginalises the poor, a system which builds walls instead of bridges'.

I did enjoy the wall irony, trump is wrong to build walls but europe builds them around market places weekly.

Dec 28, 2017 -- 2:57PM, Injera wrote:

saddo - simply staggering. Nothing offensive. Merely witty and terribly sad. 'Diversity walls' is brilliant given the Bishop of Liverpool's absurd attack on Trump's Christian supporters.'Bishop Bayes told the newspaper: "Some of the things that have been said by religious leaders seem to collude with a system that marginalises the poor, a system which builds walls instead of bridges'.

Should Christians really feverishly throw their support behind an ultra braggadacious, multiple times divorced adulterer, serial liar? But hey, he brought back Christmas because the Obamas never wished anyone a Merry Christmas. Or so he claimed in his ever braggadacious, lying ways.

All Christians are called to pray for those who govern us.

Trump is the POTUS. Many Christians are right to offer him support. He is seeking to protect the States by maintaining strong borders. Unlike Clinton and Obama he believes in the unborn's right to life.

Such views helped him to win the election and I wish him well despite his many imperfections.

That sounds very subordinate. No wonder people in Europe suffered so much from being fettered by rulers all throughout Christianity until we finally started freeing us from it.

Ok, Ok, I'll bite one more time.

Name me 6 countries untouched by Christianity that you would be happy to raise a family in.

Is there even one country completely untouched by Christianity? Like, we Christians taught the entire world how to hate gay people and jews. So no, I could not name 6 countries untouched by Christianity that I would be happy to raise a family in.

Can you name 6 countries untouched by Enlightenment and liberalism that you would be happy to raise a family in?

'cuz, kind of without Enlightenment and liberalism our countries would be Christian Saudi-Arabia (on drugs)

Highly oppressive, demanding prayer and unquestioning subordination to our rulers, death for apostasy, death for being gay, death for being a woman that loves herself some herbs, threat of death for going against what the church dictates you to think, women generally treated like trash.

Man, Christianity sure rocked hard before brave people of the past began the process of freeing us and reducing its power and influence. An environment that is every man's dream to raise a family in.

You can't have the enlightenment without Christianity , theyarw the same thing, direct descendants

Christianity and its early leaders, and Christ himself can trace their ideas and view of humanity directly back to Ancient Greece and forward to the European enlightenment , especially in Britain

True, you could not have had Enlightenment without people being fed up with aspects of Christianity and the powerful (like them telling their underlings that they were chosen directly by God and that you should pray for them)

Well that's if you assume that people believed that kings were directly appointed by god
I suppose many did , many people believe in letting a few people in the House of Parliament decide their future
And done others don't , that is neither here nor there
Christianity puts the individual responsible for his own freedoms , if allows  the individual to decide in everything and on everything that is what is so different about Christianity and some other religions.
In other religions people are not thought of in the same way , and in politics also , in communism of Nazism people are not so fully human as in enlightened Christian countries and forms of government

You see even in Ancient Greece they had their gods and their great generals and their great people , that's natural

To believe in a God does not mean you cannot also believe in the enlightenment,
In the enlightenment you look at what the teacher of that religion says and how he lives
So it depends , look at the life of Christ , and what he taught, and look at the life of other religious leaders , such as Muhammad and what he taught, it depends on the religion
And then you might see the connection between Christianity and the enlightenment

The Enlightenment was 200 years of efforts to understand God through reason.

When René Descartes announced that he thought, therefore he was, it was to emphasize that he was a product of God. What else could something as perfect and unchanging as rational thought be than a manifestation of God, l'immuable, l'infini, l'éternel, le tout connaissant, le tout puissant?

The loss of belief in God, loss of faith in the power of reason, the challenge of an evolving, fluid world, wasn't confronted for another 200 years, with Schopenhauer and Nietzsche. A reaction against the Enlightenment, in other words.

