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GoOnThen
25 Jul 17 23:22
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By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 17 23:49
I'll be dead by then, they need to ban the sales of diesels now.
Unfortunately, too much money and jobs tied up in the manufacture of them.
Another fine mess courtesy of Brown and Blair. Those two have a lot to answer for.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 17 00:20
I'll be with Jesus ruling from Jerusalem by then.
In my new glorified body. With the whole body of Christ.
By all means draw up more plans.........................

2017 to 2024 half trib.

then Kingdom comes.
By:
lybertyne
When: 26 Jul 17 01:25
We'll all have jet-packs by then shirley.
By:
pxb
When: 26 Jul 17 03:07
Fusion powered jet packs.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 17 08:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI8scHUxgoc

I remember watching many political shows on tv like weekend world, in the seventies.
The 'scientists' told us oil would be gone within thirty years. They had a frenzy about it. I looked up the what they say now.. one group on google says 55 more years. and BP says we have near inexhaustible supplies. The clip above shows President Carter sweating over what's left in 1977. He wanted to go back to burning shagloads of COAL.
So when you hear the modern opinion think... they are talkin shyte. Oh in the seventies they were talking about the second ice age too? But we are so much smarter now. Our brains have expanded so much in thirty years.
By:
Crisp77
When: 26 Jul 17 12:25
Sad scenes at the petrol station this morning. People were filling up.
By:
DStyle
When: 26 Jul 17 13:01
it's absurd and shows how clueless our government is.

I'll be amazed if car manufacturers are still making diesel or petrol driven car by 2030.

I'll be even more amazed if joe public are even buying new cars by 2040.

Everyone will be using computer controlled electric vehicles in under ten years.
By:
DStyle
When: 26 Jul 17 13:02
.. on a service on demand basis, i.e. they won't own them.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Jul 17 13:05
They need to get on with increasing generating capacity to meet the future increased demand.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 26 Jul 17 13:08
I can only imagine the huge spike in accidents on the roads with electric cars especially amongst the elderly, you can't hear the cars coming
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 17 13:10
So we won't be able to buy new petrol or diesel cars after 2040.
Then after 2050 they won't be allowed on the roads at all.

I suppose if you buy one just before 2040 the supply of fuel will dwindle dramatically towards 2050. Then stop altogether afterwards.
By:
DStyle
When: 26 Jul 17 13:12
buying a diesel car in 2039 will look pretty much the same as someone buying a horse and trap today.
By:
saddo
When: 26 Jul 17 14:14
They'll put a lollipop stick in the wheels, scandy.
By:
alun2005
When: 26 Jul 17 14:29
Is this the end of the 'Classic Car' market, if you won't be able to drive them anywhere?
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 26 Jul 17 14:41
oil producing countries wont be hay, saudis will be skint
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 26 Jul 17 14:48
Please correct me but do our government not get fortunes in taxation from petrol and diesel, and how do they recoup that ?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 26 Jul 17 15:05
why should motorists fund everyone else ?

its not logical ,road tax/road fund also goes in the pot ,everything must change ,gov wages need looked at as well,attracts the wrong sorts ,time to derail the bisto express imo
By:
breadnbutter
When: 26 Jul 17 15:09
rt is co2 based so  in trouble thar too....thems the rools Laugh
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Jul 17 16:24
Will be a godsend to the Saudis (and the Russians, and the Qataris and Iranians). Just as cheap US oil makes their petroleum production uneconomical, we agree to open up a huge new market for their natural gas to generate all that extra electricity.

In reality, of course, we'll be importing just as much oil, only now we'll be using it to fire up all the emergency diesel generators needed to avoid chronic blackouts.
By:
Just Checking
When: 26 Jul 17 20:36
So you live in a flat or a terraced house and can't park outside on your own tarmac. What do you do?
You run a cable out your window and across the pavement? Can't wait to see the personal injury claims for people tripping over cables!

So lets say they fill the streets with chargers - how safe are they?

You are in a (perhaps not so nice) terraced street somewhere and come home from work and park 200m away and stick it on charge, assuming you can find a slot, and try to get some kip. How easy is it for the local chavs to mess with the cable? Is it it a simple unplug and walk away giggling?
THAT will be fun and games for bored teenagers. A new age of stress as people can't relax when their car is charging may soon be upon us.

What happens if you get low on juice in the middle of nowhere? Currently anyone can give you a top up with a can. Currently apparently range is just 40 to 200 miles unless you pay top dollar.

Road tax is currently exempt isn't it for emissions free vehicles, that'll have to change or virtually nobody will pay road tax.

The final nail in the coffin is John Snowflake on C4 news seemed to like it, definitely means it's a stupid idea!
By:
FredRescue
When: 26 Jul 17 20:57
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Is this the end of the 'Classic Car' market, if you won't be able to drive them anywhere?


