no one with any sense or free from liberal and leftist dogma would allow a child to be adopted by two men.

And how can we be sure that the Labour Party and Corbyn have not been financed by Russian money, or infiltrated by Russian sympathisers  and spies and by people who are prepared to put the interests of an evil and totalitarian foreign government before the interests of Britain?
I don't know, it's not as if it has never happened in the past.

I was refereeing to the Soviet Union , try to keep up pineapple.

It's very clear what I am saying, the Labour Party and labour members were financed by the Soviet Union when the soviet were sending thousands of ordinary men and women to their death and torture in the gulag.

Now that is what the Labour Party and its members did in the past, would the same party  , and Corbyn do something similar today ?
I don't know, it's possible I wouldn't trust them not to.

Well you worry about Farage and I will worry about the Labour Party.

That seems to me to be a good arrangement.

I should imagine Alun means, by definition, they are causing terror.

The aim of terrorism is to change the status of how people live,  by fear.
But I submit people of the U.K. -are going about their lives ( personal and business) normally.
Not cowed,beaten or afraid.

More likely hysteria promoted continually by certain MSM and scum like Katie Hopkins.

I agree. The immediate reaction. Is to be terrified ( flight- as opposed to fight). And afterwards , angry that you were made to feel like that, by something out with your control. All natural.

Tell me. Is KH helping the situation, or pouring oil on the flames, just for her own personnel ego ?

Not for her ego facts, she's profiting from it. She was just a failed reality show contestant; now she's a columnist, has thousands of troglodyte followers, has a book coming out next month and is a go to person when a network needs someone to (cough) "tell it like it is".


There's money in them there tweets.

It is important that we have people like Hopkins, she is not afraid to speak .
It would surprise you what people in England think , if you were to ask them and they were brave and honest enough to speak.
Don't listen to the people who want her to be quiet  , don't trust them
They don't deserve to be trusted.

Hopkins , littlejohn , farage all from the same stable of complete idiots and freeloaders

Unlike, Hopkins, Owen Jones doesn't preach hate. Isn't a racist or a fascist.

James O' Brien ( LBC) is absolutely spot on !!


https://www.facebook.com/TheDailyPolitik/videos/1340103326111856/

No apology for your misrepresentation of the facts PP.
You made various claims at what Farage said yet the link you provided didn't back up your comments.
If no apology what about an explanation.

Its a Mad sad world we Live in

And I will admit to being Guilty of Jumping the Gun on these Type of Happenings

Our societies are becoming increasing violent. We have to look at the nature of our society, what does it produce and what is its culture.
In the past great societies managed to produce works of art , and science .

But it is the form of those and the nature of those things that count.
If we look at a simple thing like sport . Now it was in Britain that a previous generation managed to create the great sports such as football and cricket and golf , and many more , that become such an important part of everyone's life. And then this spread across the world .

Of course Britain was so rich in culture it had many other things that people in their thousands loved , music and literature etc.
In the mid to the end of the 20c the most important part of our culture was music , rock music invented in America and quickly spread to Britain.
So that this became such an important and central part of our culture .
These were beautiful things.

These were the things that dominated our culture.
But what do we have now?

Well the greatest change has been one in which the culture is increasingly one of violence in films such as pulp fiction to thousands more , and most dangerous of all the internet.

These are the defining things now of our culture whereas in the past it was sport in the early 20c and then followed and alongside the new form of music from America . These things were very powerful we all were part of them from a young age and as part of our life.

But what is our culture dominated by now ? violence in films and computer games and most dangerously on the internet.
This is something that influences our society and people and is as powerful  and as much a part of our society as sport and music was to previous generations.

easily done casemoney.

Even if we didn't say it we probably thought it which is sad notwithstanding my thoughts on Toyota's!

What the dangerous thing is when people make wild allegations not even based on truth. We are in a lot of trouble. There may well be a lurch to the left and a lurch to the right which polarises society. The merchants of doom spread hate and are on the same side of the coin as ISIS IMHO although they don't go round beheading people they persue a hate agenda.

What is sad is that I have come across a couple of people on here and I will name names like Injera and pxb, whom, I have utmopst repsect for. They are both or rather seem to me to be lovely blokes, generous and polite. I know them from the cricket forum. We have wildly different political opinions. I have absolutely no problem with that and would love to meet with either of them for a drink and hope to one day.

The problem is that whilst we have so much in common there are other people on here who spread their filth. We all seem to be focussed on our differences wheras we should really be uniting on our commonalities. I cannot see for the life of me I have more in common with Karl Marx than either pxb or Injera.

mate it is fun and we generally make good moolah! sometimes big! Ashley there is a good source of knowledge and sharing of information on the forum. It is like playing blackjack and we are all trying to beat the dealer. No politics either!