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APOLLO 17 A FAKE?
APOLLO 17 A FAKE?
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We can separate this question into three parts.
Firstly, did we walk on the moon? Secondly, were the photographs and footage of the landings all genuine? Thirdly, should we accept everything issued by NASA as the truth? If you can answer yes to them all, then God bless you. |
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For Crippen and McCann
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/22/self-taught-rocket -scientist-plans-launch-to-test-flat-earth-theory |
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I would have thought that would be more quicky accepted by the likes of you dave, with the readiness you display to believe anyything you are told.
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Mr.McCann to you dave,
do you believe Oswald acted alone, a yes or no will do  |
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Here's another very persuasive video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR2WTK20Ig From his experience as a professional photograph Marcus Allen points the lens at NASA's photographic record of what is stated as being Mankinds greatest achievement - Landing a man on the Moon and returning him to Earth. A feat undertaken by the U.S. military between 1969 - 1972. Marcus demonstrates a plethora of problems with the photographic record that indicates only that the record is falsely being promoted as the authentic record of that historic period of the US Space flight history. Marcus Allen presented "The Apollo Moon Landings" at the 5th British Exopolitics Expo held at the University of Huddersfield on September 28th 2013. |
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i thought exopolitics expo was a bunch of ufo theorists, doubtless fertile ground for this stuff.
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Oswald acting alone and being the lone gunman aren't the same thing.
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And btw the utter idiocy of believing that a moon landing was faked several times is in an entirely different league to being uncertain about the details surrounding JFK's death. Though some of the theories around that are obviously just as idiotic.
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It's difficult for a fair minded to get past the refusals of those concerned to swear on oath, let alone the evidence presented in such a detailed and clinical manner as that contained in the last video I supplied.
Yet if you simply take the evidence of Marcus Allen, as a photographer familiar with the camera equipment available at the time, then the argument that the photographs are fakes is overwhelming. It takes a giant leap in faith for anyone to dismiss evidence as compelling as that. Or of course pig-headedness. |
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I would concede that SOME of the moon landing conspiracy theories on here are interesting and, as I'm certainly no expert, wouldn't belittle those who like to question the accepted chain of events. For me, though, the many scientists who regularly bounce LASERS off the reflecting mirrors left by Apollo 11 is proof positive that man walked on the moon.
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There is a video on YouTube of Professor Brian Cox (and another scientist) sending and receiving data to and from those reflecting mirrors. It was more than enough to convince me.
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They measured the distance to the moon within centimetres!
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ah but were the photos faked torky?
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I don't know. I wouldn't be too surprised if some were faked for whatever purpose, but I still believe man went to the moon.
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How do the know that what they're bouncing off was left by Apollo 11?
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The reason I have sympathy with the conspiracy theorists is because the feat itself is so bloody incredible, nothing in the history of mankind comes even remotely close to what those people achieved nearly fifty years ago. It really does seem to be in the realms of science fiction, simply awesome. I can understand why some don't believe it.
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They must have been left by somebody Dr C, presumably the alignment was pretty important?
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It that the same Brian Cox that produced the NASA 'adjusted' global temperature chart in his attempt to 'prove' global warming was man made?
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No idea about that, IT.
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Dr C
I've watched half-an-hour so far and will watch it all. Is their any particular thing which you would say that proves they didn't land? I've seen nothing so far apart from conjecture. |
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The problem with Brian Cox is he appears incapable of admitting there are somethings that current public domain science simply cannot explain.
Take this article for instance where he claims Ghosts do not exist: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/ghosts-brian-cox-large-hadron-collider-cern-real-truth-standard-model-physics-a7598026.html It is arrogant beyond believe to suggest because something cannot be found using current tech on the dimensions we know about that ghosts on not exist. Ask anyone who has died and come back and they will tell you this Cox guy is totally and utterly clueless. |
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I assume that was a joke post IS? Otherwise you have a problem.
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Is there any evidence that it was faked , any at all ?
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Dr C
I've watched half-an-hour so far and will watch it all. Is their any particular thing which you would say that proves they didn't land? I've seen nothing so far apart from conjecture. False photographic evidence is not evidence that they didn't land. It's only evidence that the photography isn't genuine. He examines a steady stream of inconsistencies in the photography one after another throughout the first hour. |
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It seems only common sense to me that there would have been so many possible mistakes and potential screw ups that it would have come to light by now .
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Sorry not IS but IT.
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the very same I.T, BIG BUCKS TO SOME IS THIS GLOBAL WARMING LARK TO SOME
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If anyone watches that video by Marcus Allen that I supplied a link for, with an open mind, they'll have a hard time believing that the photographs are genuine.
By the way he dismisses the issue of the fluttering flag pounced on by many. He says there are no videos with a fluttering flag. They weren't that daft. |
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I don't believe that anyone would have the nerve to try fake such a thing , or the ability to do so.
It seems impossible. |
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I mean who in their right mind would do that in the first instance..and then get away with it ?
No it's too impossible. |
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nobody would sink that low ifc
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It seems only common sense to me that there would have been so many possible mistakes and potential screw ups that it would have come to light by now .
Addressing that, we see a similar situation now with global warming. Who amongst the scientists who appear to agree with the idea but don't. Is prepared to risk their jobs by speaking out. People like Cox and co will always toe the official line they are being fed. There is also the official secrets act, I'm sure the Americans have something similar. |
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Allen has estimated that only 30-40 people needed to know what was really going on.
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Marcus Allen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Allen_(publisher)
Marcus Allen is the British distributor and publisher of Nexus, a bi-monthly alternative news magazine.[1] His publication offers "news and information that is overlooked, unreported or ignored by the mainstream media."[2] He worked as a photographer in London in the 1960s, and is a proponent of the idea that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings. Allens' hoax theories have been shown to be based on his poor understanding of physics, jumping to unsupported conclusions, misrepresentation or outright lies by Allen. His theories are debunked, point-by-point, by numerous critics over many years.[3] Check him out further and more rubbish from him. |
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ah the mainstream media charlie
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tm are you saying only believe non mainstream media? E.g. people with personal agendas?
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nope Charlie but there is an awful lot they wont touch,some stuff is just too hot
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