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Newcastle - time for politicans to admit the problem?
Newcastle - time for politicans to admit the problem?
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How I hate these prissy sanctimonious jobsworths at the NSPCC criticising police tactics on this case. Without the informant the girls would still be in danger and the abuse continuing.
Where were they at Rotherham and all the other cases which have come to light? |
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There is only (was) one Jimmy Saville, one Jimmy Saville...................not 19 of the coonts !
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A massive diversion tactic being used in this case by the establishment and the media.
At least the BBC has the photos up but never mentions anything about religion or culture in any of the articles. |
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/newcastle-sex-ring-child-abuse-racist-rotherham-mp-sarah-champion-labour-asian-gang-community-a7885486.html Newcastle sex ring: People care more about being called racist than preventing child abuse, says Rotherham's Labour MP Speaking on the BBC’s Radio 4 Today programme, Ms Champion said there was a need to 'acknowledge' that in all of the towns with similar cases 'the majority of the perpetrators have been British Pakistani' People are more afraid to be called a racist than they are to be wrong about child sexual abuse, a Labour MP has claimed after 18 people were found guilty of involvement in a grooming network. Sarah Champion's remarks came after the individuals – predominately from Asian backgrounds - were convicted of or admitted offences in a series of trials related to child sexual exploitation in Newcastle. Ms Champion, the Labour MP for Rotherham and shadow minister for women and equalities, also urged the Government to commission research into the crimes and said she “hadn’t slept” over criticism she could face over her comments. Speaking on the BBC’s Radio 4 Today programme, Ms Champion said there was a need to “acknowledge” that in all of the towns where similar cases have occurred “the majority of the perpetrators have been British Pakistani”. “On the news last night there was a picture of 18 men convicted and there was no comment that 17 of those were clearly Asian men. It just pains me that this is going on time and time and time again and the Government aren’t researching what is going on. “We have got now, hundreds of Pakistani men who have been convicted of this crime, why are we not commissioning research to see what is going on and how we need to change what is going on." Asked whether she herself would be attacked for her comments, Ms Champion replied: “Absolutely. The far-right will attack me for not doing enough and the floppy left will have a go at me for being a racist. But this isn’t racist, this is child protection. We need to be grown up about it and deal with it. “There are many types of child abuse. The particular gang related one - the prosecutions and convictions we get are predominately Pakistani men and therefore we have to address this. “If it was people from a particular town that were doing this crime across the country, if it was people from a motorbike gang doing this, we would recognise that as an indicator and deal with it. But we’re just not dealing it. |
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Its been going on for over 30 years in Keighley West Yorks, when local MP Anne Cryer brought it up in the 80/90s she was told to stop being racist.
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Looked at the Guardian and BBC websites. Both of them are, as you'd predict, are focusing on the fact they paid an informer rather than fact once again, a gang of such men has done such a thing. If they hadn't paid him, would they have got the gang? These left wing fools really turn my stomach, they really do, as expected they are more annoyed that the police caught the guys rather than the actual disgusting crime itself and who did it, they certainly don't want to touch too much on THAT area, do they. I wonder how many other cases out there exist that aren't caught yet?
Honestly, can we not just stick these BBC/Guardian types on a one way flight to somewhere full of "diversity" for a few years, they'd like that so it's a win/win? It would be a huge boost to the UK. |
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I was thinking about that outrageous case the other day where they let this guy carrying a device get on a plane.
Is it unreasonable to think that the reason he didn't lift the guy or put him on a watch list was that he'd be scared he'd get accused by pillocks of "racial profiling", reprimanded, and sent on a diversity awareness course? All common sense would indicate he shouldn't have just let him walk with no follow up. |
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I'm fuming.
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TBF the BBC 1pm news, unlike their website, and quite surprisingly, did go into the more serious issue here a bit. Probably just because a Labour MP (again surprisngly for a Labour MP, probably not a Corbynite), has brought it up. Just look at that report a couple weeks ago where village elders sat down, gave it careful consideration, then ordered that a innocent girl be r**ed!!!! Just totally sickening and unbelievable.... To shout down that there might be such issues with people from cultures where the most highly respected people in the community would be so evil is total denial, we can all see that. But we somehow got there..
