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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/920224641444143104
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It would be interesting to know how many Grauniad readers will have to survive old age on nothing more than the basic government pension. Not very many would be my guess.
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Virtually no one retired at the moment has the "basic government pension". Self employed who retired before 2015 would be the only significant group.
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Nit picking again dave? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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No, just pointing out that not many non-guardian readers have to live on the "basic government pension" ie your post is silly.
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My wife's mum lives on the basic state pension - £156 per week I think (might be a pound or two out).
And, because she gets zero pension credit, she has to pay £116 a month council tax on top of all the other bills. Had she not paid all her dues into the system she would be eligible for PC and get all or some of her CT paid as well. The welfare system is broken, people are punished for working hard and playing it straight, whilst others are rewarded for being feckless, fraudulent or workshy. |
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When did she retire?
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dead right torque,when they were convincing us to pay up on NI or we wouldnt get full pension they forgot to mention that if we didnt theyd make it up with a few extras & more.if you're not wealthy you may as well have **** all then the govt will look after you.
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The government doesn't need to "convince" you to pay NI, or any other tax.
btw I suspect talkmadder has invented his mother in law's situation, just have a rant about people on benefits. |
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Poor old Dave!
 After saying a few days ago that he doesn't enter into conversation with me, he now asks me a question and then resorts to his usual abuse and childish name-calling when I didn't reply! As if I'd bother to make something up as mundane and easily verifiable as that! |
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Does one get extra danger money for going up the scaffold.?
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PT Credits are incredible. Did you know you can claim travel expenses to visit a relative in JAIL?! Also taxi fares to visit a relative in hospital.
I know of a pensioner who OWNS her house but is eligible for PTCs. Her boiler broke doen and it needed replacing. Did she a) ask friends/family for help? b) sell the house to generate cashflow to pay for such things or c) ask the council to pay for it. |
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my dad got a free boiler when mam was poorly and he was looking after her
old boiler was more or less condemned i think it was government scheme though through his energy supplier |
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he kept waiting to be told it was a con and he would have to pay 10grand or the like
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think it was this...
https://www.npower.com/home/energy-efficiency/ecoscheme/free-boiler/ |
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£3 Billion Pension Credits actually go unclaimed.
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I suspect talkmadder's mother in law isn't one of the non-claimers
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many old folk are ashamed to ask for the credits,
peoples attitudes does not help this they sit home starving and cold, but still manage to support their kids when required |
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The government doesn't need to "convince" you to pay NI, or any other tax
they do if you're self employed dave 1357 but i suspect thats never entered your little head you condescending *****,what are you teacher or local govt ? |
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see my first post in this thread, I am perfectly aware of the status of self employed. The "voluntary" issue only applies to very low earners making £3 a week class 2 self employed contributions (which if you don't have a full 35 year record are the bargain of the century). They are such good value the government is abolishing them. Class 4 contributions aren't voluntary if eligible to pay them.
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and getting back to talkmadder's mother in law. He refuses to answer a simple question. However, I can say that state pension entitlements are quite complex with varying amounts being paid, but pension credit topped up income to errr £156 a week in 2016/17 year.
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You haven't answered BARROWBOY's simple question either tbf dave.
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I thought that was rhetorical, part of the insult that started "never entered your little head you condescending *****"
but if you want to know I have never worked for any government or local government entity. |
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If you are self employed the amount of tax you pay is voluntary , that is a very good thing,
Don't pay it if possible. |
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Refused to answer?
I have done no such thing, it was just so amusing to see somebody who claimed never to enter into conversation with me hang on my every word! |
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It is hilarious how many of the lefties on here have claimed to have blocked me, or vowed to ignore me, or report my posts on speed dial. The reality is, of course, I am their puppet master - one little twitch of the string and they get all fidgety and can't resist replying.
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The BLOCK button is right next to the REPORT button at the bottom right of every one of my posts. Hilarious how certain users are addicted to pressing one yet find it impossible to press the other!
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So as usual when talkmadder is challenged he gets posts deleted.
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Gets posts deleted? Not guilty your honour. I hate it when lefty rants get deleted, it leaves my witty replies stranded in mid thread. I never even saw another post after my previous one, Dave. Was it one of yours? What did it say?
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If anyone else saw it BTW let me know the gist of it please - leaving out any abusive language of course - I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble!
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I'll check back this evening.
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Place your bets.
A) a hissy fit tantrum. B) a rant. C) a tirade of abuse. D) all of the above. The odds on D are quite short! |
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dave1357
and getting back to talkmadder's mother in law. He refuses to answer a simple question Why would anyone who you have been abusive to and called a liar respond to you? |
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where have I been abusive? where have I called him a liar? I simply said "when did she retire?"
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The lefties can't help themselves.
I watched Sunday Politics Scotland with Gordon Brewer. He had SNP MSP George Adam in the studio with Conservative MP Luke Graham in the London studio. The discussion was on the possible 1p tax rise amongst other measures in Scotland. About a dozen times GA said a debate was needed, 4 times he called it mature debate. LG in reply to one point said that the SNP need to be honest with the electorate and spell out their proposals. LG replied but not before quipping A Tory MP and honesty, that's a new one on me. Yes very mature from the SNP MSP. As I started with they can't help themselves and seemingly feel the need to belittle/insult their opponents. Daves responses on here follow a similar trend. |
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So that's a no then
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The post has gone but I also read it as you calling him a liar, dave. Nowt wrong with being abusive per se, but denying it is a bit rum.
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dave1357
btw I suspect talkmadder has [i]invented his mother in law's situation, just have a rant about people on benefits.[/i] In answer to your question Dave. where have I called him a liar? |
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Well I do indeed suspect he is lying about his mother in law for the reasons I set out in my 10.28 post. And I may indeed have implied that again in the deleted post, but Talkmadder didn't see it, so it's irrelevant to akabula's "theory" as to why talkmadder didn't respond and in any case once again I just asked first "when did she retire?".
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Don't think that one will stand up in court akabula. It's a gambling forum and you should be able to work out that the odds of his m-i-l has a pension of exactly the amount required to exclude her from pension credit are very high indeed. So it is a very reasonable suspicion to have.
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