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By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 22:58
"meh...ok" sounds like an expression of mild reservation by the child, akabula, doesn't it?
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 22:59
let's not drift too much and allow lfc to explain why it would be so dangerous, ok?
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 17 23:00
Well you don't seem to be listening .
Where have I said that I am against homosexuality?
I am not .
What I am saying is that it is very dangerous to teach certain things and primary school ,
we have to be very cautious , we don't make young people kind by that sort of nonsense
They have to have a school when they are young that concentrates on learning maths and English etc and at the same time is a kind and good environment.
That is what gives young people a chance.
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:06
Just the other day you told me education isn't important, that nobody really needs schools and especially school funding is vastly overrated.

Let's not focus on that little detail too much though. What makes it dangerous to teach small children that it's ok if Sue&Sarah hold hands? Are they gonna explode or something? In what way would something so simple ruin their little souls?
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:07
In what way would it turn school into an unsafe environment?
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:14
and don't you say it takes too much time away from maths and English. It's not going to be its own subject with hours and hours of lessons. It's going to be incorporated into books and stuff. Children are going to learn acceptance of homosexuality and reading at the same time! How awesome is that, buddy?
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:15
That's what I call efficiency, dude. Not just kids wasting their vital time by reading nonsense stories about completely irrelevant things. No no, learning multiple vital skills simultaneously.
By:
saddo
When: 30 Oct 17 23:16
You think everyone who is forced to accept it will actually embrace it edy?
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Oct 17 23:25
Peter Thatchel and His cronies will be delighted
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 17 23:26
edy I never said anything like that about education, I said that education plays a surprisingly small part in the economic wellbeing of a nation ,
I said that the vast majority of universities should  be closed down , ok I was joking , but only a little.
I do think that nearly all should be closed down
Ok these are totally irrelevant , we are not talking about making our young people better or kinder by preaching liberal dogma , it won't work ,
The school and its teachers and it pupils be the book.
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:27
No, there are other factors at play, saddo. Children are pure. There is no automatic dislike of homosexuality in them. At some point most are trained and manipulated by adults to believe stupid ****, form stereotypes, dislikes, in some cases still, thankfully they're getting rarer and rarer, outright hatred.

In that way I find it problematic to speak of "forcing to accept" homosexuality. Accepting homosexuality is the default state of mind in a child. The "forcing" label, I'd call it ruining a pure soul myself, would be much better suited for a child developing a dislike or reservation towards it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 17 23:28
you cannot preach this thing if you want goodness and kindness
The school itself and teachers and pupils must be the book .
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:29
though they don't see it as homosexuality obviously. They just see it as two adult mates holding hands (until some adult comes in and tells them it's wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong)
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:33
You still haven't answered why it's very dangerous, lfc. If you don't know the answer, just say so instead of blabbering around.
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Oct 17 23:38
Can you Imagine a Little girl being adopted by two men ,shirley the Lack of a Vag in sight must be Confusing ??

Really cannot understand how same same sex couples are allowed to Adopt ,Little kids must be totally confused ?

Fostering Older children say 7 plus I can understand and the Kid might have a better Idea WTF is going on ..

What about they are teaching Kids and some of the 7 year olds say NO thats wrong I dont want to marry a man

Men and Womaen should marry ,What happens Then ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 17 23:42
I don't trust the abilities or the aims or the judgement or the care or the kindness or the goodness ...
if the people who would be teaching at that young age .
I don't believe that they are qualified to do so beyond teaching maths or English etc
I do not want these people to start indoctrinating anyone with their beliefs or ideas
That is why I think it is dangerous.
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 17 23:44
I don't trust the type of people they are, rhey would be prepared to follow any dogma  if it suited their overall beliefs ...well I don't trust their overall beliefs , it's that simple.
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:45
Why not?
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Oct 17 23:45
Spot On
By:
akabula
When: 30 Oct 17 23:46
I think it's dangerous too.
Teaching this and all the different gender categories is a step too far.
The norm ,is that we have 2 sexes, male and female, and they get married and have children.
Being gay or having a sexuality other than male or female is complicating things for kids.
Anything out of the norm should be learned through life experiences in the same manner that has served us for hundreds of years.
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:46
Also, do I understand you correctly that if they left out the other stuff of their supposed dogma and only have 'The Sissy Duckling' and similar works that would not be dangerous in your mind?
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:48
Or is that in itself also already very dangerous, lfc. If so, why? Clear answer please instead of blabbering around and evading the real question like you tend to do.
By:
edy
When: 30 Oct 17 23:50
Shouldn't you welcome the overall liberal dogma of creating washed up, soft sissy snowflakes anyway? It wasn't for the first time that you complained about violence today.
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Oct 17 23:53
Is there any  Need to let 5 year olds Know that is ok to Marry a person of the Opposite Sex ?? Cant remember anyone telling me that at School ,So why bring any marriage up Yet alone Gay marriage ,absolutely no Need for it ,Or is there problems arising by Same sex Couples turning up to pick their Children up ...
By:
pxb
When: 31 Oct 17 02:16
I can understand why some people see this as part of a Marxist plan to bring down Western civilization.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 31 Oct 17 07:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aUqr7-Cgt8&index=36&list=LLb1e00RIqs_NyG1ZNfNSFiA
By:
edy
When: 31 Oct 17 08:51
It is quite the opposite, pxb. Broad acceptance of homosexuality is a key to our future success. Not only does it allow us to use their talent (imagine Alan Turing not being driven towards suicide by how the country treated him), there are other positive things too.