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the problem is there was a large number they have not been able to prosecute
the problem is huge you have to remember councillors have their own interests as do many politicians VOTES VOTES VOTES in 25 constituencies they have over a 20 percent representation and in some, much more VOTES VOTES VOTES If someone read out the guardian page to you, you would have no idea they were predominantly muslim and asian the story has gone already from the front page!!! they are off on to slavery now so it can drag everyone in - how clever of them pure manipulation |
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It's only taken about fifteen years but the snowflake crew seem willing to discuss 'Muslim' rape gangs today. Why must they be dragged kicking and screaming towards the reality of their multicultural experiment.
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Nothing is going to change. Too many vested interests. The 'liberals' hold the intellectual high ground, the philosophy and most importantly, the law on their side. Universities would be the key for me and that will take 50 years to change round for starters.
This is where nearly all your politicoes civil servants etc etc etc come from. |
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Sarah Champion has gone way up in my estimations.
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Of course if anyone like Boris, Gove, Farage etc today said the exact same thing as that Labour woman had said, would the media and social media mob have got stuck into them?
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C4 started tonight with a lengthy piece on hate crime (white on Muslim variety), they haven't even let the dust settle on the latest outrage.
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Most in authority are still avoiding the deep held beliefs towards women by certain people.
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They think 5,000 Muslim girls will be mutilated this year, they do not expect to prosecute any parents.
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moisok , you are largely right but BIG change is on the way. 50 years talk is way out.
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wish I shared your view howard
I see almost no change in attitudes the 'liberal' mind has a choke hold on this it is all racism to raise any issue and against the law as far as criticism of one particular so called religion |
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people are being prosecuted in germany for raising the issues
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In C4 news eyes a white guy getting wasted (surely!), stripping naked and singing ignorant songs is worse than this systematic organised Newcastle thing.
We all worked out what C4 news game was a while ago? It's a total joke. Every time I switch it on it's wringing its hands over some leftie obsession to do with diversity or gender issues etc. |
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Just waiting on them siding with North Korea in the stand off with Trump, you wouldn't put it past them.
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My 50 year approximation is based on how long you would have to wait for the turn round in lecturers etc at university where so much thoughtspeak and philosophy originates from. Not all of course but just think who goes through these systems.
they would all have to retire etc |
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Yeah C4 a cracker. Wait until the cashpoints are not working. Likely to be this year.
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Just switched over to c4 news again and it's on about climate change, also so they can have another go at Trump, it ticks two C4 news boxes.
Have they even covered the newcastle thing or the small matter of sabre rattling threating a nuclear war? |
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If I was A Hindu,Sikh,Japanese etc I would be outraged to be lumped in with these inadequate lowlife cowardly scum.
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That's a harsh way to talk about Snow, Frei and Newman, but I have to agree
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The really big question is how dumb are people ? Are we heading for 'Metropolis' or when fiat turns to toilet paper and digital wealth / pensions are bailed-in will there be a reaction. I think there will be trouble on the streets. Then who will the army protect ? All coming soon a big war makes it immediate.
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the old NIMBY effect for most - as long as they are not touched by it
it doesn't exist |
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here is a typical sidestep obfuscation from the guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/10/victims-child-abuse-gangs-race-religion just like the concentration on the paid informer was |
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another one deeply in denial
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/newcastle-sex-abuse-scandal-grooming-racism-young-girls-rape-liberal-offence-a7886821.html |
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It's just awful judgement from the UK liberal media.
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Denial is what they're all about. It's a predetermined tactic. Nothing will derail them from their multi cultural, globalised human soup where the stronger cultures get wiped out.
As far as the MSM are concerned everything's going to plan. |
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Where are the fathers? They are none of these incidents (at least on mass) in my city and we have a high Muslim population, they wouldn't dare.
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Its a horrible situation.
The problem is that non working class areas are not touched by this. Labour have already moved away from working class voters going for blocks and the liberal middle classes. That is their alliance. Can decent people who are small 'c' conservatives and the working classes unite in the same way? If this does not happened things will go from bad to worse. But most conservatives are scared of marching with Tommy Robinson due to some elements that follow him. Also if you are seen to agree with him in any way you will be called racist and could lose your job. It is censorship on a massive scale - mostly self-censorship due to fear. |
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Newsnight now
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Could be an interesting debate now on Newsnight BBC2.
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Well said Dr Taj.
The media must stop using the word Asian, when it's always Muslims of various countries. |
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"The far right have never demonstrated against Jimmy Saville" used as an excuse
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