We want to share an important update with our Betfair Community users.
Over the coming months, the Betfair Community platform will be winding down. The final active day for the platform will be December 21st. From December 22nd, users will no longer be able to access the platform.
Your discussions, insights, engagement, and, most importantly, feedback have helped shape the platform and guided innovation. Your feedback continues to be important to us, and we will continue to listen via our dedicated feedback channels, as well as through product testing and innovations.
To share your feedback and experience, visit: https://support.betfair.com/app/home
Chit Chat
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
http://www.newsweek.com/isis-members-europe-cant-get-jobs-when-they-return-home-629593
The first thing an employer will ask about a resume is any gaps between jobs. But they probably wouldn't suspect that an applicant for a certain role who seems to have been unemployed for a few years was busy fighting for the Islamic State militant group (ISIS).
Jihadis returning to their home countries in Europe are now finding out the hard way, and many cannot get a job as they try to reintegrate into western society.
Swedish daily newspaper Expressen interviewed former jihadis about life after ISIS and they discussed the challenges of finding work. As many as 150 have returned to the Scandinavian country to try and rebuild their lives.
“I just want to forget everything,” Walad Yousef, a 27-year-old returning fighter, told the newspaper. “I apply for a lot of jobs, but I can’t get any because my pictures are out there.”
Yousef had posted images of himself in Syria on Facebook, posing at a training camp with a Kalashnikov, and encouraging friends to join him. He returned to Sweden and said he had only gone to Syria to help civilians in the eastern city of Raqqa, where ISIS has beheaded several western hostages.
Another returning member said that life under ISIS was "not what I thought" while others said they had only traveled to help civilians affected by the Syrian war.
Employers fear that returning fighters may commit attacks or help others to commit attacks and do not wish to be associated with them, said another returnee who has changed his name to Yousef.
"You in the media have scared them. I do not know why they are afraid," said a jihadi from the southern city of Malmo of the fears that employees and civilians had of returning foreign fighters.
Another refused to speak to Expressen and give his real identity as he said he has "enough problems" finding employment in the country.
Others said they had no idea why their names were on leaked ISIS records. “That’s very strange. Anyone can say they’re me,” said an unnamed returnee. “I mean, it’s war. Maybe someone recommended me. I don't know."
Many live at home with their relatives or their friends as they cannot afford accommodation after returning and many have changed their names.
One of the jihadis named in the Expressen investigation is Bherlin Dequilla Gildo, a 39-year-old from Malmo, a jihadi who posed with the corpse of a Syrian regime soldier. A man answered at his address but said no one was there with that name. But he is back in Sweden, the newspaper says. One of Gildo's associates who fought alongside him said "he can do anything. Even I am afraid of him."
Sweden is one the best countries for a foreign fighter to return if they want to reintegrate. It is trialling a rehabilitation programme that gives Swedish extremists housing, employment, education and financial support.
Anna Sjöstrand, the municipal coordinator against violent extremism in the city of Lund, said in October 2016 that it is much cheaper to reintegrate someone than to abandon them.
It is unclear if the trial will be rolled out nationwide or how former jihadis are to be reintegrated into the job market when they face such an obvious stigma after being ISIS members.
The country suffered only its second radical Islamist attack in April when an Uzbek national plowed a truck into civilians on a busy shopping street in central Stockholm. The attack left five people dead. Authorities arrested the driver and said he had sympathies with ISIS. ISIS did not claim the attack, but it generally does not take responsibility for attackers who are captured alive.
Returning fighters are a problem across the West—security services in Europe and the U.S. are concerned that their nationals will return home to carry out attacks as ISIS's caliphate continues to crumble in Iraq and Syria.
More than half of Britain's 800 foreign fighters have returned home. For the U.S., only a few have returned home with a much lower travel rate to Syria and Iraq. Former FBI Director James Comey said in 2016 that just 250 Americans had attempted to go or have gone to Syria. Almost 7,000 have traveled to Iraq and Syria as a whole from the West.