Say what you will Christ never forced anyone to follow his teachings , that is enlightened and enlightening even in itself .unlike some religious leaders who lived a different life of murder and torture and all manner of evil things ..
Now you can safely say that is not enlightened

And Nietzchenian thought could be said to have led directly to Hitler

lfc1971 • December 29, 2017 1:42 PM GMT
Say what you will Christ never forced anyone to follow his teachings

True. Too bad his followers weren't so kind as they kept terrorising others, destroyed the cultural achievement of others, and forced conversion (or conformism) by the sword throughout history.

ha ha  another defender of the faith of peace  - I bring you edy - obfuscating and muddying the waters

hey by the way - most of the garbage you come out with happened so long ago and very, very few follow any old testament for starters

hope this helps

we face a very real danger and people like you come on here trying to confuse the issue

You could try being sober and understanding a post for a change instead of just making up things, mobbo.

edy, what are you doing?

he tries to deflect us away from the problem - a denier in fact

Did you hear about the German 15 year old lass who got stabbed to death by her afghan boyfriend refugee posing as a child imigrant?

I read of it on DWelle last night.

You know, that bastion of German society ... or so I used to think :(

I see a few more christians have been wiped out in egypt

Of course I heard about it. It's all over the news.

mobbo, I made my concerns pretty clear about strong religiousness being detrimental to a society. That we blossomed because we freed ourselves to a good degree. Only your ever drunken state could make a defense of Islam out of it.

Enjoy your lego and your diversity walls.

edy I look forward to your condemnation of the peaceful ones.

Can you repost that video please? I'd like to watch it.

https://youtu.be/6-tPTdm6xd4

thanks

edy

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You spend much time here.  Why?  Before you ask, my bird's German

That's the second time you bring up my post count out of absolute nowhere. Care to enlighten us about its relevance in this, or the other, discussion? I don't quite see it I gotta say. If you are so desperate for an explanation however: The chatty interface of the forum lends itself to a lot of posting at times. Even more so when your main interest is exciting sports like tennis that is on all year and has a lot happening all the time. That thrilling Wimbledon match between Isner and Mahut alone is responsible for about 10% of my post count.

On the video: The focus on Merkel is a bit weird I gotta say. Not only is the UK's % of citizens born outside the EU still higher than that of Germany, but the people that came to Germany in 2015 aren't even eligible to just move or travel to the UK. In all reality the blocs of concrete on the British Isles should be called Tory Post WWII Government Lego or Great Reminder of the Fantastic British Colonial Past Lego.

In general, instead of the misplaced polemics, the video would've done well to concentrate on pointing out how important it is in our fight against islamistic terror to secularise and help our brothers free themselves from islam like we have done from Christianity.

Wow, do your trip bruv

^ you jerk

edy - what steps do you think the UK should take to  'free themselves from islam'?

That's quite a statment btw. I haven't even heard Farage say that. Nick Griffin yes.

With higher up oppressive elitists like God it's ok, but using that term on fellow humans isn't very nice.

I mentioned it in my post, Injera. Thorough secularisation. That includes that ban of religious school, Christian and Islam alike, to save our children from being indoctrinated in them.

It isn't JUST the islamic terrorism you need to be concerned about. It is where it initially originates from and why. ho ho

edy, are you into AC/DC?  Original wi Bon Scott?

I don't think we should worry about helping the Muslims , it's too much trouble
If edy wants to help them he can go to a Muslim country , don't invite them here and expect someone else to help them
That's rude

You could specifically promote modern mosques like that of the German-Turkish female iman and lawyer in Berlin. Of course that's met with strong resistance from the religious hardliners just like similar things were met with resistance within Christianity, but as you can see, eventually it is bound to be successful. It just takes time.

I would promote Ahhmadyism ahead of any and all other expressions of Islam.

Such a policy would see me banned from public life of course but they're a peaceful lot and we could then live without lego.

