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By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 11:34
i am thinking westminster manchester london bridge
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 11:36
Well, it wasn't Hindus. Buddhists, Jews, Sikhs, Janes, so my guess is..................................
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 11:36
You are crippen, a vile hate-filled misguided purveyor of half-truths, more hate-filled than anything I wrote,
Yes slicer, Non-Muslims never killed loads of kids in a primary school, or 100s of patients whilst being a doctor, did they?

QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF YOU.... Given that a vast majority of Muslims were born here.....

Would you all stop Muslims having businesses here?
Would you stop other people from doing business with them?
Would you stop them sharing our schools?
Would you take all their passports to stop them travelling and mixing?
Close their bank accounts?

See where this is going?

When you've sorted the Muslims, you can start on the Sikhs, then the Jews, then the Chinese.
Perfect, eh?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Aug 17 11:38
The trouble with STUDY is when he writes his brain isn't connected to his fingers.

Although hang on..
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 11:40
A YouGov survey for the Daily Telegraph,[6] published two weeks after the July 2005 bombings in the London Underground, showed that 88% of British Muslims were opposed to the bombings, while 6% (about 100,000 individuals) fully supported them, and one British Muslim in four expressed some sympathy with the motives of the bombers.[7] A 2007 poll found that one Muslim in four thought the Government had staged the bombings and framed the Muslims convicted.[8] A 2011 study by Pew Research showed that 64% of Muslim Americans thought that there was not much or no support among them for extremism, while 6% thought there was a great deal, and 15% thought there was a fair amount.[9] A 2017 survey showed that most Muslims in many Muslim-majority countries view the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria unfavorably; these views were especially common in Jordan and Lebanon. In Pakistan, 62% of Muslims polled offered no opinion on ISIS. The same survey showed that most Muslims consider violence against nonbelievers to be "rarely or never justified."[10]
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 11:42
How many drunken Friday/Saturday night stabbings and beatings after pubs close are muslim related?
Actually any crime come to that -
They're committed by all types of people.

Moisok you are completely obsessed. It isn't healthy.
A survey from 2007 ffs.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 18 Aug 17 11:45
Studyform,

I oppose all forms of violence.

Are you worried by the 1 in 130 figure?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 11:45

Aug 18, 2017 -- 5:31AM, Slicer wrote:


1% of the indigenous population might be bad, but they don't go around blowing up kids at pop concerts or drive cars at people in shopping areas.


Do 1% of muslims do this then?

By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 11:45
Study- I know I joke a bit on here , but this subject is very serious. I am sorry to say that with the little knowledge I have of you, I am very surprised that you take the position you do. That is all I will say on a personal note. I am not insulting you because I respect your sincere belief. but your children, or their children will se that I am right!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Aug 17 11:46
Yes moisok, most of them do make up the silent majority.

Yet as we've seen from history and has been said many times ''the silent majority are irrelevant.''
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Aug 17 11:50
I am very surprised that you take the position you do.

Nah, it's all personal with STUDY. He's never grown up.

He'll take a contrary view based on who's posting it.
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 11:50
And to answer your question Study, it is a much higher percentage of Muslims than Non Muslims (or Infidels, as we are known to them).
By:
saddo
When: 18 Aug 17 11:53
STUDYFORM    18 Aug 17 11:36 

When you've sorted the Muslims, you can start on the Sikhs, then the Jews, then the Chinese.
Perfect, eh?


Why? What have they done to us, and what ill will do they show us? None as far as I can see.
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 11:54
I respect Study more than that. He has never attacked me personally. I can understand why he gets emotional about these matters.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 11:57
Lots of things worry me. I.T.
You have no solutions to anything. Just more figures and reasons the things you fight for, and anti-muslim things, are justified.

Slicer you could not be more wrong if you tried. (re my kids).
I have to admit, I have been a little surprised by YOUR input over the past few months as well.

crippen, I will always take a contrary view to yours, because you're an idiot.

saddo, It's tribal. How will the collectives survive (like the gangs on here) with no-one to hate?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Aug 17 12:02
crippen, I will always take a contrary view to yours, because you're an idiot.