The first thing an employer will ask about a resume is any gaps between jobs. But they probably wouldn't suspect that an applicant for a certain role who seems to have been unemployed for a few years was busy fighting for the Islamic State militant group (ISIS).
Jihadis returning to their home countries in Europe are now finding out the hard way, and many cannot get a job as they try to reintegrate into western society.
Swedish daily newspaper Expressen interviewed former jihadis about life after ISIS and they discussed the challenges of finding work. As many as 150 have returned to the Scandinavian country to try and rebuild their lives.
“I just want to forget everything,” Walad Yousef, a 27-year-old returning fighter, told the newspaper. “I apply for a lot of jobs, but I can’t get any because my pictures are out there.”
Yousef had posted images of himself in Syria on Facebook, posing at a training camp with a Kalashnikov, and encouraging friends to join him. He returned to Sweden and said he had only gone to Syria to help civilians in the eastern city of Raqqa, where ISIS has beheaded several western hostages.
Another returning member said that life under ISIS was "not what I thought" while others said they had only traveled to help civilians affected by the Syrian war.
Employers fear that returning fighters may commit attacks or help others to commit attacks and do not wish to be associated with them, said another returnee who has changed his name to Yousef.
"You in the media have scared them. I do not know why they are afraid," said a jihadi from the southern city of Malmo of the fears that employees and civilians had of returning foreign fighters.
Another refused to speak to Expressen and give his real identity as he said he has "enough problems" finding employment in the country.
Others said they had no idea why their names were on leaked ISIS records. “That’s very strange. Anyone can say they’re me,” said an unnamed returnee. “I mean, it’s war. Maybe someone recommended me. I don't know."
Many live at home with their relatives or their friends as they cannot afford accommodation after returning and many have changed their names.
One of the jihadis named in the Expressen investigation is Bherlin Dequilla Gildo, a 39-year-old from Malmo, a jihadi who posed with the corpse of a Syrian regime soldier. A man answered at his address but said no one was there with that name. But he is back in Sweden, the newspaper says. One of Gildo's associates who fought alongside him said "he can do anything. Even I am afraid of him."
Sweden is one the best countries for a foreign fighter to return if they want to reintegrate. It is trialling a rehabilitation programme that gives Swedish extremists housing, employment, education and financial support.
Anna Sjöstrand, the municipal coordinator against violent extremism in the city of Lund, said in October 2016 that it is much cheaper to reintegrate someone than to abandon them.It is unclear if the trial will be rolled out nationwide or how former jihadis are to be reintegrated into the job market when they face such an obvious stigma after being ISIS members.
The country suffered only its second radical Islamist attack in April when an Uzbek national plowed a truck into civilians on a busy shopping street in central Stockholm. The attack left five people dead. Authorities arrested the driver and said he had sympathies with ISIS. ISIS did not claim the attack, but it generally does not take responsibility for attackers who are captured alive.
Returning fighters are a problem across the West—security services in Europe and the U.S. are concerned that their nationals will return home to carry out attacks as ISIS's caliphate continues to crumble in Iraq and Syria.
More than half of Britain's 800 foreign fighters have returned home. For the U.S., only a few have returned home with a much lower travel rate to Syria and Iraq. Former FBI Director James Comey said in 2016 that just 250 Americans had attempted to go or have gone to Syria. Almost 7,000 have traveled to Iraq and Syria as a whole from the West.
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 83
|
By:
Must be the same for Ibiza holiday reps
|
|
By:
It won`t stop them breeding.
|
|
By:
I thought this was a joke,them looking for WORK I mean.....
 |
|
By:
|
|
By:
It is a problem.