Ah, I don't see the point in inviting millions of Muslims into the country and then attempt to try and change them, even if that is possible
No i must say that seems like a very difficult thing to attempt and I must admit I like comfort
No the most sensible thing would be not to allow Muslims into the country in the first place

Edy might be one of those types of people who feels compelled to fulfill duties, so much so that he plunges himself and perhaps others over great cliff edges

And they end up doing disagreeable duties simply because they are afraid some duty
That's a dangerous mistake

i would not like to live in Berlin , or anywhere in Germany if it is going to be so much trouble

The Irish were pretty much the same as ourselves , and they were Christians
So that was a good start right there

You see it was quite simple , they were like us , they believed in the same things as us , you must not come to the hard conclusion that every country is barbaric and wicked just because it isn't England
But then again some are
Don't mistake one from the other

We just need to make sure to emphasize that their children should be allowed to wear Disney Princess dresses instead of allowing their terribly conservative parents to raise them in a world where you're only a man if you're a stupid violent arse that's always on about some stupid manly pride and honour.

I'm sorry I draw a firm line against inviting millions of Muslims into a country ...and then trying to convert them
I don't think I have ever heard of anything quite so idiotic

and make them read Kästner instead of Blyton too of course.

Well I suppose anythings possible

Real Christians and Catholics being anywhere close to the same. Good one!

I can remember the dear old pirates grabbing irish citizens - I wonder who used to do that.  Sorry.  Diversion.
This grenache rose is going down rather well.

ps  Hint !!!  It is a bit too late for all that now edy. The demographic is dead against it anyway.

pps
the mainstream peaceful muslim community don't even want to use referrals to Prevent.

It will be a long journey with your idea - by then they will have hegemony - with help from their friends

It's far from too late. The vast majority is already well integrated and secularised. But obviously there is still work to do.

The muslim world in general is being americanised/westernised/secularised. Currently there is a bit of a hiccup, a last hooray so to speak, of the terrible religious people, but there is no stopping or reversing the general trend, even with Bannon attempting to seduce Trump into the USA giving up its role of the global benevolent leader. Even Saudi-Arabia is opening slowly but surely.

You see people don't change unless they are forced to change or want to change
How is this done ? Well there are different ways
The best way is not to allow them into your country , that's what happened in west and east Germany
The East Germans eventually were forced to change , because  they could hear the music from the other side of the wall
And they were not aliwwd in
So eventually and without any trouble whatever to the Germans in the west
They changed
That is the best and least dangerous and less troublesome way of doing things
If people are capable of becoming civilised they will , but only if you make it clear that they can't come in unless they realise that

East Germans were readily allowed into West Germany. Being granted automatic citizenship, pension as if they had worked all their lives in the FRG etc.

...the GDR just didn't let people out during working age.

Pure islamist propaganda or delusions or both.

don't be silly edy, they were shot when they tried to come to the west

Yes, as I said in my last sentence the GDR didn't allow people to leave while still in a working age.

Germans are in some ways surprisingly incompetent
Duty is very high on their list , I think we can see this with edy
That's not a bad thing, certainly not
But the German people seem incapable of distinguishing a good duty from a bad duty
Well we have seen where that has got them throughout their history
I think they're fu@king up again

Oh no.  It all makes sense. With a supine self serving commission behind them, merkel can lead a rejuvenated Germany to continue eastwards.

Well we have seen where that has got them throughout their history

most beloved, most liked, most adored, most productive, most exporting and most importantly: 2nd best footballing nation of the world?

Good luck with future productivity..

Astonishing statistics revealed that only 1 in every 10,000 refugees who arrived during the massive migrant influx last year are now employed.

German firms have defended themselves after Angela Merkel blamed them for not hiring enough refugees.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/710927/million-migrants-Germany-unemployed-Merkel-open-door-policy

Yeah, German laws make the job market terribly inaccessible for refugees. Can you believe that tolerated refugees are not given access to language and integration courses?

The situation is getting better than stated in your terribly outdated link. Integration and training needs some time.

Do they make mugs?

https://www.ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f

it seems someone in germany disagrees with the eu hugging edy

I don't think there's a big market and production facilities for large cups, typically cylindrical with a handle and used without a saucer, in Germany. They'll usually be made abroad and then imported.

Do you make mugs, mobbo?

Does Aydan Özoğuz from your link disagree with me? I said integration and training needs time, she said integration and training needs time. Seems compatible to me.

then slowly the take over can continue

Of course what intrigues me is what turkey's role will be in all this.

They'll never celebrate Christmas.