There you go.
By:
saddo
When: 18 Aug 17 12:03
Islam has become a huge problem to peaceful people studyform, I do not apologise for my dislike of it, or my distrust of those who follow it. Many millions are simply sick of them, I am just one.
By:
The Leopard
When: 18 Aug 17 12:15
*****Can I have a synopsis of the thread....I'm short on time !*****
By:
saddo
When: 18 Aug 17 12:17
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By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 12:18
As a matter of interest, re 'free votes', people coming here don't get to vote until they get citizenship. Which takes years.
Apart from commonwealth countries.
Commonwealth citizens can register and vote even they're on holiday here.
Perhaps we ought to watch out for dodgy Canadians.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 12:27
why is it there are problems only with muslims wherever they are then?  they fight amongst themselves yet they are the religion of peace

are you aware of the meaning of jihad?

the struggle within oneself to be a good muslim,  then to tell others, then to convert, then to Conqueor if all other methods fail.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 18 Aug 17 12:27
STUDYFORM
18 Aug 17 11:57
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Lots of things worry me. I.T.
You have no solutions to anything. Just more figures and reasons the things you fight for, and anti-muslim things, are justified.


I am concerned by 1 in 130 being on a list.

May says we need to have difficult conversations about this.

You say we should not dare mention there is a problem.

How many kids have to be abused or blown up before we can have the difficult conversations?
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 12:29
Study- it's good that we have mutual respect. I will agree to disagree with you and wish you and your family well. Fortunately, I have no kids and so for when it hits the fan I will quote that great US philosopher Alfred E Newman " Whatmeworry!"
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 12:29
according to study  a 2007 survey has no weight.  But won't most of those supporting violence still be around?

Later surveys have shown just as much support for these actions and in some cases as many as 30 percent have some sympathy for jihadists.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 18 Aug 17 12:33
why is it there are problems only with muslims wherever they are then?  they fight amongst themselves yet they are the religion of peace

are you aware of the meaning of jihad?

the struggle within oneself to be a good muslim,  then to tell others, then to convert, then to Conqueor if all other methods fail.



Moisok - tbf, I think you are confusing jihad with jihadism. Similar to the difference between Islam and Islamism.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 12:37
from caliphate central itself

hope this helps

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/beliefs/jihad_1.shtml
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 18 Aug 17 12:46
It specifically says that Jihad is not where you force people to convert and conquer other nations to colonise them!
By:
ufcdan
When: 18 Aug 17 13:24
Can't be ar$ed to read through a 168 posts so sorry if someone has mentioned this. How come the Spanish opened up the street again the day after but our Old Bill kept Bourough market closed for days, three coonts shot dead CoolCoolCool what's to investigate???
By:
wolf3011
When: 18 Aug 17 13:41
Even away from the killings ,a disproportional number of muslims commit sex offences.. this isn't " right wing propaganda " it's fact , released by official crime figures from scotland yard which is something no amount of standing united screeching will address. Skin tone is irrelevant , but what do people expect from a cult of dark age barbarians believing in a book written by a dirty middle aged paedophile having sexual relations with a 6 year old wife Aisha. The good book from the religion of peace states

Verse 9:111 – Muslim's passport to paradise

"Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."

Islam teaches that if Muslims slay or are slain (kill or are killed) in the service of God, i.e. Jihad, they are guaranteed accession to Allah's paradise of depraved sexual perversity. Islam's Paradise is filled with  virgins possessing voluptuous breasts and lustrous eyes. Muslims, blessed with an access to Paradise, will have 72 such virgins to engage in incessant copulation. Furthermore, a Muslim's surest way of getting a passport to Paradise, says Allah, is to get slain while trying to kill the kafirs. The Quran is no more a holy book than Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler are holy books. Indeed, the Quran is worse in that it incites unrestrained murder of infidels.