I think European countries, ourselves included, should give returnees a resettlement grant to help them back on their feet. They'll need a house, car, soft furnishings and enough left to tide them over while they look for work. About a million each should do it. I think I might email the shadow Home Secretary with this suggestion. |
|
By:
What is the point in arming the military when this sort of nonsense goes on .
|
|
By:
They will Find some old Munta to bang a Kid or 2 out with ,as Seen with the london bridge Morrocan and the Old paddy Boiler he was with ,The Munta and the Child get Housed The Returning Member Moves in Job done
 |
|
By:
"You in the media have scared them. I do not know why they are afraid," said a jihadi from the southern city of Malmo of the fears that employees and civilians had of returning foreign fighters.
How are these Silly Cxnts let Back in to the Country ??? Its beyond Belief tbh .. |
|
By:
It begs the question,if they had still been winning would they have returned home,or would they be still out KILLING the unbelievers .
|
|
By:
|
|
By:
ah no, they are not fighting amongst themselves , although they are very capable of doing that as well.
They are fighting and murdering and oppressing people with different beliefs and from differing sects and different religions and no religion to themselves . That is the problem right there. |
|
By:
Sweden is a massive holiday camp for them - they can get all the housing, benefits, hand outs, and free access to all the infidel women they want.
|
|
By:
If they wish to do so, and do not follow our good advice we are powerless to stop their misery , their weakness, and death.
|
|
By:
The important thing is not to let them into any European country, until they are prepared to do as they are told.
They don't have to of course, we will not be in the least offended . |
|
By:
|
|
By:
Thanks detraveller, I can't remember inviting anyone in , it's ok I try not to pay tax also so perhaps it's someone else your thinking off , maybe yourself ?
|
|
By:
Just as an aside , why anyone living in Britain or any European country should think it is s good idea to pay tax is beyond me.
|
|
By:
Taxation is becoming a much greater force for evil than good .
|
|
By:
It is your tax money that is allowing these murderers to return to Europe.
|
|
By:
It is your duty to pay as little tax as possible, starve the European governments of money.
Keep it in your own pocket , get busy making yourself invisible . |
|
By:
Do you know I have so much money I don't know what to do with all the money.
|
|
By:
of course i know.
|
|
By:
Most of these chaps will probably claim post traumatic stress and thus qualify for disability.
|
|
By:
Dan Spot on , and ride a Few Pigs for the Housing Extras .
|
|
By:
How are these Silly Cxnts let Back in to the Country ??? Its beyond Belief tbh
Because you don't derail the plan of luring 80-90 % of the middle east men of fighting age over to Europe so the west can take over by letting them go back over there and kill our soldiers.. |
|
By:
Job creation - what ever could go wrong?
|
|
By:
If only we had the likes of gilbzy in WW2, what would Eizenhower or Alexander have made of such a cunning plan?
I don't know . |
|
By:
casemoney
They will Find some old Munta to bang a Kid or 2 out with ,as Seen with the london bridge Morrocan and the Old paddy Boiler he was with ,The Munta and the Child get Housed The Returning Member Moves in Job done Redouane was refused asylum in 2009 but married London-born Charisse O’Leary in Dublin |
|
By:
On the organ register there should be a section saying donate all my organs as long it does not go to a Retard State fighter or any of their family.
Only in the UK could people argue that these people have the same right to organ transplants as charity workers and food bank volunteers. |
|
By:
They are British .
|
|
By:
I am glad I no longer consider myself British .
I would wish it on no one to be British. |
|
By:
I am to put it frankly Chinese.
|
|
By:
Is it possible to be more helpless than someone British, seeing their country changed and become more foreign to him than Africa with all its deserts ? not very easily.
|
|
By:
I feel how little it concerns me, everything that is called England .
|
|
By:
If possible, legally of course, pay no tax or as little as possible.
|
|
By:
That is the very best thing that anyone can do.
|
|
By:
It is immoral and illegal for any government to claim tax and at the same time have open borders
who could deny that ? |
|
By:
It's theft , nothing less.
|
|
By:
So I only do just what I find I cannot avoid doing, that is what I do with tax and work, I only pretend to work industrially.
can the thought of losing my job inspire fear in me ? It seems it cannot . |