A 'miltary force'?

Seriously how many of the unite the right or Antifa were armed to the teeth as you suggest?

Are you saying that armed police could not have stopped these people?

Why were the police stood down and the unite the right people forced to walk into the Antifa ranks with not a policeman to protect them?

In the battle of Berkley the police never appeared. The same is the case this time. Why?

Keep going!

Yes WD I do think English or should we say British people who live in Spain should speak Spanish. For me personally if moved abroad the last people I'd want to hang around with is other fellow countrymen. You choose to move to another country to improve your life and embrace that countries culture and traditions.

yes that's interesting, what would that culture be again?

of course there are some things here and there that we don't have, romantic things, old ancient city walls ?
I don't know.

that's natural, that's life.

culture, what is it, certainly some countries have it but how would you describe it in any part of the world.
it`s quite frightening if you look at it in some parts of the world, not Spain of course.
but then again what is different in Spain to Eastbourne in England, or London .
more sun?

No matter WHAT happens - WHOEVER starts it, causes it, or does the most damage.
The same people on here trot out the same old nonsense about:

The BBC
The Liberal Left
The BNP/Nazi party was Left wing and not Right wing
It was the fault of the counter-protesters
The Liberal press
Trump is great and not to blame for ANYTHING bad - They all keep picking on him.

Oh, the irony.

The news was well broken on most media outlets (most of which are owned by Right wing supporters) before it was on the BBC - who don't actually have a monopoly on news reporting and as has been proven many many times, are no more a left-wing organisation than this sodding forum.
There would be no counter-protesters without a protest in the 1st place - was there any need or good reason for a protest or were they a bunch of redneck thugs?
Why carry Nazi flags, for example?

Like the people who never give up trying to spread the word on here, they used the internet to gather like minded-idiots to the first glimmer of a reason to be what they are.
An unreasonable hatred and fear mongering collective.

The only thing missing on this thread is someone blaming Corbyn.

Having watched through about 12 hours of video of this now I see problems on both sides.

The united the right supporters had an element of far right within them. I have seen 3 evil nazi/usa flags in the footage (surrounded by press filming them).

I have counted about 30 to 40 evil communist flags.

In between the altercations between the extreme far right and communists there were just normal people on both sides.

The open carry militia seemed to me to be contolling the situation more than the police. I several bits of footage of them breaking up fights and stopping far right and communist people attacking the medic area where people from both sides were being treated. I did not see them attack communists once. They were a defensive and protective force keeping the peace.

Extremists on both sides need to be allowed to have their right for free speech without the other side attacking them. The police should not stand down and leave far right and communists to fight like they did on the streets of Munich in the 1920s.

like most people I find both communist and nazi ideologies repugnant. Both need to be condemned in the strongest possible way and people being not defensively violent and using chemical weapons need to be arrested and locked up for a very long time.

Surely you agree both Nazi and Communist ideologies are evil?

Maybe they'll get slavery back - After all that was what Lee was fighting for!

Er no. He was fighting for the South's right to rule itself. The Union stated war aims were not about ending slavery. That is why so many pro-slave elements fought for them. The pro-slave elements that fought for the Union did so because they did not want to see the breakup of the USA.

Lee was fighting for independence and the Confederate Army was a defensive force against invading armies. He was recognised as war hero.

Where does the political correctness stop?

If they continue this line of thought they should pull down the White House due to the fact slaves were used to help build it?

Then after that the Colosseum in Rome should go?

And then the Pyramids in Egypt?

This are historical buildings and statues. They are part of the culture.

The Communist ideologies weren't protesting, there were anti-fascists there, you're confusing (deliberately) anti-fascists with communists.

The 'anti-facists' abbreviated as Antifa from wikipedia:

'The first German movement to call itself Antifaschistische Aktion was proclaimed by the German Communist Party (KPD) in their newspaper Rote Fahne in 1932 and held its first rally in Berlin on 10 July 1932, then capital of the Weimar Republic. During the early 1930s amidst rising tensions between Nazis and the communists, Berlin in particular has been the site of regular and often very violent clashes between the two groups. In May 1932, the communist paramilitary organisation Rotfrontkämpferbund had been banned and, following a skirmish between Nazi and communist members in the parliament, the Antifaschistische Aktion was founded to ensure that the communists had still a militant wing to rival the paramilitary organisations of the Nazis.'

Antifa is an anti-facist communist movement. That is why when you look at the video there are so many communist flags.

Have you watched videos of Antifa in action?

trump condemned them all and this morning I saw a right wing nazi type trying to speak when the nice protesters attacked him

all on sky early this morning

of course these nazis are repugnant but the protesters against them seem to be just as bad

sorry I don't fit in with the propganda and liberal agenda

I neither support Nazis or Antifa.

These are the elements on both sides that cause the problems.

The majority of people in the middle are neither Nazi or Communist.

Can I ask what an evil flag is?

I asked that already PorP

If they continue this line of thought they should pull down the White House due to the fact slaves were used to help build it?

Next you'll be saying they should not build the wall because the only way to build it would be with illegal mexican cheap labour!

How many of those carrying Isis flags in a central London park . Photographed and with the mass killer and bomber and anti British terrorist who murdered people in London and Manchester and elsewhere .
How many of those who carried those flags have been arrested and sent to jail and deported ?
I don't know, dled studyform  know,
Until he does know I suggest he stops being so outraged by what is happening in the Smerican states.

yeah studyform,

start counting the flags!

I will shoot em!