Criticising Islam isn't racism as Islam isn't a race.. there are many white muslim converts to this vile cult. It begs the question why would anyone be tolerant to people living their lives in line with this repugnant dark age mantra such as listed above. I'm " Islamaphobe " , who the hell wouldn't be of sound mind? People telling us it's a religion of peace need to educate themselves and actually see what the "holy book" contains. There is no place for Islam in any civilised country and if muslims don;t like it , why not fck off and live somewhere else in countries which arrange marriages , don;t allow women to drive like Muslim riddled Saudi Arabia. I want to be able to buy meat in subway without some idiot telling me it offends allah .. why come here if it's so racist and terrible in the first place?
By:
twizzle22
When: 18 Aug 17 13:56
Agree Dan.Same as a collision on our motorways that causes the Highway agency/police to close it for an eternity whereas abroad the whole shebang is done and dusted double quick.Its as if they actually ENJOY the fact they have the power to disrupts folks lives for as long as possible.
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 14:06
Wolf- I keep posting tat telling the truth does not make me an Islamophobe, but some people won't have it!
In addition to the verse you posted- here is a link to show how peaceful the Religion of Peace's Holy Book really is:

ttp://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 18 Aug 17 14:11
Criticising Islam isn't racism as Islam isn't a race.. there are many white muslim converts to this vile cult.

The difference in principal between this and 1930's German rhetoric and news about Jews?

Some of are saying or seeming to say all muslims are enemies.

Come on then. What would you do about this?
What is your solution to your perceived problem?
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Aug 17 14:18
But Study- surely you know that the Jews in Germany were intensely patriotic. They never blew up the population at concerts, or drove horse and carts at innocent people. Surely you realise this. If Hitler hadn't taken against them, he would have had the best scientists in the world at the time on his side! Equating the situation of the Jews in Germany, who did nothing wrong, with the murdering Muslims in Europe today is a non starter!
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 17 14:25
Get over it guys. Even May has come out and condemned it. We've had a minute's silence before the cricket match. Everything has gone to script. Sadly I don't see Eiffel tower lighting up in Spanishflag but that's life.
By:
john92
When: 18 Aug 17 14:52
Finland now.....
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 17 15:03
Repeat the cycle then.

Let's start with the media. How are the BBC and Sky reporting it?
By:
wolf3011
When: 18 Aug 17 15:05

Aug 18, 2017 -- 8:11AM, STUDYFORM wrote:


Criticising Islam isn't racism as Islam isn't a race.. there are many white muslim converts to this vile cult.The difference in principal between this and 1930's German rhetoric and news about Jews? Some of are saying or seeming to say all muslims are enemies.Come on then. What would you do about this?What is your solution to your perceived problem?


It doesn't matter how much you rant about pathetic parallels between the german master race and a group of people following a cult of hatred to fellow man led by a paedophile prophet. It isn't a race and never will be- very few people criticising this disgusting " religion" are racist but unfortunately people like you are too thick to separate the difference between colour of skin and behavioural patterns which is what any religion essentially amounts to. The racist / victim drum is always beaten by individuals like you which fuels the problem of real racism with people sick of hearing your whining attempting to portray justified criticism of a dangerous mindset following this " religion" as racist.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Aug 17 15:19
We can see the problem right here.

STUDYFORM is an perfect example. He's on here fighting the opposite corner to general opinion.
And citing 1930s Germany into the bargain.

People like him are first problem we have to overcome. Until we do we won't make any progress.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 15:29
One of the main problems is the people who side with islam and try to make excuses for it and what the people follow and do.  It is all about promoting the islam whether peaceful or not.
It was formed to fight and defeat enemies. Not a religion at all.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Aug 17 15:30
The last resort of quran enthusiasts is to say you have interpreted wrongly because you do not understand arabic.  This is their get out clause.  Fight doesn't mean fight it means........... blah blah blah.  Because you are a westerner you cannot understand.
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