Good point better sell my collection soon Scared
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 17 22:14
what is you get dirt in the petrol tank and it breaks down.

what if you put diesel in the tank by accident?

what if the spark plugs don't fire.

IS PETROL so reliable?
By:
kincsem
When: 26 Jul 17 22:15
I saw a BMW 520 duel-fuel car that has a 40 kilometer range on electric power.
Electric cars won't take over until they can do what petrol and diesel cars do.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jul 17 22:18
It takes thirty minutes to charge up at the moment. They should improve on that.

I can still see queues everywhere waiting to charge up.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 17 23:10
Where's the faith in Science?

I thought within a few years they were solving the power equation and
getting Fusion to work - unlimited power ??

enough energy in one lump of coal to power a city for days ?

Or

are we kidding ourselves? reliant on coal and oil ?
By:
The Leopard
When: 26 Jul 17 23:28
Haven't read thread but diesel engines should be banned from 2025

2040......do they think we are thick.....rediculous !
By:
The Leopard
When: 26 Jul 17 23:31
All black cabs should be off road when older than 10 years

I have seen P reg black cabs.....something is going on
By:
The Leopard
When: 26 Jul 17 23:32
Same rule for Private Hire Drivers
By:
Des Pond
When: 27 Jul 17 01:10
Apparently the cars will be charged wirelessly, as you drive by "pads" or something on the road. Mind you, this idea was announced by Michael Gove and, given his track record, he won't have thought it through, or even discussed it with any of his colleagues. And it will be kicked into the long grass within weeks, if not days.
By:
chrisblues
When: 27 Jul 17 01:41
by 2040 no one  will be driving    it   self drives by typing in  postcode

it going to be like  living   room  with  tv  and   computer     and    relax  and    have a few      beers
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 27 Jul 17 03:17
by 2040 - you'll be on the moon again.
repeating the same shyte.

nothing gets done for the people if it costs.

we are going back in time... no NHS, no benefits,no antibiotics.
By:
ufcdan
When: 27 Jul 17 08:42
It'll be kicked into the long grass by future governments, by that time technology will of moved on and a lot of people will buy an electric car by choice. And if this little speck of a country is going to stop using petrol and diesel is the rest of the world going to stop ? Also I remember hearing that China holds about 90% of the minerals needed to make batteries. So more wealth will go to an already emboldened China Mischief
By:
bix
When: 27 Jul 17 09:07
No mention of lorries and commercial vehicles all being diesel.
By:
ufcdan
When: 27 Jul 17 09:09
As I said bix, it ain't going to happen Mischief
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 27 Jul 17 09:38
China doesn't hold 90% of the rare earth metals needed for electric motors (and wind turbines and solar panels). They're distributed all over the planet.

It's just that China is a communist country, so has no pollution controls, which means they're cheaper to mine there than anywhere else. Hence 90% of them get purchased from there.

It's just stupidity on the part of the Chinese. Apart from poisoning themselves and their land, they're simply extracting the stuff to sell cheaply now, and when they've extracted the lot, the US will re-open the mines they've had to close and sell the products expensively to China.
By:
The Leopard
When: 27 Jul 17 09:55
The chinese are grabbing all the mineral rights in Africa so will be destroying the environment there for the next 20 years.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 27 Jul 17 19:58
already have an electric supply network ,just need the hook up points ,these should be counter sunk in the road and vehicle could be parked on top to cover connector or retractable lead from above ,use some imagination ffs
vehicle will be in touch with owner via phone tech  warning of any issues through charging
offgrid will be possible via solar/wind/wave ect
can see park and ride carparks charging vehicles ,same as supermarket car parks ,in fact anyone could be a supplier ,in time the charging will be dc and wont involve a lead .
there will need to be emergency charging points but the electricity  network is in place ,its no big deal
trucks will go bio fuel although already most have very sophisticated systems to reduce pollution ,some hybrid tech on  buses ect works well with electric doing the low gear work .
agree old taxis being allowed in greenways/bus lanes was a disgrace,taxis should be all electric ,can charge on rank

the chinese are not doing anything others have not already done  ,the grabbing is actually buying imo
the elements needed are spread all over,south america has more than its fair share .

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By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Jul 17 20:08
You could have induction charging which would require no physical connection.
The main problem, apart from generating capacity is transmission energy loss. Also I suspect most of the straightforward gains in battery technology have already been won. Battery capacity and weight per kwh are crucial.
By:
Just Checking
When: 27 Jul 17 21:43
Induction charging? And there will be no downsides electrically or medically with littering the country with a high density of very high power electromagnetic wave sources? Just look at how people react to the very low power waves out of mobile phones or even smartmeters!

Once the zombie apocalypse happens all the electric drivers will be scrooed. I'll be totally Mad Maxing it up in a pimped out 1998 nissan micra.
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