Just recently it was rightly pointed out by Injera that there are far too many people around. Now imagine people broadly being allowed to live happily ever after in same sex marriages instead of being forced into unhappy opposite sex marriages with five kids by societal pressure. Problem solved, partly at least. Another very important part of controlling population numbers would be contraception and abortion.

With that in mind, today we all celebrate 500 years of the Martin Luther starting the protestant revolution that paved the way for freeing ourselves and living out Christianity between ourselves and God, without the need for a corrupt church. We have a lot to the thankful to the German.
By:
pxb
When: 31 Oct 17 09:24
Homosexuality is something of an evolutionary puzzle. On the face of it, it should be eliminated from the gene pool in one generation, but it persists.

Probably the reason is in our tribal and even more distant past, where homosexuality meant beta males didn't get into conflict with breeding, usually first born, alpha males.

However, advocating homosexuality is promoting societal suicide, as by definition same sex couples can't produce offspring, and thus are eliminated from the gene pool.

And for this reason, quite a few people people think this and other Leftist silliness is in fact a good thing.
By:
lfc1971
When: 31 Oct 17 09:39
You have to have difference to be creative , it is a balance between a good and well ordered society and individual rights and freedoms. After all Alan Turing lived in the 40s and 50s , in England
That is the society that produced him , who are we producing now ?
I don't know .
By:
lfc1971
When: 31 Oct 17 09:45
You have to understand why are men creative , it is because of the subconscious need to attract women and have sex and reproduce ,
This is the unseen driving force behind men , even men such as Turing  because the same much older genetic imprint is there with everyone.
So the balance has to be there .
By:
lfc1971
When: 31 Oct 17 09:52
edy mentions abortion , well it shows the warped values of the liberal mindset if it should think that over 6 million abortions in Britain since it was legalised in the 60s is some form of progress .
It might be seen as something shocking and worse by people liking back in the future in these 'liberal' values.
By:
lfc1971
When: 31 Oct 17 10:00
Van Gogh understood this link between creativity and sex, he would stop visiting prostitutes for a period of time to allow him to be  more creative , he mentioned this in one of his letters .

But of course he may have taken things too far and it sent him mad : )
By:
Get me a drink
When: 31 Oct 17 10:04
This kind of thing always has unintended and unforeseen consequences, some of which are detrimental to the very people you're trying to protect.

e.g. you are highlighting this particular difference between people, and kids tend to pick on differences in other kids. They could be picked on for having red hair, certain disabilities, speech impediments, etc.

I guess what I'm saying is you could be setting kids affected by homosexual relationships up for being bullied by highlighting the issue, and then how do you then deal with the kids doing the bullying? Harsh punishment? What psychological effect will that have on that child? And eventually on society as a whole?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 31 Oct 17 10:10
An estimated one-quarter of all black swans pairings are of homosexual males. They steal nests, or form temporary threesomes with females to obtain eggs, driving away the female after she lays the eggs.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 31 Oct 17 10:12
I'm not quite sure how Mrs May's policy is going to work in Muslim Faith schools.  Shocked
By:
Get me a drink
When: 31 Oct 17 10:21
These kinds of things shall not apply to the peace loving ones, since it would displease them greatly.
By:
Crisp77
When: 31 Oct 17 10:22
It would be good to hear about gay marriage. I wonder if it is give and take like heterosexual marriage?
By:
Get me a drink
When: 31 Oct 17 10:45
Crisp. Laugh
By:
Platini
When: 31 Oct 17 14:51
Bonkers policy but would not surprise me the way things are going.

what I'm looking forward to seeing is exactly how they'll enforce it with the muzzles. I've got my popcorn at the ready to see that one play out LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 31 Oct 17 15:56
"Parents who object to primary school age children being taught about homosexual relationships, including same-sex marriage, or transsexualism will not be allowed to withdraw their children from class under current legislation".


Unless they are Muslim!
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